Commerce Secretary 'Very Worried' About AI Being Used Nefariously in 2024 Election (go.com) 60
Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo said she is "very worried" about AI being used nefariously in the 2024 election, she told reporters at a press conference in Washington, D.C. on Thursday. From a report: "AI can do amazing things and AI can disrupt our elections, here and around the world," she said. "We're already starting to see it." Raimondo was asked by ABC News about the robocall sent on the day of the New Hampshire primary purporting to be from President Biden and spreading misinformation about voting times.
She said the government is going to work "extensively" to start putting out AI framework that helps people -- including journalists -- be able to decipher what is real and what is fake. The Commerce Secretary added that AI companies want to do the right thing based on her conversations with them. "Am I worried? Yes," she said. "Do I think we have the tools to protect our election and our democracy? Yes. Do I feel based on my interactions with the private sector that they want to do the right thing? By and large, Yes. It's a big threat."
She said the government is going to work "extensively" to start putting out AI framework that helps people -- including journalists -- be able to decipher what is real and what is fake. The Commerce Secretary added that AI companies want to do the right thing based on her conversations with them. "Am I worried? Yes," she said. "Do I think we have the tools to protect our election and our democracy? Yes. Do I feel based on my interactions with the private sector that they want to do the right thing? By and large, Yes. It's a big threat."
The AI we don't need (Score:3)
You got this under control.. (Score:5, Funny)
Its just party A or party B, so it's not that much important.
Unless someone cracks the code of making an independent party win the election somehow using AI.
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I for one welcome our AI overlords if it manages to to change US elections off the First-Past-The-Post voting method which is the only way a 3rd party is ever going to gain any traction.
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It's Party AB.
When it comes to anything important they all make a lot of noise how much they love/hate it and somehow whatever it is stays the same or gets worse.
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On your side of the pond, it's one party, actually. They formally split in 1834, into two factions whose values are respectively:
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Ha. Regardless of where you're from you've just gotta love hearing from the ignorant foreigner talking with such wonderful assurance about your own country.
Cheers.
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Spotted a bigot.
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Yes, I'm bigot towards idiots. You got me good.
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You might want to show the difference between A and B. From the distance across the pond, they look incredibly identical.
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Probably the megacorporations backing em, but it is a fact that when they agree on something, its normally something really bad.
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So you get to vote on which corps get to fleece you.
That's like living in a really bad neighborhood but you get a say in which street gang is gonna shake you down for money.
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Both A and B are inept. Some are naively inept, others are maliciously inept, but they idea that a politician should be trying to govern and improve their district/state/nation is an obsolete idea. Politics is a game, team A versus team B, and there are no rules and no move is off-limits as long as it helps your team win. Thus the rise of the inept politician - they're elected precisely because they play a good election game, they've mastered the art of the smear, they appeal to the dumb vote, but when i
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Its just party A or party B, so it's not that much important. Unless someone cracks the code of making an independent party win the election somehow using AI.
crack? Nikki Haley just lost 2:1 to Pocket Lint.
Even ROT-13 is laughing at that code.
AI (Score:2)
new thing to reject election results on, let the fear mongering begin
Re: AI (Score:1)
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If it works as well as the rest of their junk, I'm not too worried.
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Russia doesn't need AI. They bought the orange goon and got the Republican party for free.
I'm more worried about our choice of candidate (Score:5, Interesting)
It appears that we're down to two contenders.
One is an aging, barely competent corporate whore who is struggling to get half the nation to approve of his work.
The other is an aging, barely competent wannabe dictator with a small but rabid fanbase who are generally as batshit crazy as their chosen candidate.
Regardless of the outcome of the election, there will be a substantial number of people who will be unhappy with the outcome and may potentially choose to take matters into their own hands. I'm pretty sure that the nation will continue to accelerate towards a Second Civil War as the rest of the world kicks off World War 3.
I know that this will end up moderated as "Troll" but as always I'm willing to consider any evidence to the contrary.
Please prove me wrong.
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If you look at the actual actions of Trump, you will see he's pretty far from an dictator. man likes talking shit but he's basically the real life version of Mr.Satan from dragon ball Z.
But an incontestable fact is that both are insanely old and should be on a retirement home or something.
Also you should pay more attention to the rest of the parties, the president is just the face of the train, they're the rest of the cargo.
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I see our mods prefer to have an advanced Alzheimer's victim than someone conscious running the country.
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If you look at the actual actions of Trump, you will see he's pretty far from an dictator. man likes talking shit but he's basically the real life version of Mr.Satan from dragon ball Z.
Except for that whole "scheme to overturn the election"
Nevermind the fact that the guy has continually called our elections "fake" and "rigged" for months and months before the leadup to 2020 and even said the 2016 election had massive voter fraud.
We need to stop pretending that just because the man is bad at these things doesn't mean he isn't trying or the intention wasn't there. The court case is in progress but I have little doubt there is enough evidence to paint a mens rea that Trump was intending to
Re: scheme to overturn the election (Score:4, Informative)
Hillary called Trump "illegitimate" on a couple occasions which is irresponsible language and I have said as such. On the other hand she was a private citizen when she made those statements, not the sitting President Of The United States.
I can pull up dozens of quotes from Trump, as Nominee and as President calling into question the literal count of the votes.
Can you pull some quotes from Hillary or Gore calling into question the actual ballots as they were counted?
Let us also note that Clinton conceded the very next day after the election and once Gore lost in court he immediately conceded as well.
I am fairly sure you, Mr. AC are the one with an honest reality issue if you are equating any of these things. Or really, its a cope problem.
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Hmm...so, that's what they call "contesting an election" now, eh?
I mean, in the past few elections where republicans won, the democrats contested them, claimed stolen/cheated...etc.
But Trump does it, and now it called overturn/insurrection?
I'll admit Trump's talking points on this are over the top, but that's all this was was the losing side contesting the results...much like will happen this election no matter who wins.
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Nobody is saying Trump didn't deserve his day in court. He got it, in fact he got dozens of them and he lost all of them.
After that, for him to continue pushing a false narrative to his supporters, a narrative that he knows was false because everyone he had appointed personally down to his own fucking Attorney General told him as such.
Instead he continues to push a lie right up until he a crowd on the Capitol during the day the electoral votes are counted and continues to push it to this day and during tha
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What day in court? All the relevant lawsuits by Trump and not others were tossed for standing or more often ripe/mootness.
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Here is a chance for you to do some reading and education:
Major Pending Election Cases [osu.edu]
Litigation in the 2020 Election [americanbar.org]
Trump’s judicial campaign to upend the 2020 election: A failure, but not a wipe-out [brookings.edu]
Also since when is lack of standing suddenly not a valid legal reasoning to throw a case out? It's a pretty critically important concept in legal theory so you have to explain that. A dismissal from lack of standing is a judge telling you "come back with someone who has standing to bring a case". Why di
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I biffed that last link
https://www.theguardian.com/us... [theguardian.com]
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Calling for a recount or challenging an improper handling in court is one thing. Going beyond that is another..
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Hmm...so, that's what they call "contesting an election" now, eh?
It's called an isurrection. The loser even said so [imgur.com].
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If that was an insurrection, is was the lousiest excuse for one I've ever seen or imagined.
C'mon, we have more guns that we have people in the US.
If there were to be an actual by-the-book insurrection, don't you think there's be a TON of people armed doing it?
Sorry....the group that later rioted, had at best...a miniature model of a guillotine that you see on TV...so small, it would barely handle a barbie doll if it were actually a working model.
That and with Trump's parting
Huh? (Score:2)
This claim of Jan6th as an attempt to overturn an election is dishonest, absurd, irrational, and a concerted political tactic, and I'll explain why. Try not to be some sort of propagandized clapping seal who tosses about a mantra like "insurrection", which you've probably never used before, simply because the modern versions of Riefenstahl have repeated it over and over again.
The ONLY way that demanding all legitimate votes be counted and no illegitimate votes be counted constitutes "a scheme to overturn a
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Last time around, Trump was blocked from being a dictator by the adults that were in various positions (e.g. Milley). Towards of the end of his term, he figured out he could just appoint sycophants as 'temporary' office holders and they'd do anything he wanted (e.g. Chad Wolf).
Trump learned his lesson, and isn't going to accept any appointee that isn't loyal to him and him alone. Fuck, the guy has already said multiple times that he plans to invoke the insurrection act against people who protest him, and yo
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He's merely a dictator wannabe. He blames the deep state for his inability to rule the way he wants. He has publically said how he admires other dictators, presumably because they learned how to bypass legislatures. He has stated plans for many things that are unconstitutional, plans for installing his people at all levels of government. He has advisors who have learned from his first administration where they could not sieze full power, and they'll be better and grabbing control if there's a second chanc
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Even though I think we will be on opposite sides, I must agree that war is coming, and soon, and if not, then something even worse.
About half the country consists of lawless takers and murderers.
About another half consists of makers and protectors.
One seeks to defend, the other to destroy.
It should not be difficult to see that neither group can peaceably coexist with the other.
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Quite frankly, what you have there is two old geezers who are less what they are but what they stand for, throwing petty bullshit issues about that neither of them really gives a toss about but makes a strong emotional impact on their voter base so they're motivated to vote for A or B because they're pro-life or pro-BLM (frankly, neither topic is something either party really gives half a toss about... but it sure gets you worked up enough to vote for them).
And all the while the people in the middle who wou
Re:I'm more worried about our choice of candidate (Score:5, Insightful)
Quite frankly, what you have there is two old geezers who are less what they are but what they stand for, throwing petty bullshit issues about that neither of them really gives a toss about but makes a strong emotional impact on their voter base so they're motivated to vote for A or B because they're pro-life or pro-BLM (frankly, neither topic is something either party really gives half a toss about... but it sure gets you worked up enough to vote for them).
And all the while the people in the middle who would actually care about the real issues that simply get ignored wonder how the hell do we get these two fuckers to stand back to back because neither of them is worth a whole bullet.
The controversial issues are the ones that get coverage, but Biden (and his people) actually does seem sincere in his desire to do go.
The GOP on the other and (and Trump especially), were given a bill that supports Israel (which they claim to love), Ukraine (which most of them claim to love), and Border Security (which they REALLY claim to care about), and they killed it because Trump was worried that it might actually fix the crisis at the border so he couldn't campaign on it during the election.
Politicians literally trying to prolong a crisis to improve their electoral prospects should not only be removed from office, but given the same level of public respect as lepers and child molesters.
Current leadership has determined the value. (Score:2)
I’m honestly not too concerned over who is President. Sadly, that lack of concern has been validated by our current administration who has proven how irrelevant strong leadership can be.
A President certainly should be strong, but if you can continue to keep the boat afloat with this kind of leadership, it says a lot as to how many minds and voices are involved.well beyond the person we vote to sit in the bosses seat every 4 years.
I really don’t even know what to say about the job of Vice Presid
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What makes him different from other presidents? A democrat president allowed banks to speculate on almost any investment and allowed US colleges to bait and switch loan plans and did nothing when the government of Michigan was found to be wilfully pumping poisoned water into the city. It was the Democrat party that gave the banks a get-out-jail free loophole and demanded Medicare/Medi-aid remain a fascist orgy and fired their winning-the-primaries candidate so a clueless woman could take the job.
From my
Just get rid of all the politicians (Score:2)
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Do we really want to play this game?
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"The only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged"
"I WON THIS ELECTION, BY A LOT!"
"They are finding Biden votes all over the place — in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. So bad for our Country!'
"I've been talking about mail-in voting for a long time. It's -- it's really destroyed our system. It's a corrupt system. And it makes people corrupt even if they aren't by nature, but they become corrupt; it's too easy. They want to find ou
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Oh I'm sorry if i don't like this type of language coming from The fucking President of the United States himself.
What's inside my head is actual American patriotism, not fealty to a single man.
Actual Intelligence (Score:2)
Re: Actual Intelligence (Score:2)
Well, they also seem to be failing at other parts of their job, like grammer, spelling, vocabulary . . .
Re: Actual Intelligence (Score:2)
Haha, I cannot spell grammar in a post snarking about other people's spelling.
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I am convinced the person who put the extra “a” in grammar, is the same one who chose to put an “s” in lisp.
Does it matter? (Score:2)
In the next prez election you have the choice between one goofball who is so senile that he can't tell fact from fiction and one goofball who takes pride in being unable to do it.
I still say that the ballot should allow "neither" and if "neither" gets the majority, both of them get disposed of (preferably off some cliff) and two others get put up. And this gets repeated 'til someone who isn't a total tosser gets nominated.
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Approval Voting [wikipedia.org]
Instant Runoff Voting [wikipedia.org]
Until we implement something like these electoral systems every single voter is fully incentivized to vote for one of the two parties. This is baked into how we do things in the US, the time to make a change is during the primaries and turnout for those is absolutely pathetic, like under 30% in many places under 20%.
Also you can choose "neither", it's the law in the US that you can partial ballot, you don't have to vote for President but most people will have a preferenc
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Which ballot? It's different in every state.
And I would be tremendously surprised if any of them had only two choices.
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There are only two choices that really matter.
The last time it was NOT the other side of The Party (i.e. GOP/DEM) that was second was in 1912 when Theodore Roosevelt came in second on an independent ticket. And I'm fairly sure he only got there because he was president in 1904, or else nobody would have bothered. And you'd have to go back to 1968 to see a third party actually carry a state. And of course it was a populist right-wing party, who'd have guessed...
If you want to see someone from neither Republi
Meanwhile, in Pakistan (Score:3)
AI has already been used in elections
December 18, 2023
ISLAMABAD (AP) — For the first time, artificial intelligence has been used to deliver a speech by Pakistan’s imprisoned former Prime Minister Imran Khan to supporters. The stunning development could help his political party to win upcoming elections, analysts said Monday.
The replicated voice of Pakistan’s most popular opposition figure was used to address a virtual event on social media watched by more than a million people. The four-minute speech was written by Khan in prison and delivered by AI.
It was not immediately clear if Khan’s Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf party, or PTI, violated any laws. The party confirmed the speech was AI-generated. Khan’s public addresses are heavily restricted in Pakistan.
Khan has had almost no contact with the outside world since he was imprisoned in August on a corruption charge. He faces a slew of other legal cases, making it impossible for him to contest the Feb. 8 parliamentary polls. His lawyer says he still could submit his nomination papers as his appeal of his conviction and sentencing has yet to be decided by a court.
February 9, 2024
Khan’s party’s candidates were forced to run as independents after they were barred from using the party symbol — a cricket bat — to help illiterate voters find them on ballots.
With 90% of the 266 National Assembly results announced by the election oversight body, candidates backed by Khan’s Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf party, or PTI, had won 98 seats. The Pakistan Muslim League party of three-time premier Sharif, had 67 seats.
But with a third major party in the mix, nobody could declare outright victory.
I wonder what the results would have been if Pakistan hadn't shut down telecommunications on election day.
danger of AI (Score:2)
In other words, govt is worrying that they might not be able to censor AI-generated stuff fast enough to make sure the wrong ideas don't get out.