Democratic National Committee Says Hackers Unsuccessfully Targeted Voter Database (cnn.com) 150
The Democratic National Committee contacted the FBI on Tuesday after it detected what it believes was the beginning of a sophisticated attempt to hack into its voter database, a Democratic source tells CNN. From a report: The DNC was alerted in the early hours of Tuesday morning by a cloud service provider and a security research firm that a fake login page had been created in an attempt to gather usernames and passwords that would allow access to the party's database, the source said. The page was designed to look like the access page Democratic Party officials and campaigns across the country use to log into a service called Votebuilder, which hosts the database, the source said, adding the DNC believed it was designed to trick people into handing over their login details. The source said the DNC is investigating who may have been responsible for the attempted attack, but that it has no reason to believe its voter file was accessed or altered.
Look ma, look what I did (Score:3)
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Cohen hasn't flipped on Trump yet. There is actually no cooperation deal on the Russian thing which the prosecutors have made clear.
What Cohen has done is pleaded guilty to bank fraud and campaign finance reporting violations, presumably for a reduction in the 65 years of prison time he was facing.
This implications for this vis-a-vis the president is that this is the first time the Trump campaign, and the president himself, has been connected to a crime in court. However I doubt those implications are poli
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Cohen hasn't flipped on Trump yet.
Cohen would not accept a pardon from Trump, if offered, Davis said. “Not only is he not hoping for it, he would not accept a pardon. He considers a pardon from somebody who has acted so corruptly as the president to be something he would never accept,” Davis told NBC on Wednesday. -- LA Times [latimes.com]
It certainly looks like a flip to me.
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Sounds like posturing. We'll know if the pardon is actually proffered, which it shouldn't be if Trump knows what's good for him.
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It's had plenty of effect on US politics, what are you talking about? If this doesn't pan out for the Democrats, it will be their Benghazi moment. You know, the topic that will go on for years and ultimately produce nothing. They really need SOMETHING to stick, so Mueller better come up with something that will stick.
why bother? (Score:2)
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Seems like a lot of work (Score:5, Interesting)
The page was designed to look like the access page Democratic Party officials and campaigns across the country use to log into a service called Votebuilder, which hosts the database, the source said, adding the DNC believed it was designed to trick people into handing over their login details.
As recent history shows, Democratic operatives choose weak passwords ('password') and offer them up readily when asked for them via email from strangers...
I'm looking at you, Jon Podesta, former campaign director of Hillary 2016.
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Look pal. Have you gotten permission from CNN to look at the wikileaks on this? After all only journalists are allowed to do that.
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The page was designed to look like the access page Democratic Party officials and campaigns across the country use to log into a service called Votebuilder, which hosts the database, the source said, adding the DNC believed it was designed to trick people into handing over their login details.
As recent history shows, Democratic operatives choose weak passwords ('password') and offer them up readily when asked for them via email from strangers...
I'm looking at you, Jon Podesta, former campaign director of Hillary 2016.
They learned from that. Their new password is "Password1" Note that this has year 2000 improvements. One capital letter and a number. No one could guess that one.
Just wait, in 6 months we'll find out that they really did set it to Password1. They're politicians after all. No brains required.
Oh NOW they want the FBI's help (Score:5, Informative)
Back in 2015 and 2016 the DNC poo-poo'd FBI and other agencies that tried to alert them that they were the targets of concerted hacking efforts.
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And he deserves life in prison, if not the gallows for treason
For the crime of, what, exactly?
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Back in 2015 and 2016 the DNC poo-poo'd FBI and other agencies that tried to alert them that they were the targets of concerted hacking efforts.
If that's the case then wouldn't you say it's a good thing that they have learned from their mistakes?
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How it happend (Score:2)
Say it with me now... (Score:1)
two factor authentication. two factor authentication. TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION!!!!!!
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I get Chuck Norris to vouch for me - tough actor authentication.
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Chuck Norris doesn't need to sign in to a computer system. He just stares at it and it surrenders. Immediately. Chuck Norris has never needed a password, ever.
So? (Score:3)
What's so special about hackers targeting valuable data? Can you imagine being alerted everytime that happens?
Or is it that they are so proud they protected against this one that they want a pat on the back?
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What's so special about hackers targeting valuable data? Can you imagine being alerted everytime that happens? Or is it that they are so proud they protected against this one that they want a pat on the back?
Stop challenging the narrative. Can't you see this proves Trump/Russia collusion!?
DNC Database (Score:2)
I see dead people.
Like they'd know (Score:2)
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What's in the database? Sources? (Score:2)
I wonder how much Cambridge Analytics data they have in this database?
O, Rly? (Score:1)
According to the DNC Russian hackers had no problem doing this before.
No evidence, of course - it's CNN (Score:2)
DNC servers have never been inspected any US intelligence agency.
We are just supposed to take their words for it, because they are so honest.
And this comes from CNN - the most laughable fake name in news.
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Mueller will even find stuff that isn't there (Score:2)
> Don't worry, if there is something, Mueller has it.
And even if there isn't something, he still has it. Mueller deserves to be tried as a war criminal for helping start the Iraq war, by lying about "weapons of mass destruction". See
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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He could also get an aneurysm and die.
Old, fat and ill-tempered is not a good combination.
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There is no "against the United States" aspect to the charges, it's simply lobbying on "behalf" of a foreign power without registering. Foreign lobbying probably makes up 50% or more of what goes on in Washington and a very large portion of that is unregistered. Violations of the registration regulations are rarely prosecuted and most times the person can simply retroactively register. It's basically the 'fix-it' ticket of the political world. I remember seeing reports of a large uptick in retroactive re
Re:Non-story (Score:5, Informative)
Well, since you brought the president up, his August 5 tweet [twitter.com] pretty much admits the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting of June 9 2016 was to solicit campaign aid from a foreign intelligence service -- to coin a phrase, to "collude" with the Russians. The claim now is that it was perfectly legal to do that (experts disagree).
The story about that meeting has changed so frequently I don't blame you if you missed that particular entry.
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What did Cohen corroborate? That he paid off a porn star and was then repaid by Trump?
If you're trying to refer to the Trump tower meeting, although it's been reported Cohen had knowledge of Trump involvement, both his Senate and House testimony as well as his own lawyer statements claim that he has no knowledge about Trump's involvement. Apparently it was all just another CNN fever dream and since no one in todays news offices ever bothers to corroborate anything or look for original sources the circle je
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Haha! Go for it, but at least be honest enough to post as anything other than AC....
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I ran a private email server for the family (not Hillary Clinton) back in the late 90s - early 00s and was constantly being probed to try to crack the SMTP password. Had one guy make about one attempt every minute with a new password from some stock dictionary of common passwords. I wasn't concerned about anyone figuring that out (it was a large password) but finally threw in the towel after somebody spoofed one of the email addresses and sent out a ton of spam on behalf of it and I ended up on some black lists. It's worth $12/year just to let my registrar handle it now!
Most blacklists are more sophisticated now. Nobody blacklists you for having one of your return addresses on a batch of spam. Everyone knows that spammers forge return addresses.
I've run a couple mail servers for many years and it's always cat and mouse with spammers. I use fail2ban and any IP that triggers fail2ban more than once is permanently dropped into my firewall rules for all ports. Obvious password guessers don't get a second chance. If I get multiple hits from the same CIDR block, I drop t
Untargeted vs Targeted (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Oh puhlease! (Score:4, Insightful)
While not a sophisticated attack, a mocked up login portal is much more targeted than the bots that scrape the internet to look for open ports.
This is something in between what the article implies (some sort of high-tech conspiracy hacking attack) and what you're saying (dumb vulnerability scanners in the wild).
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Re: Oh puhlease! (Score:2)
It's nothing new, it's hardly newsworthy, it's just something that happens.
The claim isn't that they were hacked, it's that someone created a clone of their login page on a common typo of their website URL.
It's like your local newspaper putting a headline on the front page: "Bank break-in attempted" when their security cameras show someone walked past the bank front door and 'tested the lock'.
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It's like your local newspaper putting a headline on the front page: "Bank break-in attempted" when their security cameras show someone walked past the bank front door and 'tested the lock'.
Analogy fail. It's more like someone created a copy of the bank's front door, in order to trick a bank employee to insert their key so it could be copied.
And let's not forget TFH: the hack was "unsuccessful."
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Yeah, except the integrity of an election
This has nothing to do with anything relating to the election, this is a contact database of registered voters - if hackers managed to delete any/all the records in the database it wouldn't impact a single voter, it wouldn't prevent anyone from voting.
The DNC is a private organization, not a branch of government.
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Pretty much (Score:1)
Give it a break liberals. Hacking isn't new nor is it infrequent.
So because it's not new nor infrequent, there's no value in reporting it?
Pretty much.
Can you think of anything that's common and has happened for a long time that's newsworthy?
You *might* get by with "not commonly known", but I think reports of hacking don't qualify for that - especially on this site.
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Good to know that an AC who is afraid to post under his own name is telling me all about "phishing" when the headline is talking about "hacking" There's a difference there Mr. Smart AC!
I'm gonna go out on a limb here (Score:2, Interesting)
The hacking of the DNC really ought to be a bigger scandal than it was, and if our media was doing it's job of investigative journalism it would be. There's strong evidence that the Russians got ahold of voter rolls and send them on to the Republican party and/or the Trump campaign. There was a sudden shift in the Trump campaign's ad buys and campaigning where it became highly effective for no disce
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Aren't voter rolls public knowledge in the US. All most States require is a service fee to get access and I'm assuming all political parties routinely pay those fees to get access to the breakdowns in each state and district.
The information usually contained in the parties databases is actual contact information like email addresses and I haven't seen any wide scale reports of registered Democrats suddenly receiving targeted political blasts from Trump during the last Presidential election. Hell the only
Not at that level of detail (Score:2)
Over 100,000 voters in Brookylyn got purged (Score:1)
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The hacking of the DNC really ought to be a bigger scandal than it was, and if our media was doing it's job of investigative journalism it would be.
Why? The DNC is a private organization, hacking the DNC did little more than embarrass people that claimed one thing but did another.
There's strong evidence that the Russians got ahold of voter rolls and send them on to the Republican party and/or the Trump campaign.
Do you know how dumb that sounds? The "voter rolls" are freely available to anyone that is willing to pay the local registrar of voters the reproduction fee, there's no need to set up an elaborate cyber attack to "steal' another party's private copy of public information.
There was a sudden shift in the Trump campaign's ad buys and campaigning where it became highly effective for no discernible reason, and it was right around when the hack happened....
Right, the only way the Trump campaign could gain traction is by working with the Russians, stealing the DN
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Spot on, except that the rules for getting a copy of the voter roll varies from state to state, and not all of them allow just anyone to have a copy. My state, Virginia, only permits people with a legitimate electoral purpose to get a copy, for example.
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Back in the mid-90s the first time I turned on ZoneAlarm I was getting a break-in attempt about once every 5 seconds on my IP address.
Today, in 2018, I see hackers attempting to hack my website multiple times daily.
Give it a break liberals. Hacking isn't new nor is it infrequent.
Yep. I run my own Nextcloud as a private server on a different port. I get e-mails from fail2ban about hack attempts. Mostly from China. Nothing new. Just long as security measures such as securing the admin accounts and alerts are in place you're fine.
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It's not a conspiracy theory though, Trump is Putin's agent. Ask him, he won't disabuse you of that fact. He'll get on stage on TV and pardon Putin for war crimes - and has.
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Yeah and they had Hillary as a shill in the DNC.
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I would assume the RNC and other national political bodies are targeted. They simply choose not to disclose the attacks publicly.
I doubt my employer would disclose any hacking---attempted or successful---unless legally required to do so.
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Yes. RNC just happened to survive it the first time [wsj.com].
Perhaps, because they run a tighter ship, so to speak...
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The DNC was hacked and the results leaked to sway the election.
The RNC was hacked and those documents are being sat on. Why, I wonder?
Blackmail, perhaps?
The GOP are fucking traitors, is the short answer.
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The article I linked to [wsj.com] says, the attack on the RNC failed. The organization was not hacked. Why, I wonder, would you misrepresent the facts this way?
Funny, how you assume, internal documents must always be embarrassing. Kinda reveals your opinion of the organizations you know from the inside :-)
That you are either a moron unable to comprehend fairly basic English, or a liar hoping to
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DNC is revving up their excuses for losing bigly in 2018 midterm elections. I'm certain they're stupid enough to try blaming their incompetence on Russia again.
Muh Russia intensifies
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From the sound of the article, it appears to be a targeted attack on the system, vs just a general blanket attack on all things computery.
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You know how dead people wind up being registered to vote? They register to vote when they're alive ... and then they die. That's not voter fraud.
There are lots of people (1.8 million?) who are registered to vote and who are dead. But dead people voting? Not so much. Voter impersonation is almost nonexistent.
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The confidential information that these servers hold doesn't really have anything to do with voter registration, that's public knowledge (with a fee in some States) it's the contact and donation histories of party members.
So the voter registrations show Sally Joe is a registered "D" but the Dem database shows Sally also gives the max political donation to both state and federal candidates each election cycle and possibly some Democrat PACs as well. To some people that could be useful information but it's p
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it's the contact and donation histories of party members
You mean the donations that the DNC reported to the FEC and are available to anyone interested in learning about by simply accessing their public website?
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Well, maybe it's BS. Depends on how big of a deal piracy is to you. If Russia is pirating these databases for ~$375*50 that's nearly $20k dollars.
How much is that in RIAA dollars? This could be a very serious crime, like downloading a 1970s AC/DC album from a Russian server, thereby removing the musicians' incentive to have rocked out. Do you want Bon Scott to have banged Rosie in vain? So let's not be premature with the BS