Psiphon Now Available For Download 140
eldavojohn writes "Project Psiphon has been released for public download under the GPL. CNN has coverage of the Canadian research project that 'works by first allowing a person in a country like Canada that does not censor Internet content to set up a user name and a password for a person in a country that does — China, for example.' While this idea is certainly nothing new to Slashdot, the fact that software like Psiphon is becoming publicly available is interesting. For a quick simplified 'How it works,' Psiphon has a Flash demonstration." Not a moment too soon, apparently. China is moving to assign IDs to bloggers, to register their real identities and track their statements online.
I think this is great... (Score:1)
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"Great. Another thing we're going to have to figure out how to block at the school. This is just what we need: another app to help middle school students surf porn sites."
Yes, it has it's legitimate humanity-improving uses, but any kid in the US who reads
And do they really think China won't figure out how to stop this?
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Yep - I can think of at least one legitimate use for me. Working for a large nameless and faceless corporation, they do content filtering on the firewall and sometimes some suprising things get blocked. The FreeTDS [freetds.org] site was blocked for some dumb reason, for example. Being a UNIX system administrator, I do a lot of research on security and hacking methods (I wear a white hat, for sure) and frequently get blocked by the firewall because I'm looking up stuff on sites it labels as "hacking related". I mean, d
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Lovely moderation.
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I don't believe this will work, but at least it will cause a lot of trouble to them...
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Err, which USA do you live in? Nothing here is free, not even speech. And it's not the Dweeb Police (is that like the fashion police??) that tell you what to do - it's the lawmakers who write the laws, the police just enforce them.
That and I dont use windows so this makes it much easier to avoid security meausures..
Err, how is it easier to avoi
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Gee that flash video explained everything for me! (Score:5, Funny)
How to meet someone you trust enough? (Score:1)
Excellent! (Score:5, Interesting)
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I'm all for free-speech. I'm not all for free-speech that can bring risk of life to others in the military (directly).
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Yes, you certainly do have the right to free speech - but not when it infringes on other people's rights and physical safety. If you still disagree, how would you like it if you or one of your family or friends works as an under-cover police officer, and I went and blabbed my mouth off as to what they do, their name, city, etc - resulting in them being found on the bottom of a riverbed. Its fairly close to the sa
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Now only some members of the military are entitled to free speech, the ones that agree with the official line.
You don't have to give violate OPSEC to disagree, but you shouldn't be agreeing or disagreeing in public anyways - it's not good for anybody.
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Isn't this one of the possible definitions for whistleblowing?
If they refuse, toss them in jail in a 6x8 solitary confinement cell, forever until they do.
What if the helpful person is located outside of the US jurisdiction (which is entirely the point of this approach)?
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Operational Security(OPSEC) and Communications Security(COMSEC) are clearly defined in the appropriate regulations. A servicemember's right to free speech takes a back seat to both of those for good reason.
Anyone reading some of the blogs I've seen some of my fellow soldiers post could swiftly identify the best time and place for a hasty ambush. Breaking OPSEC/COMSEC = dead soldiers.
Please build y
Yikes! (Score:3, Insightful)
2) On the other hand, I'm sure there *are* plenty of people who could make enthusiastic use of web browsing from some stranger's IP. But I'm sure they'd never get you in serious trouble, right?
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Your first point depends on how hard it is to detect that some one is using this circumvention software. They're doing someth
Would the Psiphonode's block-list affect p'user? (Score:2)
So, if a provider (ie, psiphonode) had an Internet connection
that with some blocked sites (eg, kiddy porn, etc.), wouldn't
those limitations flow through to the user (ie, psiphonuser)?
If so, then those who fear sharing their bandwidth should be
able to rest easier, knowing that only stuff that they could
themselves access is accessible to their overseas user.
Now, how to block access to such sites, locally...?
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didn't some chinese gov. official, at an internet conference in europe somewhere, recently claim all inaccessible sites were just networking problems?
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The user, aka the client, doesn't need any additional software on his computer. He only uses a standard SSL webbrowser.
Only the server needs to install the psiphon software.
Not only good for people in censored countries... (Score:4, Interesting)
Personal VPN (Score:2)
Re:Not only good for people in censored countries. (Score:2)
If your company blocks gaming sites, yet your job requires gaming sites, you should use the proper avenue to get permission to view gaming sites. In many orgs, our manager will need to tell your security department that you need the access.
If, on the other hand, you use proxy servers or other technology to willingly and knowingly circumvent your company's policy and security controls, you could wind up fired. Don't be a dumbass.
Re:Not only good for people in censored countries. (Score:1)
The counter to this argument is budgets. Most schools recieve their funding for high-speed bandwidth through a grant. The provisios of that grant state we need to apply a content filtering system to protect our children. As the primary monitor our districts traffic through the firewall, I see and hear these arguments all the time. I do not think it is possible t
Yeah... (Score:4, Interesting)
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You can't start a revolution or a movement if people aren't aware of your existence.
(OT) Yes, they did. 17th Century (Score:2)
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Vision and Courage are great but they don't exist without information.
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(Here's a hint: It had very little to do with "folks 'hiding' behind fax machines, getting the word out.")
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You're letting your ideology interfere with your thinking.
The revolution itself required the communication for those folks you claim had very little to do with it.
The "collapse" is a separate issue from the communications that were required for the people who made the changes in government.
Fax machines did not collapse the USSR, but they made the change one that swung towards a form of Democracy instead of another totalitarian regime.
Like the printing press in the Ame
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Hmmmm...so you think Russia has a form of Democracy and not a totalitarian regime, huh? You might want to pay a little closer attention to the newscasts... Have a look at this Google news search [google.com]. There's more to Russia than meets the eye.
While I don't doubt that printers and printing presses had a lot to do wit
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And so you would be revealing your own massive ignorance.
The fax machine was anything but new
Russia is a Democracy last time I checked, elections with opposition party's, am elected head of state and legislature and an operating legal system.
Flawed, broken, but not down or out - it's in a very close approximation to most of the major democracy's around the wo
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The difference between china and psrs lies in the centralization of economic management. This is the single reason why china is still as it is - helped by the outsourcing wave that gave them the tools, of course.
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Worst flash animation ever (Score:1)
Um,this has been "publicly available" for a decade (Score:2)
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The primary this is easy to install and use. The software package will be designed for easy installation on most operating systems. If you have a friend using a state-filtered 'net connection, then it will be can help them without understanding the specifics of port forwarding, encryption, or web servers. Ease of use allows ease of distribution.
Second, the software encrypts the data, unlike port forwarders and CGIproxy, AFA
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The primary this is easy to install and use. The software package will be designed for easy installation on most operating systems. If you have a friend using a state-filtered 'net connection, then it will be can help them without understanding the specifics of port forwarding, encryption, or web servers. Ease of use allows ease of distribution.
Actually, CGIProxy has had automatic installers for several years, for both Unix and Windows. The Windows installer includes a secure Apache server and Perl, and
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Easy there, cowboy-- I'm not against any new software models, and I don't look down on software forking; I never mentioned either, nor anything about any 99.999% . From my site, it's easy to tell that I have long supported OSS, and even intentionally write my software to be easy to modify. Please do not put words in my mouth.
The story summary says "the fact that software like Psiphon is becoming publicly available is interesting." That is what I was correcting, because such software has been publicly a
Re:Um,this has been "publicly available" for a dec (Score:2)
PsiPhon is supposed to be installable on any PC connected to the internet in an uncensored country.
Plug and go, if we ever see it.
I suspect that liablity lawyers have gotten in the way at UofT.
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CGIProxy requires a server and is not stand alone PsiPhon is supposed to be installable on any PC connected to the internet in an uncensored country. Plug and go, if we ever see it.
Actually, CGIProxy is installable on just about any machine, regardless of OS. For Windows, there is an automatic installer that includes a secure Apache server and Perl, so the package is, in effect, stand-alone. The installing person does not need technical skills. It's already "plug and go".
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My first thought was that this was Triangle Boy [alternet.org] all over again (except without Safeweb on the other end, but that was sort of immaterial anyway).
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Vapor Ware (Score:2)
Somebody had to say it.
No download links anywhere, not for source code or executable on any platform.
Until the product actually exists "in the wild", China and the University of Parinoia have nothing to fear but enthusiasm.
I appreciate the idea behind PSIPHON and the PR, but until there's a PRODUCT any discussion is just jaw flapping, not discussion of PSIPHON.
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From their web site:
Two things come to mind:
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Promote a Dec. 1 release and then wait until 23:59 to "build suspense"?
It's already Dec. 2 in much of the world that it's intended to help.
Number 2 is not correct since midnight they've added FAQ's and news but still no download-ables.
So you're wrong on both counts Dec. 1 is over and they have updated the site.
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No, I don't think it's a "build suspense thing".
And I'm pretty damn sure it's still Dec 1 somewhere. It's December 1 by my clock, and it's on UTC, even, and just by virture of that, I will vehemently contest that your statement of "Dec 1 is over" is incorrect.
Granted, if they were promoting a Dec 1 release date, I'd think it would have been released at the BEGINNING of Dec 1, not the end.
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So the rest of what you said was just blowing foul air.
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Direct link is http://psiphon.ca/download.php [psiphon.ca]
Windows-only
coral mirror (Score:2)
I for one welcome... (Score:3, Funny)
...our new anonymous Canadian overlords... or I would... if I knew who they were... never mind.
Who is helping the Chinese government censor? (Score:4, Interesting)
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Nice strawman. You have no idea whether or not GP is pro-socialist, or against the Cuban embargo. I haven't heard *anybody* advocating a US government embargo of China.
What I have h
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It's unfair to blame Americans here. Multinational corporations are involved. Which means there's nothing to stop a Free Market response to China in every country.
Caveat: Personally, I think the day China embraced capitalism, they lost the great revolution. Capitalism is improving people's lives substantially and one day the chinese citizenry will 'wake up' and decide that human life i
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Is everyone overlooking something here? (Score:2, Insightful)
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How about leaving God out of it, these are the affairs of men.
"China has it's laws and their citizens have to obey those laws, just as we must obey the laws in our own country"
Except and unless those laws are wrong, then we and they have an obligation to change or violate them. You won't see a change though unless someone is willing to violate them.
"Giving the average Chinese citizen the ability to circumvent those laws is not doing them a service since the
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I'll take the word of a resident over the word of some foreign mouthpiece for the government any day.
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You see that same attitude from Americans too. Watch any Slashdot conversation on the subject of "piracy". Count the number of "but the MPAA/RIAA/BSA is doing the right thing by suing 12-year-olds because the law SAYS they're doing the right thing!" posts. That doesn't mean that the attitude is prevalent, it just means there are some people who are incapable of indep
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No it isn't, it's only Arrogant if I take arrogance to the the statement.
If a law is wrong, it's wrong - here in America or in China.
I have the right as a free human to try and change ANYTHING I perceive as wrong.
China is not a free society, your statement not mine - and once freedom has been taken it's not a simple matter to restore it.
The people of China did not chose the government they have in place, the people who live before them chose it
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"Except and unless those laws are wrong, then we and they have an obligation to change or violate them. You won't see a change though unless someone is willing to violate them."
Not that I support the parent post 100%, but if you are talking about laws that are wrong, you don't have to look all the way to China to find some.
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No argument from me, I believe my response said as much.
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Finally Avialable for download now (Score:2)
http://psiphon.ca/download/psiphoninstall.msi [psiphon.ca]
My way to tap the cersorship (Score:1)
So here i hope more people can establish more proxy servers for the software and join to the development of the software. That will m
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The problem with TOR is the software you use to find proxy servers is also accessible to the people who want to stop you from accessing them. It is their full-time job to know more about proxies than you. That's why technology is key: Only you and your Psiphon host know of the Internet address. By the way, is proxy circumvention (avoidance) illegal where you live?
It is not only China that is censoring. There is a site-blocker proxy where I live and work. (I am an American by the way.) In add
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"O beautiful for pilgrims feet,
Whose stern impassioned stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America ! America !
God shed his grace on thee"
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Iran banned Wikipedia today! (Score:2)
AmberMac (Score:2)
I used Tor for a while, but I think I'll try Psiphon and see if it's better.
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Note to moderators: I meant to include this link in the parent post, so please don't moderate it up, unless it falls to 0.
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Which means all censorship. Your point was?
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>Which means all censorship. Your point was?
Whoooosh.....
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http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Asarcasm [google.com]
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I really love the mental acrobatics it takes to go from "free speech" to "kiddie porn is constitutionally protected." Censorship hyperbole FTW!
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Excuse me, could you deliver a USA example while you hide behind your A/C moniker?
I agree that nearly every government in the world imposes some sort of censorship in some form of communication, I wouldn't put the de and us in the same boat as China.
(and yes every pun and innuendo in that statement was intentional).
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China is in fact mauist ostensibly communist they replaced a dictatorship with a all powerful oligarchy
Germany was Nazi, sort of a mash up between Fasciest and particularly brutal form of racism, though they have after the second world war become a nominally socialist country.
The US is fascist in so much as the defining characteristic of fascism is Corporatism basically primary political power is wheedled by a consortium of industry
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I'll probably get punished with modding down for pointing out the truth, but how would that have got us control of the country and its oil? Not that the way we tried worked either.
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No, I can't. I wrote two sentences, and you couldn't even read #2?
Okay, let's try an old Bush administration "talking point": It was publicly and openly stated before the war that, after we destroyed their country, we were going to take their oil in "exchange" for rebuilding it.
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Looking at the December 13th, 2004 Psiphon Final Report by Patrick Smith and Jeffrey Jia of Department [toronto.edu]
of Computer Science University Of Toronto (found it with Google, it's a PDF) reveals that Psiphon is
Python based and compiled into a stand alone cross platform GUI application that ANYONE can install and run.
IF they ever release it, Psiphon will amount to a personal https proxy, nothing new until we know the real details.