Political Protests Are Now Happening in Videogames (forbes.com) 184
Business Insider reports that some players are adapting their avatars in the game world of Animal Crossing: New Horizons to show their support for the Black Lives Matter movement in the real world:
In "Animal Crossing: New Horizons," players are creating customized signs and clothing for their game characters that say "BLM" and depict symbols of "No justice, no peace...." Anyone with access to a Nintendo Online account can host an online protest in the game; one such virtual protest was held on June 7.
As there's a limit of only eight players allowed to be on another player's island at a time, interested players were directed to a site which put folks in line to gain access. When the player's turn came, they were given a special code needed to enter the island. The protest host made customized signs, pillows, and memorial photos, and carved out a special path and area on their island to hold the sit-in protest. Players were encouraged to bring in-game currency (also known as bells) to the island, which would be converted into a charity donation by the host in the name of the player who contributed. This protest raised money for six different charities. including the NAACP, the National Bail Fund Network, and the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Meanwhile, Forbes reports: Roblox, a popular game among children and early teens that announced 100 million active players last year, has become a small-scale battleground in the upcoming U.S. presidential elections. The BBC is reporting that hackers are taking over accounts to spread pro-Trump propaganda, dressing them up in red hats like Trump supporters and putting pro-Trump messages in profiles...
There are ton of posts on social media from players who say that their accounts have been hacked, and Gamespot notes that since Roblox accounts are indexed by Google, it's easy to see a ton of accounts featuring the same message in the "about field": Ask your parents to vote for Trump this year!#Maga2020. A search on Google yields about 1,800 results... They also appear to be spamming friend requests and friend lists to send out pro-trump messages far beyond the single hacked account.
As there's a limit of only eight players allowed to be on another player's island at a time, interested players were directed to a site which put folks in line to gain access. When the player's turn came, they were given a special code needed to enter the island. The protest host made customized signs, pillows, and memorial photos, and carved out a special path and area on their island to hold the sit-in protest. Players were encouraged to bring in-game currency (also known as bells) to the island, which would be converted into a charity donation by the host in the name of the player who contributed. This protest raised money for six different charities. including the NAACP, the National Bail Fund Network, and the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Meanwhile, Forbes reports: Roblox, a popular game among children and early teens that announced 100 million active players last year, has become a small-scale battleground in the upcoming U.S. presidential elections. The BBC is reporting that hackers are taking over accounts to spread pro-Trump propaganda, dressing them up in red hats like Trump supporters and putting pro-Trump messages in profiles...
There are ton of posts on social media from players who say that their accounts have been hacked, and Gamespot notes that since Roblox accounts are indexed by Google, it's easy to see a ton of accounts featuring the same message in the "about field": Ask your parents to vote for Trump this year!#Maga2020. A search on Google yields about 1,800 results... They also appear to be spamming friend requests and friend lists to send out pro-trump messages far beyond the single hacked account.
It's Called Ignore (Score:4, Insightful)
Every game has the feature buried some where in it. The lie it is something new, though, complete and utter bullshit.
Religion and political trolling have been around in games for years, probably decades. Annoying idiots are always popping up, select there name, choose chat and set ignore, just like that gone, poof, who cares. The symbology will be mocked and those pushing it will be ignored, screaming into the win, the message ignored, usually after a solid round of trolling, twisting and attacking the message they are pushing.
It does not work, not even a little, people are just annoyed by it and like to tease the fuck out of the people pushing this bullshit before setting them to ignore. They play games to escape reality, trying to push reality down their throats, especially a bullshit reality, does not work. Reality is black lives matter has simply become too annoying to listen to and unless they smarten up their act, they can go fuck themselves the racist arseholes.
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Every game has the feature buried some where in it. The lie it is something new, though, complete and utter bullshit.
I'm confused. Why would you use an ignore feature if you're attending a limited protest you specifically need to invite yourself to and queue to get in? Also how does the "ignore" button change the in game art worn by other players?
Are you just talking without knowing what is going on or what is being talked about?
Re:It's Called Ignore (Score:5, Insightful)
The bigger question is what is the point of a "protest" when the only people who see it are the like minded whiners?
It's like BLM renting a conference room and shouting "black lives matter" at each other.
Re: It's Called Ignore (Score:2)
We could make some virtual statues they can tear down.
I think the expression you were searching for is
Preaching to the Converted
Or
Preaching to the Choir
Depending on where you grew up. But you are talking about a generation of snowflakes that needed their own safe spaces with puppy petting stations because final exams are stressful. So it makes sense they would online protest among their converted. This is why cancel culture exists in the first place. If you disagree it hurts their fragile feelings and you m
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Easy there snowflake. You're the one melting because people are holding a virtual protest in a video game that only affects the people who actively choose to participate.
Relax. People will do things you don't like. That includes raising money for things you hate, like helping others. I suggest you get over it.
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Zooom...that was the point whizzing passed your wittle bitty head. Let me spell it out for you...to have a PROTEST you have to have someone to protest to BESIDES the protesters. This piece of dumbshittery would be like the Black Panthers setting up a Black Panther only campsite 100 miles from the nearest non Panther, screaming "Black Power!" at each other for a day then calling it a "protest"
Yet here you are talking about it. Ha ha.
What was your point again?
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reading doesn't come naturally for you, does it? If you had actually _read_ what I wrote, in response to what sycodon wrote, you would understand why there is no need to give an analogy. Use those context clues your teachers tried to get you to use. Surely to god you are familiar with the expression Preaching to the Converted, and what it means, right? I mean you aren't like 12 and on your dads computer right? Preaching to the Converted is an exercise in mental masturbation. Its easy because you don't have
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Cancel culture is such a bizarre term, but then Trump is such a bizarre president that it makes sense he'd use it. The original "cancel" here is when the Daughters of the Confederacy put up the confederate memorials and statues in the first place, they intentionally tried to cancel out the idea that the south was in the wrong over the causes of the war and replace it with the lie that the south was heroic and noble and was only trying to protect their heritage and way of life.
So, if we're cancelling out th
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I visited a friend in hospice care, and one volunteer brought in his golden retriever to go around to all the hospice beds to cheer people up. Someone else had brought a talking parrot. Not bad. When my time comes it'll probably be a spitting llama though, dammit.
Re: It's Called Ignore (Score:2)
That's super awesome, thanks for sharing! I love great dog stories like that.
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Omg, I wish we had puppy petting stations when I was in school. Not because I was stressed out (I was) over finals but because I love dogs and couldn't have one during school years. Dogs rock! I like cats, too, all animals actually but dogs have a special place. I feel bad for everyone who never had a dog in their life.
My mother in la has a dog that was trained to be a reading therapy dog. Basically would just lay there next to the kid and the kid would read out loud to the dog. Most even tempered dog I've ever seen.
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The bigger question is what is the point of a "protest" when the only people who see it are the like minded whiners?
You're missing the point - it's so that the press can legitimately report "Look how widespread the support for the rioters are, even video game players are supoprting it!"
They will conveniently ignore the fact that the support expressed by gamers is so tiny it barely counts as statistical noise.
It's like BLM renting a conference room and shouting "black lives matter" at each other.
Expect them to do so soon, so that the press can report how widespread support is, that even conference rooms are being booke
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It's no a protest. It's a protest themed fundraising event.
Have you ever sponsored a kid in a "fun run" or similar charity event? It's like that.
Why this bothers you so much is a mystery. People have been helping others since time immemorial. Sometimes, they even have fun while they do it. You should probably just get over it.
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LOL!
Well you're talking about it now (Score:2)
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It was also about fundraising. Happens everywhere. This was just a smallish thing in a game, but compare to the modern echo chambers in politics, designed just to get the donors to pull out the big checks. It has backfired, sometimes someone in the echo chamber records words that were intended only for the faithful which then shocks and offends when it gets out (as has happened to Mitt and Hillary).
Let's hope they discover FPS (Score:3, Funny)
To (insert political bullshit) supporters and haters can have a conversation in a way they both understand.
And is entertaining for the sane people left on the planet. Anyone available to stream it? It would probably be the first gaming stream I'd watch.
Re: Let's hope they discover FPS (Score:2)
Frames Per Second?
First-Person Shooter?
Fisting Perverted Shemale?
I can't, for the life or me, figure out what you might have meant.
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Almost certainly First Person Shooter.
No other multiplayer game would be as entertaining for watching gaming streams of reactions to political spammers.
Well, OK, perhaps Carmageddon.
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The topic is videogames. And it's about people rather than the technical aspect thereof. Take a wild guess which one it might be.
I know that comprehensive reading isn't for everyone, perhaps you should try Reddit or Facebook instead of Slashdot?
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It would have been clearer if you spelt it "FPSs" or "FPSers".
You are assuming that everyone who reads /. is gamer who cares about gaming and/or gaming genres.
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Sorry, but yes, I do assume that someone reading a topic that has "Videogames" in its very title to be at the very least interested in the matter. Why else would someone read a topic?
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I'm not sure it classes as FPS but Fortnite just spend a whole day broadcasting propaganda within the game.
That was the company doing it, not the players.
Personally I don't care. Use an avatar that says 'black lives matter', 'white lives matter' or 'shave the whales', like I give a shit.
As long as the server host has a uniform policy (allowing all political statements or none at all) then it's very democratic.
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However as long as the server host is a private entity and not a state entity, they can have whatever policy they want on their services. That is their own right guaranteed by constitutional free speech laws.
At that point you can either like it, trying to change it though the host has no obligation to listen to you unless specified otherwise in some kind of contract, or leave it. Or
Re:Let's hope they discover FPS (Score:5, Interesting)
That is their own right guaranteed by constitutional free speech laws.
You'll find that those don't apply outside of America.
Computer gaming is a global business. Americans have their speech curtailed to avoid offending the Chinese Government.
Even leaving that aside, Fortnite explicitly targets children as its market. I'm very comfortable with laws preventing the political indoctrination of children.
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I'm very comfortable with laws preventing the political indoctrination of children.
I'm not. That's a very dangerous idea.
I don't think you've thought this all the way through.
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No, I've seen the result of the last 30 years of indoctrination.
I'm not saying that a flame thrower is the correct response to the entire generation. Just 10% would suffice, and also help the job prospects of the survivors.
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So I took a look through your comment history to be able to better read between the lines, and I'm starting to see where you're coming from.
This one happens to be about BLM, that you do not approve of.
Translation: You're very comfortable with laws preventing viewpoints I don't agree with.
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Which part of me not giving a shit if people want to support BLM in games did you manage to miss in this very fucking thread?
Is the difference between player activity and a large corporation broadcasting propaganda at children really so difficult for you to comprehend?
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You obviously don't agree with that, given your comment here and sentiments like "black people also had slaves" from other comments. So it's propaganda. And it would be cool if it was suppressed by law, because "think of the children!".
Again, private entities. If you don't want your kids to be exposed to it, don't let them play it.
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I'm confused, what the fuck does the fact that black people throughout history have had slaves have to do with a dislike of indoctrinating children?
I can't stop other kids playing it. I can't stop them going to child abuse classes either. I mean, church. I can however petition law makers to stop people teaching utter fucking nonsense to children.
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If you wear a slogany avatar, it might influence how other players act. Could even use that as an advantage in team games. Put an obvious political figure on your team, and they make a great decoy - while half the enemy team is chasing the decoy around and celebrating "I killed the [librard/wingnut]," your team are free to go and grab the flag.
That said, there's a reason most games limit avatar customization, and it's not just so they can flog lootboxes with fancier skins. It's also a moderation cost trying
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To (insert political bullshit) supporters and haters can have a conversation in a way they both understand.
If you want to get technical, one side in the Red Orchestra and CoD WW2 games are antifa.
Best Option for Gun Control Debate (Score:2)
And is entertaining for the sane people left on the planet.
Agreed. Might I suggest the gun control debate as the first one to try in this new format? The NRA will be able to show how heavily arming everyone creates a wonderfully peaceful society and gun control advocates will finally be able to take the NRA's guns from their cold, (virtually) dead hands but only by using exactly what they want to remove from society. The irony on both sides will be palpable!
Sadly, the problem with trying to settle this, or any other contentious issue, in this fashion is that it
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Actually Rust plays a bit like a NRA wonderland. As soon as everyone is armed to the teeth, people stop shooting at each other because the damage taken is usually not worth the potential loot, let alone the risk that the other person is better with their rifle than you are.
If you're unarmed, respawn. And I take your rock.
I Like Ike (Score:5, Interesting)
When I was a kid, I had this impression at some point that people used to be more serious. Then I saw the Eisenhower TV commercial with a cartoon and a jingle. Disillusionment. And in fact, I later read a book that was a bio of somebody... might have been US Grant, in which he recounts a bitter campaign that was part of his early political awareness. During that campaign, he recalled people saying "Rat, Rat, Democrat!" and "Whig, Whig, Big fat pig!" because the Republicans didn't exist yet.
The point being, is that politics is full of infantile stupidity. It has probably always been this way.
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The point being, is that politics is full of infantile stupidity. It has probably always been this way.
The same principle as the squeaky wheel getting the most oil applies here. Politics has always been full of children, but important to remember is that we usually only hear the bullshit done by the extremes at either end.
It's America, you're either red or blue, there's no middle ground. Just like a few weeks ago you were either protesting in the street or a police officer sent out to stop them, no one reported on the 370million people who went about their daily lives.
And that's the way the media has always
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no one reported on the 370million people who went about their daily lives.
How do you think news works?
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Politics has always been targeting the lowest common denominator. And since the rule "one person - one vote" holds true and it's easier and considerably less investment to sway a dimwit than to convince a rationally thinking person, well, who do you target?
Re: I Like Ike (Score:3, Informative)
Except in the voting precincts which turn into more votes than have registered voters. One person, one vote, indeed.
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That's an issue with voting machine companies, which you've had pointed out to you before.
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Actually it does, the appearance of the phenomena coincided with the rollout of computerized voting machines. Several state elections have been decided by precinct totals that were egregiously wrong but since the "recount" process consists of reading the memory cards of the machines, blindly accepting the number reported, and then adding them up no change in the outcome was possible. Investigate "Black Box Voting" if you want to be truly appalled by the state of US elections, one group literally taught a
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How would anyone know?
Volunteer to participate in the process and find out.
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Well, as the wise philosopher Pratchett once said:
“Ankh-Morpork had dallied with many forms of government and had ended up with that form of democracy known as One Man, One Vote. The Patrician was the Man; he had the Vote.”
And on the subject:
“‘Listen, Peaches, trickery is what humans are all about,’ said the voice of Maurice. ‘They’re so keen on tricking one another all the time that they elect governments to do it for them.’”
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When I was a kid, I had this impression at some point that people used to be more serious. Then I saw the Eisenhower TV commercial with a cartoon and a jingle. Disillusionment. And in fact, I later read a book that was a bio of somebody... might have been US Grant, in which he recounts a bitter campaign that was part of his early political awareness. During that campaign, he recalled people saying "Rat, Rat, Democrat!" and "Whig, Whig, Big fat pig!" because the Republicans didn't exist yet.
The point being, is that politics is full of infantile stupidity. It has probably always been this way.
Never heard of the "Know Nothing" party then, huh?
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The First Rule of the Know Nothing party is to uh.... I forget..... ah fuck it, nevermind
That's actually how they got their name. It was originally formed as a semi secret society and, when pressed, members were supposed to say they knew nothing about it. So they earned the derisive name "Know Nothings" that stuck when it became a formal political party.
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but it's not as funny when you say it like that
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Of course it has, except it used to be more entertaining because you had a decent chance they'd at least shoot/stab each other in a duel when the egos got big enough.
Seriously, though: this is simply endemic to democracy. I guarantee you back in Athens there were people starting salacious whispering campaigns against their opponent or faction. That it "feels worse" now is only because more people have a voice, that's it.
And to that point: be suspicious of anyone claiming "this is the worst it's ever been"
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" I guarantee you back in Athens there were people starting salacious whispering campaigns against their opponent or faction."
Oh my, yes. Read your Thucydides.
Modern Politics is Like The Matrix (Score:2)
The point being, is that politics is full of infantile stupidity. It has probably always been this way.
True, but as well as the infantile stupidity there was also a debate on the issues which might occasionally get infantile but which at least was there so that people could hear both sides and make up their minds. It's that debate that seems to be completely missing today.
On the left, you have the cancel culture that demands you be silenced the moment you say anything that they disagree with because you have offended someone somewhere on the planet (but mainly just themselves). On the right, you have peo
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Gaium Iulium Polybiom aedilem oro vos faciatis!
Panem bonum fert!
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Yes, politics in America has always had a very low standard for debate from the very start. We mostly only remember the famous noble speeches because that's what gets taught in schools. But then, this is also true for many countries, and if you look at the history it's probably every country at some point.
Humans do have a common failing I think, and that's the mistaken assumption that we can convert our political opponents through the use of logic and reason. And when that fails we resort to name callling
Insane level of slacktivism. (Score:3, Insightful)
Unrelated to what they are protesting for ... Please tell us the effects it will have on political leaders, your enemies, or anyone. And what the consequences will be, if they just ignore, or most likely never find out about your "protests".
You know that people in earlier decades used to do real protests, where you protest right in front of the buildings of political leaders, throwing even bricks and molotov cocktails at opposing violent cops or even army tanks siding with the enemies of the people, and being a real threat of storming the political buildings and toppling the government, which is the whole damn point, right?
You know people in most countries *actually do that*, and change their leadership if it doesn't obey the will of the people? Actual consequences! Without caring if they go to prison, are killed, or even tortured. Like in the Arab Spring, as a recent example. Like in China. Like in South America, in the last century.
Can you even imagine the level of bravery those people call *normal*?
Yes. Normal.
Seriously, this is the single most pathetic generation of losers in the history of mankind.
Not even their heart is actually behind it.
Probably because they don't really know what they are doing, and are just treating it like the latest SJW fashion trend to conform to. Like a meme.
Can we put them in with the telephone sanitizers, please?
And for the record, yes, black lives matter, like all lives, and US cops more often than not aren't your friend and helper, but should be.
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Unrelated to what they are protesting for ... Please tell us the effects it will have on political leaders, your enemies, or anyone.
Indeed. Protest groups should never get together and discuss or raise awareness about anything.
Another ignorant post brought to us by BAReFO0t
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sorry risking personal injury vs clicking a button one is lesser than the other
Re: Insane level of slacktivism. (Score:2)
I am unable to respond to your flurry of facts and irrefutable logic, sir! I am defeated!
Morons (Score:2, Insightful)
Crime that very often involves killing black people.
Half of violent crime in the US is done by blacks.
If this organization was honestly concerned about black lives they'd figure out how to reduce crime.
But they're communists ignoring the cases that don't fit their agenda to foment hatred.
Re:Morons (Score:4, Insightful)
I think the protests have shown clearly that cops will take any excuse to be violent. People literally just standing around get tear gassed or shot with rubber bullets. There's a video of a cop playing the schoolyard trick of suddenly stopping in front of a guy that's walking, and when he walks into the cop, 5 other cops jump him because now he's committed assault under some vague technical definition.
Cops use violence disproportionate to the offence a lot of the time. They shoot people that are running away. They shoot people—and a disproportionately high number of black people based on demographics—sometimes without warning. John Crawford was basically just standing in a WalMart holding a BB gun that he'd picked up in the aisle and the cops came in, yelled at him and shot him before he could even move. I mean, c'mon. The examples just go on and on.
Canada has this problem too. 30-40% of the incarcerated population is First Nations (what you call Native American), but they only make up 3-4% of the population. I have a hard time believing that they honestly commit that much crime.
But I think it's best summed up by this: "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread."
The reason why we consider racism 'institutional' is because the long standing policies of governments in North America have disadvantaged some people enough that more of their behaviours are considered criminal. People have come up with plenty of ways to reduce crime, and most of them come down to things that cost tax money (better schools, free health care, *reparations*) or things that make us confront our racist past (remediating the effects of redlining) but until now, nobody wanted to try those things because something-something-bootstraps. We KNOW how to make things better, but politicians won't actually DO them, and a lot of white people are allies right up until the moment that it costs them something.
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People literally just standing around get tear gassed or shot with rubber bullets.
That's usually because journalists crop out the part where people weren't just "standing around", e.g. https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/pr... [lbc.co.uk]
Or that time when the usual journalists screamed "tear gas vs. peaceful protesters" but it later turned out they "peacefully" threw bricks, bottles and caustic liquids at cops and the "tear gas" was just smoke.
Never mind the vandalism that becomes visible the next day when the "peaceful" protesters have left and residents have to deal with the damage they've left behind.
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That 7 year old who the police pepper sprayed must have been wielding a hell of a weapon. https://www.theguardian.com/us... [theguardian.com]
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That article is just another example of what I said: claims of peaceful protesters right in the first sentence with an emotional out of context video that doesn't show what actually happened.
The kid's parents are to blame for bringing a young child to protests that regularly turn into riots. Children aren't shields or accessories for your activism.
police role (Score:2)
The police have historically been around mostly to bash the heads the powerful are annoyed with, often black peop
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Almost no protests turn into riots. Pretty much the only ones that do are provoked by bullshit like this cop, on a large scale. I've been watching protests for most of half a century and that has almost always been the case.
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I crunched the numbers [slashdot.org] fully expecting blacks to be killed disproportionately by police. To my surprise, once you normalize for number of arrests, blacks are actually the least likely to be killed by police. Native Americans and Asians are most likely to be killed, by a significant margin.
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Here's one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Only an idiot would fail to see through the obvious police ploy here to create an incident, so I'm anticipating a lot of replies defending them.
More videos of police violence and escalation are listed here:
https://docs.google.com/spread... [google.com]
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You are predictable. Sadly so.
At 0:07 in the video, the officer deliberately plants both feet and initiates the contact; all of the other cops jump in instantly after that, because they obviously knew it was coming.
I'm sorry you don't feel that 700+ incidents of police violence are anything to be excited about. Maybe this link, which describes the impact of police shooting someone indiscriminately, will have some effect:
https://www.texasmonthly.com/p... [texasmonthly.com]
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Maybe this link, which describes the impact of police shooting someone indiscriminately, will have some effect:
https://www.texasmonthly.com/p... [texasmonthly.com]
In a sane world, that cop would be charged with attempted murder.
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So far, the Austin police have announced nothing. It's crazy.
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Seeing how limp the kid was, and then seeing the beanbag actually lodged in the crown of his head, I assumed he died instantly. Those doctors must have done an amazing job. Of course, gotta love the cops pepper spraying all the people that carried the kid over to them so he could get medical attention.....
Re: Morons (Score:2)
The dude CLEARLY cuts in behind the cop. He changes his path. The cop does not step out in front of him. Since I called out that "error", you change the story to the co planting his feet. Yes, the cops way over reacted but they did not start first contact.
Your'e intellectually dishonest.
We're done here.
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a) I think you have lost track of who said what here; the original post was from someone else.
b) The cop obviously planted his feet to create the incident. The video isn't ambiguous at all.
c) I'm glad you're concentrating on the important part, which is the thread of the conversation here at /., and ignoring the unimportant part where the police initiate and escalate violence.
Re: Morons (Score:2)
Again: I trust my own lying eyes more than your description. The guy changed his path, cut in behind the cop who is now facing away from him and they bumped. It looks like an accident. I don't know why he chose to alter his path. The video doesn't show what happened prior to this leading up to one guy have a 4+ cop escort. The cops appear to have gone overboard once they bumped. But you are full of shit saying the cop intentionally caused the collision. Complete and utter bullshit.
You're just dishone
Re: Morons (Score:4, Interesting)
Police brutality occurs as a result of 2 factors. 1) the person attempts to fight and flee 2) the person is perceived to be from a low income class. Growing up poor and irish, Living in the US, I saw just as many asshole cops. If it were purely racial you wouldn't see black cops just as guilty of bullying and brutality.
Where racism comes into play is that black people are more likely to be assumed low income class, even when not the case. The root cause is class warfare, not racism. Until we address the root cause, we are never going to solve the issue of police using brutal tactics. We will just have another round of appeasement.
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Police brutality occurs as a result of 2 factors. 1) the person attempts to fight and flee 2) the person is perceived to be from a low income class. Growing up poor and irish, Living in the US, I saw just as many asshole cops. If it were purely racial you wouldn't see black cops just as guilty of bullying and brutality.
If someone is fleeing on foot after a non-violent crime, why chase them and use potentially deadly force? Especially if you know who they are. They aren't an immediate threat to the community, so track them down a day or 2 later. Instead, we have cops shooting fleeing men in the back or chasing them down with dogs like modern day slave patrols.
It's institutional racism, combined with militarization of police and prioritization of police safety over safety of the public. The police are trained to inheren
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To get respect you have to earn respect.
This works both ways. Perhaps criminals should be more respectful.
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While I generally agree with your sentiment.
To get respect you have to earn respect.
This works both ways. Perhaps criminals should be more respectful.
Innocent until proven guilty. Until you are convicted you aren't a criminal, just a suspect.
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That is the problem. To the police everyone is someone who just hasn't committed a crime yet.
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That's not true. To the police, everyone is just a criminal they haven't yet caught.
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Half of violent crime in the US is done by blacks.
Wrong [infogram.com]. It depends on which race you're comparing.
I did a good bit of searching until I came to the above link. It's amazing that there doesn't appear to be a fucking chart, or any sort of statistics that simply say how many actual white people committed a violent crime vs blacks that committed a violent crime. They're all done by percent of population, and to make it even stupider, they group whites with Mexican/Latinos. In the end, black people commit far more violent crimes than white people, even wh
Re: Morons (Score:2, Informative)
>Why are the police brutalizing and murdering people anyway?
They shouldn't be. In a large enough population you'll always have bad apples. Even one case of police murder is not acceptable.
>Is it really necessary to use choke holds?
Sometimes. Cops aren't super human and if you take away some of the tools they may need to subdue a stronger person they will more quickly arrive at the only solution they have left: pulling their gun. The cops I know pride themselves on not having had to pull their guns
Re: Morons (Score:5, Insightful)
In a large enough population you'll always have bad apples.
That's not what this is. Take the guy who murdered George Floyd, Derek Chauvin. He had a lot of complaints against him and nothing much was done about it. He was still a cop, the system and his colleagues didn't prevent him from going on to commit murder.
Re: Morons (Score:2)
Sure and there were bogus complaints filed against a Portland cop the other day for "flashing the white supremacy sign" which was complete bullshit.
Was that guy a bad cop? Probably. He had no reason to sit on the guy like that. Is he a bad cop because there are complaints filed? No, not in and of itself because there were complaints filed. I don't know about your country but my country has the concept of "innocent until proven guilty". That may be a foreign concept to you.
Let's play a game: AmiMoJo is
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it's still not true until PROVEN true.
But according to you every BLM protester is a looter! Now I'm confused . . .
Re: Morons (Score:2)
I never said any such thing. If you go back far enough in my post history you'll see I made a clear distinction between peaceful protesters which I 100000% support and approve of and people who riot, loot, destructive and generally violent.
Straw man.
Would you care to try again based on what I've actually said and not what you feel I've said?
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BTW is this a new form of poetry?
I blame social media.
Right-wingers don't read.
This keeps your points short and visible.
Burma shave.
Article thinks I'm dumb (Score:2, Insightful)
BLM propaganda -> that's made by concerned players, very inspirational, great people aware of the suffering of blacks
Trump propaganda -> made by insane and sick hackers , allegedly paid by mafias to spread hate .
Well, As for me, it is the other way around actually.... Those spreading hate against trump supporters, ironically shout "they will not divide us" just to mislead people about the real purport
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its not just the article, its the entire planet
Players were encouraged to bring in-game currency (Score:2)
-The middle man strikes again!
Stop ruining everything with your selfishness (Score:2, Informative)
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They're not forcing anyone to attend their protests. Your comment is as stupid as being against black lives mattering.
It's alright not to support Black Lives Matter or to be against it. Some of us believe all life matters, no matter your colour, gender or orientation and not just that of a few self-entitled egomaniacs who are using it to wage a social war. It sure isn't love and forgiveness they're showing. It's their own hatred and racism, either turned inwards on themselves or against others, that's doing all the talking.
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It's alright not to support Black Lives Matter or to be against it. Some of us believe all life matters, no matter your colour, gender or orientation
If you actually believed that, you would be in favor of the statement "Black Lives Matter". Responding to it with "All Lives Matter" is just a way to negate the concerns of people who are identified as Black. "Black Lives Matter" never said "Only Black Lives Matter", but that's how you're willfully misinterpreting it so that you can disagree with it with a clear conscience.
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Is this really so difficult for you to believe when others choose not to join into a campaign, which draws focus onto one particular colour, polarises people, causes again violence and other random acts of senseless behaviour?
It's in a way very much the same with D. Trump's politics. He set out to make America great again, but all he does it to make America hate again... It's not the good intentions that matter. It's how one does it that has consequences and it's these consequences you need to consider.
So,
BLM arrived in the UK (Score:4, Interesting)
Just yesterday, a warm sunny Sunday, did I walk along the local river when a young black woman spots me, blinks her eyes, walks straight up to me and blocks my path. Me, being a white male, 50, out to keep fit, and she being probably in the twenties, short and slightly over-weight. The path we were one was more than 2m wide (>7ft). It was in the middle of nowhere, a small forest section, we were alone, no houses, no streets nearby, and she walks up to me, to a total stranger, and starts to bully me. She ignored the rules for social distancing, starred right at me from a foot away, she didn't keep to her left and instead told me to move away from here, because she now walks here. I had first thought she was going to as me for directions or the time, but I certainly didn't expect to be bullied. I didn't move away, I was intrigued by her apparent ignorant behaviour, and instead leaned calmly against a post to see where she was going with this. She didn't like my reaction to her attempt and so she walked away rambling how she has rights... I told her to fuck off and went on to continue my Sunday walk.
I could have been anybody, a rapist, a murderer, I could have had my way with her out there in the middle of nowhere. Young women usually know better not to walk alone in such areas or to draw needless attention to themselves. It's simply not smart especially with a big city nearby. People are also quite aware of the social distancing rules and you can see us Brits queuing in big lines.
So now BLM has arrived in the UK. I never cared for people's colour before, and I won't do it now. You can fuck right off if you try.
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Liar.
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Why do you think that?
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