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In These Eight Midterms Races, Health and Medicine Are Front and Center (statnews.com) 230

An anonymous reader shares a report: In Idaho, Nebraska, and Utah, voters will directly decide whether their states should expand their Medicaid programs. In Wisconsin, they could elect a candidate for governor who has pledged to sharply curtail drug prices. And across the country, Democratic congressional candidates are running on platforms highlighting their support for protecting insurance coverage for those with pre-existing conditions and lowering drug prices. Health care is on the ballot across the country, with issues ranging from medical marijuana to abortion rights to insurance coverage dominating the conversation.
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In These Eight Midterms Races, Health and Medicine Are Front and Center

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  • Market solutions (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Shotgun ( 30919 ) on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @01:00PM (#57600258)

    Do any of these candidate propose anything that makes sense like expanding the market supply by building medical schools or rolling back some of the regulations that do nothing but block lower cost solutions? Or will they just continue with the tried and true "we'll regulate cost and then be surprised when the market doesn't comply with our fondly held wishes."

    • The limit on doctor's numbers is self imposed to keep wages high, not because there aren't enough medical schools. Is the cost of medical labor rising as fast as medical costs? I was under the impression that the costs for supplies, equipment, and medicines are what has been growing so fast.
      • Re:Market solutions (Score:5, Interesting)

        by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @01:28PM (#57600482)

        I was under the impression that the costs for supplies, equipment, and medicines are what has been growing so fast.

        The biggest contributor to rising medical costs is administration. Many clinics and hospitals have more people dealing with insurance and regulatory compliance forms than treating patients.

        The second biggest contributor is big ticket equipment. It is questionable how much value these bring. When hospitals install MRI machines, costing millions of dollars each, there is no measurable improvement in patient outcomes.

    • the only one I ever hear is making it harder to sue for malpractice. I'm not sure if that's a good idea or not, and I mean that. It's a complicated topic. OTOH I'd love to be able to buy drugs from Canada (since they've got single payer they pay less) and have the Gov't negotiate lower drug prices for Medicare.

      Speaking of which what I really want is to expand Medicare to everyone. It's got over 95% efficiency and similar programs work in every country they've been tried. Not like our insurance industrie
    • It will get cheaper, we promise. It’s cheaper in Iceland (or somewhere — it doesn't matter where) so we can magically make the US into Iceland, grab all the benefits of the system in Iceland, with none of the drawbacks. Nothing bad could possibly happen from our schemes. And if it does, it's because the bogeymen on the other team, because we didn't throw that extra $1 Billion on the fire, because these deplorable people can't be governed, or because of bad luck.

      • by meglon ( 1001833 )
        You're still a fucking cunt, no matter how much snark you try to use. Quit being such a fucking idiot.
        • by Kohath ( 38547 )

          You believed in the magic stories, didn't you? Santa won't be giving you that pony.

    • by e3m4n ( 947977 )

      well the did recently roll back a regulation that prevented a pharmacist from telling you that there was a cheaper way to get the same drug your paying for. (example those $4 and $7 prescriptions at walmart are cheaper than a $20 copay). But nobody noticed. Half the time I think trump gets on twitter to say stupid shit to get the media spun up so they can create conflict about this particular repeal, or kushner going to iran, etc. Its probably the only way to get shit done. Its in the media's best interest

      • by e3m4n ( 947977 )

        should say 'cant create conflict'

        s/"media spun up so they can create conflict "/"media spun up so they can't create conflict"/

  • Beg to differ (Score:2, Flamebait)

    by PopeRatzo ( 965947 )

    In These Eight Midterms Races, Health and Medicine Are Front and Center

    This is fake news. I saw Hair Furor on the TV last night and he said the only thing on the ballot is him.

    • This is fake news. I saw Hair Furor on the TV last night and he said the only thing on the ballot is him.

      And he is only saying that because the Democrats said it first. In fact, he is probably annoyed it didn't occur to him to say it first.

    • by e3m4n ( 947977 )

      its Herr Fuhrer, at least spell it right ;-)

  • CNN (Score:3, Insightful)

    by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @01:01PM (#57600270) Homepage Journal
    What is this? CNN?
    • by Kohath ( 38547 )

      What is this? CNN?

      If it was CNN, they'd be connecting dots between medical care and Russian election hacking, with Stormy Daniel's lawyer weighing in on both.

    • by skam240 ( 789197 ) on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @07:37PM (#57603392)

      What is this? It's "stuff that matters"

      Many Americans are of the opinion that proper healthcare isn't something people should have to go bankrupt over. Only one party has even attempted to approach this issue in the last 2 decades that a majority of Americans very much care about. The other party simply wants to blindly move forward in a system that is clearly broken.

      And by broken I mean spending twice or more per capita than any other first world country spends on its socialized medicine.

      Sure what the Democrats have done so far is middling at best but it's still far better than business as usual for a failing system.

  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @01:05PM (#57600306)
    I've got friends and family that depend on pre-existing condition coverage. Plus I've got friends stuck in dead end jobs because they can't go 90 days without healthcare (one of them tried to get Cobra and found out that it's damn near impossible to sign up for, at least with his old company. He's just had to live without health insurance for 90 days).

    I want Medicare for All. Saves money, works in every country that tried it and covers everyone. 45,000 Americans die of treatable illnesses every year. I don't want to be one of them.
    • I want Medicare for All. Saves money, works in every country that tried it and covers everyone. 45,000 Americans die of treatable illnesses every year. I don't want to be one of them.

      45,000 you say?

      200,000 - 400,000 deaths occur every year in the United States due to medical error. It's considered one of our top leading causes of death now. And we question why people tend to avoid hospitals?

      Be careful what you ask for. You just might get it.

      • to distract from the issue. We can't easily make those deaths go away. We could make those 45,000 death stop tomorrow. Just like Canada did. And the UK. And France. The Netherlands. Sweden. Germany. The list goes on. We are choosing to let these people die. And you could be next. Get sick, lose your job, lose your healthcare. Die. It happens 45,000 times every year. Every 11 minutes.
      • by skam240 ( 789197 )

        How would that be worse under medicare for all?

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Kohath ( 38547 )

      Of course you want more benefits than you are willing to pay for. Someone else will pay. Fuck them.

      • by judoguy ( 534886 )

        Of course you want more benefits than you are willing to pay for. Someone else will pay. Fuck them.

        That is the exact definition of "preexisting condition" , i.e., A chronic health problem that someone has and wants someone else to pay for.

      • maybe I don't. See, that's how healthcare works. You don't know you're going to need it until you do. So it makes sense to have a large risk pool. Otherwise when you, Kohath, get lung cancer from genetics and poor air quality in your city then your company runs out of money before you're cured and you get to die. They find a way to stop paying.

        If all else fails they hassle the doctor until he gives up and stops prescribing you your meds. It's called the "Wallet Biopsy", your doc will silently (perhaps u
  • by Only Time Will Tell ( 5213883 ) on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @01:32PM (#57600514)
    There has been a lot of discussion and action at the state level around the legalization of medical use of marijuana (or full-blown recreational use in a few states), but I haven't heard much about U.S. Congress representative candidates, yet alone senators, supporting it. Has anyone heard of, or does your candidate support, bringing up a bill on the federal level to bring consensus around medical use nationally? In Indiana, the state legislators have essentially punted on the idea. They held a special committee over the summer to study the issue, with families and doctors coming forward to speak about the benefits. But in the end, the committee decided it would provide no recommendation, and several state politicians seem to want to defer to the U.S. Congress to act. I don't really have a dog in this race, but do believe it can provide a lot of benefit to patients, let alone stop ridiculous jailing and prosecuting of those who choose to use.
    • Interesting. In Missouri, I only just found out a few days ago that there are THREE medical MJ items on the ballot, two that change the state Constitution and one that is a law change.

      Only one can win (per a couple of articles I've been reading).

      Everyone against such will vote no on all three. Other people might have a favorite (and split the votes that are in favor).

      No news coverage, no politician mention, nothing. Silence. A couple of medical groups and police associations have put forth opinions (for

  • I find myself curious as to how the Governor of Wisconsin expects to get drug costs down.

    It's not like he can force drug companies to give him lower prices due to the massive market that Wisconsin represents. A stupid cap on drug prices in Wisconsin will just cause drug companies to shrug and stop selling there....

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