Russia Behind Cyber-attack, Says Ukraine's Security Service (bbc.com) 88
Ukraine says it has discovered who the perpetrators of last week's destructive ransomware attack are. From a report: Ukraine says it has proof that Russian security services were involved in the cyber-attack that targeted businesses around the world last week. The country's security service, the SBU, said it had obtained data that points to a link with an attack on the nation's capital, Kiev, in December. Ukrainian firms were among the first to report issues with malicious software on Tuesday, before the virus spread. Moscow denied any involvement, adding that the allegations were "unfounded".
The virus, which disrupted IT systems across the globe, froze computers and demanded a ransom be paid in the digital currency Bitcoin, which is untraceable. Further reading: The Petya Ransomware Is Starting To Look Like a Cyberattack in Disguise.
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At the same time, the US government's report on Russian 'hacking the election' relied heavily on the fact that 'the attacks were similar to how Russia normally operates cyberattacks." And yet, the Ukrainian attacks are quite different than the ones on the DNC.
Re: Cue treasonous denial of reality in 3.2.1. (Score:2)
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No, you've got it completely backwards, as well as mixing up the various times the Dems go hacked. The Cyrillic characters were from the Guccifer 2.0 leaks, along with a commie hero username or something along those lines.
The Podesta emails were unaltered (and many were DKIM verified), but Sputnik inaccurately reported that an email excerpt from Eichenwald in an email sent by Blumenthal was written by Blumenthal herself, after which they deleted it. Then, American news outlets used that to claim that the emails themselves were altered, because that's way scarier than Russian sites missing a 'by' in an email and reporting sloppily.
Re:Cue treasonous denial of reality in 3.2.1. (Score:4, Insightful)
Even while we're picking up the pieces of the farce that was the 2016 election, and while we're investigating and uncovering the conspiracy and outside influences, and (with any luck, closing the holes that allowed it to happen), then repairing the damage the Trump 'administration' is causing to this country and it's reputation with the rest of the free world (if that's even possible in our lifetime at this point), there's a bigger concern: containing Vladimir Putin and his ambitions of empire. If it's not exceedingly clear to anyone at this point that Putin wants to build a new Russian empire, then you're either not paying attention, or you're in deep denial. The invasion of Crimea was just a proof-of-concept, to see if he would be allowed to get away with it ('achievement unlocked', apparently). The meddling and hacking of the 2016 U.S. election, and other elections in various countries, is helping lay the groundwork for further Russian military actions in the EU, by installing leadership in key NATO countries that will be more sympathetic to Putin and Russia (or just plain more easily manipulated). I'd imagine the next big-ticket item on his to-do list will be to dismantle NATO, or at least weaken it to the point where it's ineffective. Influencing/hacking the BrExit vote helps to destabilize the EU, which in turn will help destabilize NATO. France is another big piece of the puzzle, and it's unclear to me whether or not Macron would ultimately be a help or a hindrance to Russia; I'm leaning towards Macron being a hindrance. The ongoing war in Syria, and the continual stream of refugees from that country, is also a further destabilizing force in EU countries, especially Germany; does anyone actually think that Putin actually likes Assad? Assad is a butcher, plain and simple, waging a war of extermination against his own citizens; even Putin must have to hold his nose when dealing with Assad, and the Syrian conflict and Assad are just more tools for Putin to use. Daesh (so-called 'Islamic State'), for all we know, might even be getting some clandestine support from Putin, just because they've been so good at destabilizing the entire region; even I would lean away from this however because of how over-the-top, savagely, animalistically violent Daesh has been; they have NO friends anywhere. Even Al-Qaeda distanced themselves from them as 'too extreme'. More likely, Putin is using Daesh as an excuse to 'help' Syria, and is playing off the refugee crisis it's causing, as distraction for everything else going on (like the invasion of Crimea, for instance, and continual cyberattacks, which are masquerading as 'cyber crime').
Oh, and one more thing: don't blame most of the people who (actually) voted for Trump; in the parlance of the old Soviet Union, they're just 'useful idiots', whether they knew who and what they were voting for or not. The sad truth is that most U.S. voters really don't have (or can't have) a full enough grasp of the Big Picture to really kn
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What about the damage that Obama did? You don't seem concerned by that much...
Your true colors shine...
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Don't be so negative. Korea was an honourable draw.
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The Russians ate my homework... (Score:4, Funny)
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4. ??? 5. Blame DPRK.
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6. Wait for Slashdot to remind everyone that EternalBlue was developed, and lost, by the NSA.
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Re:The Russians ate my homework... (Score:4, Insightful)
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I, personally, DO think that Putin/Russia is involved in all sorts of things, NOT JUST meddling in our 2016 Presidential election. But it's kind of hard to be heard over an angry mob of 150,000,000 people who think that everything that doesn't fit neatly into their world-view is 'fake news', and who likely think that even Senate investigations in
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The way the Senate investigations are so far only investigating things that are not a crime. It is not a crime for American's to talk to the Russians. Everything they are investigating happened when Trump and those close to him were private US citizens and not government officials. So far the entire investigation has produced only vague innuendo with no evidential proof of a crime. Everyone involved in the investigations have already acknowledged that there is no evidence of vote tampering during the electi
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1. Wait for something bad to happen. 2. Blame it on Russia. 3. Ask the US for money.
Well, let's see.
1. Russia and Ukraine are essentially at war.
2. Russia is one of the most capable countries when it comes to electronic espionage.
3. Russia has already been waging this campaign against Ukraine for years now. See Andy Greenberg's recent Wired article [wired.com]. The intrusions are well-documented.
Re:The Russians ate my homework... (Score:4, Insightful)
The article's central message is plausible: Russia running a cyberwar against Ukraine and at the same time trying to build up knowhow. But at the same time the author knows that he can write anything about Russia and it will be believed. At the same time the story is part of a large anti-Russia and anti Trump campaign.
I don't keep track so I don't have a lot of links ready but I know the news about a russian cyberattack on US powerplant was bogus. Russian hacking of DNC was bogus.Russian-Trump links are bogus. Russian hacking of french elections was bogus. But these debunkings only come through very slowly. On the other side there is a barrage of claims that is so overwhelming nobody can begin to debunk them.
And I see good reasons why the democrats and the military industrical complex prefer to have high tensions with Russia and why they want to blame Russia for the failed elections. And I see why the press goes along with it.
And I think that whatever Russia is doing(a lot less than claimed, but certainly a lot of business as usual nasty stuff) it's a good idea to improve the ties with them rather than deteriorate them. That is my opinion about policy. That it's in the west's interest. I also think they're open for chances for improvement , at least as long as Putin is there.
But look at this thread. It's almost unanimous against Russia. Any outsider looking here without any knowledge of the situation would know, this is bad. It means no good thinking will come out of it.(there's more reasons for that though). It also means propaganda is still very effective here and now.
So the article of the topic here may have a good degree of truth, but it's all part of an anti-russian frenzy which I think is a very bad idea.
Here's a new link about a lot of the hacking stories. It covers quite some ground. I'd have to dig for the rest. The ones I mentioned are some I'm pretty certain of although one can debate how convincing the proof is.
https://consortiumnews.com/201... [consortiumnews.com]
I didn't discuss Trump. I'd like to get rid of him but I'm convinced the current campaign to link him to Russia is extremely dishonest. He's right about that. Maybe he'll go down because in his efforts to stop them he'll do something very illegal. Or maybe he'll stay in power because he made the right friends. The Saudis and the weapons manufacturers for instance. Then all that the anti Russia campaign will have achieved is to give us the worst of both worlds. Thanks for cooperating everyone.
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it's a good idea to improve the ties with them rather than deteriorate them. That is my opinion about policy. That it's in the west's interest. I also think they're open for chances for improvement , at least as long as Putin is there.
Yes.
But look at this thread. It's almost unanimous against Russia.
It's not anti-Russia, it's anti-Trump. Russia is just the latest proxy for the true target of their wrath, which is the orange guy. They don't actually care about Russia at all.
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I could go along with that but narratives feed on each other. Russia IS the new bad guy again. Take away Trump and the Russia scare won't go away, and vice versa.
One reason Trump ran into a lot of resistance was because he was not interested in maintaining North Korea and Russia as enemies. By now any attempt at getting along with them amounts to treason, or proof he's been a stooge all along.
A reason Trump may survive is that he can be flexible in such things. If he just follows the money he may survive.
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Take away Trump and the Russia scare won't go away, and vice versa.
The Russia scare won't go away as long as it's perceived to be effective in winning votes.
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Yeah right, 'You can't trust him!' 'You can't trust him!' Trust him with what? If you're weak he'll take advantage of it, what's new in that? As opposed to whom?
But if you make an agreement you've got a good chance he'll stick to it.
I think Russia has legitimate interests But then I also think the same thing about North Korea. Putin is someone one can talk to but remove him and you'll get people who are very anti-western , who've given up on the west completely. It has to be said they have good reasons fo
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No, that was the original WannaCry outbreak. Petya is a repurposed version that exploits the same unpatched vulnerability. It first turned up in Ukraine though, IIRC, an update infected accounting software.
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Not only that, but the infected Ukrainian software MeDoc, was one of only 2 accounting packages which could be used by companies there. The other, made by the Russian company 1C, was banned by the Ukrainian government in May as part of sanctions against Russia for their invasion of Crimea.
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Putin forced Hillary to not campaign in the midwest? Wow, he's powerful. /s
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Cue the putinbots army (Score:1, Insightful)
Putinbots army in 3... 2... 1...
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Is it so inconceivable that mistrusting the mainstream narratives does not equal trust in Putin?
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+2 insightful for that?? This is what happens when you give retards mod points. Way to go, losers, you've completely trashed the moderation system on this board, requiring people to browse at -1 and ignore the moderation system entirely. If that was your goal, bravo, I guess.
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Ah yes, the "everyone who doesn't agree with me is part of an evil agenda" argument. (Captcha: coexists)
Russian companies were hit by that Petya thing (Score:2, Informative)
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Russia Behind Cyber-attack, Says Ukraine's Security Service
I think it's premature to jump to such conclusions since we know that our very own CIA has also been implicated...
Vault 7 [wikileaks.org] and more. [wired.com]
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You do realise that Russia is already under economic sanctions by the US and EU. It hurts them, but doesn't cripple them.
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My point stands. Half of warfare is economics. Now, I could go into how one targets Russian control structures and all the other fun things I learned during the Cold War II, but this is Cold War III and the simple take home is this:
Worried about Russia interfering? Build solar and wind yourself where you are.
This both shortens your supply lines and increases your resilience to Russian infrastructure attacks.
And cuts off their revenue.
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Yes, because that worked out so well against Japan in the 1930's.
Why do you want to pull the tiger's tail?
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Because we don't fear the bear.
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Hitler, Napoleon, and others have made that mistake...
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No, they invaded Russia.
Others invaded Afghanistan.
Neither is a wise choice. Said as some fellow soldiers I knew died in Afghanistan while the US bugged out to Iraq.
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Then you don't know your history...
Why did Japan bomb Pearl Harbor?
Now you want to do to Russia what the US did to Japan in the 1930's. Japan did not start the war with the US, the US started it with Japan.
Now you want to do the same with Russia.
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Exactly.When we're enthusiastically demonizing some party it means we're not scared of them. There have been exceptions, but that's long ago.
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Ukraine says... (Score:1)