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The Trump Administration Has Announced the End of DACA -- Unless Congress Can Act To Save It ( 817

The Trump administration said on Tuesday it plans to scrap a program that allows about 800,000 undocumented immigrants who came to the US as children to stay and work in the country, shrugging off criticism from within the president's own party and prominent business figures. From a report: The Trump administration is essentially leaving Congress a six-month window of time to try to save it. The legal shield is known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, and since its enactment in 2012, it has allowed roughly 800,000 undocumented young adults to live in the United States and obtain work authorizations every two years. [...] In practice, implementation is complicated. Those previously approved under DACA, with the permission to work in the United States, can continue to work without interruption until those approvals expire. And those who have already applied for protection or are seeking renewals will still have their applications considered by the U.S. government. For those whose permits are set to expire before March 5, 2018, though, the U.S. government will also allow them to renew their DACA status -- provided their applications are received before Oct. 5, 2017. Currently, there are about 201,000 young adults whose authorizations are set to expire this year, officials at the Department of Homeland Security explained Tuesday.

Tech giants like Apple, Facebook and Google are no doubt going to blast the Trump administration's decision: Last week, those executives joined more than 400 other business leaders in calling on the president to preserve DACA. Apple CEO Tim Cook, who previously (and privately) pressed Trump on the issue, said on Sunday that 250 of his "co-workers" would be affected by the change. Microsoft indicated that about 27 workers spanning fields like finance and sales would be hurt from Trump's move.
Zuckerberg said, "This is a sad day for our country. The decision to end DACA is not just wrong. It is particularly cruel to offer young people the American Dream, encourage them to come out of the shadows and trust our government, and then punish them for it."
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The Trump Administration Has Announced the End of DACA -- Unless Congress Can Act To Save It

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  • Global problem (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fluffernutter ( 1411889 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:05PM (#55141187)
    Funny how American companies not being able to find enough affordable workers is a 'global problem', yet people not being able to find clean drinking water, enough food to eat, and/or safety from violence and corrupt governments is a 'them' problem.
    • Re:Global problem (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:13PM (#55141249)

      There are plenty of people for the work corporations require. What there is not is people that will work for the lower pay corporations desire.

      Europe is being destroyed with the race to the bottom, much to the delight of the elite, wealthy, and virtual signalling celebrities in their 99.999% white communities of mansions.

    • Re:Global problem (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Brett Buck ( 811747 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:18PM (#55141277)

      Why do you think that nobody cares about clean water and food? The problem is a local problem, solved by removing the people involved in preventing these things (which are otherwise easy to provide) from happening.

              If we wanted, we could invade Africa, one country at a time, kill all the warlords, take away all the guns and provide all the necessary items. That was the idea in Somalia, and it is the correct and probably only workable idea for accomplishing that. But some asshole on Slashdot would be on whining about "imperialism" or us trying to be the world's policemen, which would eventually stop it.

              Most people I know *do* care, deeply, about these situations, but also know that the things required to resolve them - the real solution, not some idiot idealistic hippie crap about a world without hate - would just bring us a world of grief from the various "more sophisticated" people of the world, who would rather have candlelight vigils and benefit concerts to make themselves feel better, but accomplish nothing.

  • TRUMP FTW! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    With all those pesky immigrant children out of the job pool I can finally become a farm-hand! MAGA!

  • We were supposed to motivate the next round of illegal aliens!
  • I'm reserving judgement on this one.
  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:08PM (#55141213)
    and they'll get slaughtered in their primaries if they come to DACA's defense. It's the same problem they had with Obamacare but worse since in that case they could at least try to repeal it.
    • by halivar ( 535827 ) <bfelger AT gmail DOT com> on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:13PM (#55141247)

      Even more so: to save the ACA, Republicans can simply do nothing (and they are). To save DACA, they must by means of legislation affirmatively extend it or make it permanent. Not happening.

      • by UnknowingFool ( 672806 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:17PM (#55141273)
        Yes, this Congress seems capable of doing nothing even though the GoP has control of both houses.
        • by cayenne8 ( 626475 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:20PM (#55141299) Homepage Journal

          Yes, this Congress seems capable of doing nothing even though the GoP has control of both houses.

          I hear ya...I had thought that the HPA or the Shush Act that would take suppressors off the NFA list and make them easier to attain (without long ATF paperwork and $200 tax stamp) and use by now.

          But no...damned republicans can't seem to get shit done even with majority in both houses.

          • The Republican party is happy to fail at pretty much everything on their platform so long as doing so is the best way to maintain power.

            Which likely means they're getting SOMETHING out of it and most of us just aren't seeing it or understanding the significance of what we're seeing.

            Even my most negative assessment of politicians in general doesn't have them seeking high office for the sake of it. They want something, it's just not necessarily what they say they want, what they promise to do, or what they a

        • by sl3xd ( 111641 )

          A big problem there is the Republicans seem completely unwilling to engage in bipartisanship -- in fact, the threat of bipartisanship was used by Mitch McConnell to try to get Republicans to fall in line.

          I'm not saying the Democrats are any better, but it definitely seems the Republicans idea of bipartisanship is demanding Democratic capitulation, rather than any sort of compromise on their part.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      I thought the problem with Obamacare was too many Republicans worried that the will lose the next election because so many of their constituents will lose their healthcare or have costs rocket up.

    • by computational super ( 740265 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:23PM (#55141321)
      Yep, what I see are the most gutless of the gutless politicians moaning about how much they'd "really like to save this program and really don't support the president in this" while actually not doing any of the things that are within their power to actually save it so they can try to appeal to both sides simultaneously. In other words, politics as usual. At least Trump has been honest.
    • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

      Even Paul Ryan has spoken out against this. He's not Jeff Sessions, but he's also not the poster-boy for human compassion and tolerance toward anyone and anything he disagrees with. Ryan speaks of human compassion, of understanding, of the circumstances of a teenager being brought with parents to this country and growing up as an American. These are weighty things we must consider.

      These people are here, they're working in our economy, and ejecting them is disruptive and costly. They've been around lo

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:15PM (#55141267)

    Pesky pen and phone isn't exactly the same as actually passing a law, eh?

    And we won't even talk about the blatant constitutional issues around a pResident implementing a policy that ignores established law.

    • by Tailhook ( 98486 )

      This. Right here.

      All Trump has done is obligate Congress to perform its duty; if the (R)s and whatever (D)s that care to join them wish to express their beltway "values" they can write a damn bill and pass it.

  • by xxxJonBoyxxx ( 565205 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:21PM (#55141303)
    It sounds like DACA was just a regulatory statement from the previous head of the executive branch. If so, it seems the current president can kill it, and is being extra-nice by at least offering a grace period.

    If you want things with the force of law, well then, pass LAWS, right?
  • Don't like the law ? (Score:5, Informative)

    by RedK ( 112790 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:22PM (#55141305)

    Change the law.

    Simple concept. Executive orders to selectively enforce or refuse to enforce certain laws on the books are not sustainable models of immigration.

    The Executive Branch does not make laws. DACA was a travesty of the seperation of powers, with the Executive Branch appointing itself powers of the Legislative Branch. Ending it is the right choice.

  • Hands tied? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by brianerst ( 549609 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:30PM (#55141367) Homepage

    Unfortunately, even the people who drafted DACA [] admit that Trump's in a bind here because the order is unconstitutional.

    10 state sttorneys general gave Trump a September 5 deadline for ending DACA or they would sue to get it overturned. This same group had DAPA (the parental version) thrown out due to unconstitutionality and the argument against DACA is essentially identical. They would win in court, barring a reversal by the Supreme Court. The SC split 4-4 on DAPA, so the Appeals Court 2-1 against is the law of the land and no one expects that Gorsuch would find DACA constitutional.

    Any dispassionate look at DACA sees that it's plainly unconstitutional. Unlike orders that deferred or gave a low priority to enforcement of immigration laws, DACA actually grants (temporary) legal status with no legal basis. Any attempt to find otherwise is really ends-oriented. Plenty of that sort of thing on both sides - but this would be really bad precedent.

    The truly sad thing is that the "Dreamers" have supporters on both sides of the aisle - Republicans are pretty sympathetic to their plight as well. But, like anything, politics gets in the way - Democrats want a "clean" Dreamer bill while Republicans want something in return (either wall funding or mandatory e-Verify). Neither side is budging much at the moment (there are a few bipartisan bills out there, but each of the main conferences are waiting).

    I don't tend to expect much from Trump (other than crazy uncle-style Tweeting at all hours) but even he seems to want to do something for the Dreamers. Hopefully, a deal can get done soon.

    • I don't tend to expect much from Trump (other than crazy uncle-style Tweeting at all hours) but even he seems to want to do something for the Dreamers. Hopefully, a deal can get done soon.

      I don't know how you can seriously believe that. This is just red meat for his supporters, just like talk about The Wall is. One of the things about Trump is that he's actually pretty smart and I think everything he does is according to a plan, it's just not always a good plan and it doesn't always work. He knows full well that Congress will never, ever, pass a law on this for the reasons stated by others here - Republicans who do so will lose in the primaries and Democrats will have to give up something

    • either wall funding or mandatory e-Verify

      The last thing Republicans want is e-verify. Republican's secretly love our broken system. It makes their labor easier to exploit and keeps down wages. Mandatory e-verify would destroy the agricultural industry as is it.

      Not that that would be a bad thing.

      The local farmers where I am were all in for Trump, putting giant billboard-sized Trump signs in all of their fields. Now they are crying fowl because of labor shortages.

  • by SensitiveMale ( 155605 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:31PM (#55141377)

    Obama simply said "We're not going to prosecute these people." That's a huge Constitutional overreach.
    If Obama & the Democrats wanted to make this permanent, they would have made it a law. But Obama & Democrats didn't care enough to make it a law. Obama wanted the political win without having to expend political capital & the Democrats in Congress didn't want a public vote.

  • Obama never had the authority to implement DACA in the first place. Whether you like DACA as a policy or not, DACA undermines the rule of law, and that has disastrous consequences in the long run.

    Trump's decision is a reasonable compromise: he is giving Congress six months to do what it should have done in the first place, namely define, in law, immigration policy for childhood arrivals.

  • by thrillseeker ( 518224 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:39PM (#55141435)
    ... since this was enacted by Administrative decree, and they sat on their ass about it the whole time. And now they want to "do something" to prove their relevance? Yeah ... no.
  • by Solandri ( 704621 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @01:44PM (#55141939)

    Apple CEO Tim Cook, who previously (and privately) pressed Trump on the issue, said on Sunday that 250 of his "co-workers" would be affected by the change.

    So he's basically admitted that Apple has hired illegal aliens. (Or if you prefer, non-citizens without proper work authorization documents.) That's a violation of Federal law punishable by fines and imprisonment [].

    The DACA wasn't a law. It was just the Obama administration saying they wouldn't prosecute for violations of the actual law which mandates fines for hiring non-citizens without Federal work permits. The law is still there, and Cook has now admitted in public that his company is knowingly in violation of it. If he'd kept his mouth shut and only expressed an opinion, he could've feigned ignorance and kept the affected workers in Apple's payroll. But because he tried to publicly use their plight as leverage, he's now put himself into a position where Apple has to fire them or face fines and imprisonment.

  • by jasontromm ( 39097 ) * <> on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @02:05PM (#55142137) Homepage Journal

    So basically everybody is getting upset with Doland Trump for ending DACA, but that's not what he's doing. He's saying, "Congress, DO YOUR JOB!" Obama's executive action was unconstitutional. 'Repealing" DACA is completely legal.

To do two things at once is to do neither. -- Publilius Syrus