Parler Shuts Down As New Owner Says Conservative Platform Needs Big Revamp (arstechnica.com) 214
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Parler, the self-described "uncancelable free speech platform," has been sold and shut down while its new owner conducts a "strategic assessment." The platform will be back eventually, new owner Starboard says. The Parler website is now a simple page containing only today's press release announcing the acquisition, which was completed without financial terms being disclosed. "No reasonable person believes that a Twitter clone just for conservatives is a viable business any more," the acquisition announcement said, promising a revamp.
"While the Parler app as it is currently constituted will be pulled down from operation to undergo a strategic assessment, we at Starboard see tremendous opportunities across multiple sectors to continue to serve marginalized or even outright censored communities -- even extending beyond domestic politics," the press release said. No timing for a return was mentioned. In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Starboard founder and CEO Ryan Coyne said that Parler is "going to take a breath of fresh air." Ars notes that Starboard was formerly called Olympic Media and owns conservative news sites American Wire News and BizPac Review.
The previous owner, Parlement Technologies, tried to strike a deal to sell to Ye (formerly Kanye West) in mid-October but canceled the deal after Ye praised Hitler and Nazis. The company laid off a majority of its staff earlier this year.
"While the Parler app as it is currently constituted will be pulled down from operation to undergo a strategic assessment, we at Starboard see tremendous opportunities across multiple sectors to continue to serve marginalized or even outright censored communities -- even extending beyond domestic politics," the press release said. No timing for a return was mentioned. In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Starboard founder and CEO Ryan Coyne said that Parler is "going to take a breath of fresh air." Ars notes that Starboard was formerly called Olympic Media and owns conservative news sites American Wire News and BizPac Review.
The previous owner, Parlement Technologies, tried to strike a deal to sell to Ye (formerly Kanye West) in mid-October but canceled the deal after Ye praised Hitler and Nazis. The company laid off a majority of its staff earlier this year.
Nazi Twitter? (Score:2, Insightful)
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Republicans love censorship. https://www.wired.com/story/te... [wired.com]
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Republicans call for the government to investigate Facebook, Apple, Google, Twitter, etc. for censorship.
Now that Twitter has violated a bunch of other laws and become "friendly", thos [arstechnica.com]
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No business case for a nazi twitter?? Whaaat? Because the existing twitter is turning into a nazi twitter???
Nor is there a business case for a dating site for nazis [rawstory.com], or an "anti-woke" bank [imgur.com].
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I get it, it's very unsettling when someone breaks your little echo chamber, right?
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They don't have the right-wing faux-centrist Elon Musk to keep saying provocative things to prop them up at the price of starting a civil war and maybe even WWIII. Dude claims to be a centrist but never posts any centrist stuff. Always right wing anti-trans, anti-liberal, bad stuff a random black guy does to whites but never posts when the opposite happens, a missouri legislator openly endorses pedophile level stuff and he not only doesn't retweet it but actively suppresses it on his platform. Never critici
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They call it 'controlling the narrative', the effectiveness remains to be seen.
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All 3 parties? Which 3 is that? We are talking about the US, which only has 2 real parties, yes?
Both parties are right wing... because you're an extreme socialist or card carrying g true red communist?
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Libertarians are very low in political power. Yes, there are Republicans claiming to be libertarian but note that it's a lower-case L and they don't actually hold real Libertarian values. Granted, they are ahead of the Greens. Mostly what is happening is that anything but the top two parties naturally loser - you need 50%+1 votes to get a representative into office. Even if 33% of the country voted for a particular party they might still end up with 0 representatives, federal, state, or local. A few ti
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Libertarians are very low in political power. Yes, there are Republicans claiming to be libertarian but note that it's a lower-case L and they don't actually hold real Libertarian values.
Libertarians are just Republicans that don't hide that they're in favor of legalized marijuana and a reprehensibly low age of consent. "Freedom for me, but not for you".
Granted, they are ahead of the Greens.
Doesn't matter, they're not on the ballot in this state. Furthest left party on the ballot in all 50 states is the solidly conservative Democrats.
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Libertarians are for low government control over both economic and social activities. Republicans are very much pro control over social activities. So they only agree somewhat on the economic side. Even then, most Libertarians I know seemed to highly dislike Trump's use of tariffs, but then Trump really isn't a classic Republican or conservative either.
There are quite a lot of Libertarians that don't think Ron Paul was really Libertarian.
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Centrist is usually relative to the country it's in. And even if left or right of center relative to the rest of the world it tends to be the moderate faction willing to listen to alternatives, accept pragmatism, and get down to the actual business of governing instead of politicking.
It's true, we don't have a solid labor party in the US, that's sort of died out. America has squelched labor/socialist movements from the start, too fearful of commies maybe but probably more fearful of having to raise wages.
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No. But convincing people that this is the case is how the far right comes to have a monopoly on power. We saw it in the Weimar Republic and Italy. Thanks to the legacy of McCarthyism, we're seeing it in America right now. The UK's been dealing with that as well starting a couple years before the Brexit vote. That's how you get our current situation with Libertarians and Republicans pulling to the right and Democrats preventing movement to the left.
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Umm, no. I havent shifted. He's shifted. He's even softened his stance on climate change. He's not posting centrist stuff, he's not even convinced even one of his MAGA friends that manmade climate change is real. He's not done anything to reduce hatred of minorities, if anything he's increased it. He's not done anything to reduce tribalism. How's he helping humanity? He's lop-sided advocating for a certain favored group and only that group while claiming to be a centrist. He used to be in favor of universal healthcare, now he's shifted on that too. REference: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/s... [twitter.com]
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There's also the fact that you lack the maturity to recognize that somebody is crazy and needs serious mental health treatment.
No, I am pretty sure that we recognize that Musk is crazy and needs serious mental health treatment. It is possible that part of it is the drugs. For example, he is known to have been Ambien-dependent in the past and I don't think he has ever publicly stated that he's stopped taking it. Based on the known side effects ("abnormal thinking"), plus all the examples of people on Ambien seeming to suffer sudden personality shifts, it really does seem like it can mess with people's minds (although, people taking
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I think he uses the same psychiatrist the Kanye uses. But also I think Musk and Kanye, and possibly Trump, all have the same syndrome recipe - start with some narcissist tendencies, then mix in too much time with sycophants telling them that they're geniuses, while carefully avoiding having anyone near who will call them out on their mistakes or flaws.
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Sure, but there's something to be said for picking the right people to have ideas for you and manage things for you even if you do hog the credit. Not to mention actually providing a clear direction for those people to move in. It seemed like Musk had that at spaceX and Tesla, but then he lost the thread. But, maybe he never actually had it and it just seemed that way. It strikes me in a lot of descriptions of Musk's high intelligence that people talk about him like a precocious child prodigy, always impres
Time off to focus (Score:5, Insightful)
From an article (Score:2)
Not sure why conservatives need to be hated. I doubt most even knew what Parler was, much less take time to go after them with pitchforks.
Of course people have a reason to fear them. If a man wants to put on a dress, he should not have to
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I can go an entire day without thinking about trans people. Can you?
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Shoulda picked Ye's pocket... (Score:2)
...and left him broke with the dungheap. Put like with like.
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Promoting terrorism (Score:4, Insightful)
So, Parler, a safe space for conservatives, a group that calls itself domestic terrorists against the US, and doesn't understand that "woke" simply means "being conscious of people's immutable attributes and not picking on people for things they can't change", is going under? Nothing of value was lost. And the first thing they've done that isn't antiamerican.
Also, they should consider themselves lucky, as site operators, that they're not getting run up on the RICO act, terrorism or seditious conspiracy charges after Jan 6.
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> Poilievre isn't interested in freedom of speech
Me and you know the truth because we're wokies, but how do we convince everyone else when Trudeau's liberal party is literally censoring the internet? We gots an up hills battle convincing everyone else day wrong wokie brotha. Yee-hawww.
"Trudeau’s Party Passes Bill to Regulate Social Media, Streaming
But critics say it threatens free speech on user-driven sites"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news... [bloomberg.com]
"An open letter to Canadians." - Google
https://blog.googl [blog.google]
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Sounds exactly like the laws that say tv and radio must play a certain percentage of Canadian content. The article even says so.
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Fixed for accuracy. Misanthropic assholes are plenty free to say those things. They are not free from the social and economic consequences of their actions, and that's what people who complain about "woke" are actually complaining about. They want to be free to be bigots without consequences for their words and actions.
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assholes are plenty free to say those things. They are not free from the social and economic consequences of their actions, and that's what people who complain about "woke" are actually complaining about. They want to be free to be bigots without consequences for their words and actions.
This is worth repeating.
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Pathetic. Do you actually think that typing all caps makes your nonsense more compelling? SMH...
No one is saying that you bigoted assholes can't speak, only that you don't have a right to other people's platforms. You're free to spread your bullshit in your own shitty spaces. You also seem to think that your actions shouldn't have negative consequences.
Put in terms you can understand: You're nothing but a bunch of entitled snowflakes. Grow up.
Re:Promoting terrorism (Score:4, Insightful)
"Woke is not about being aware. It is about hating and censoring and cancelling. As we see here all too often."
No, that's the right wing narrative on woke which is a term they misapply to everything and anything they don't like.
Re:Promoting terrorism (Score:4, Insightful)
Political agendas and business don't mix (Score:2)
I'm not sure who needs to hear this, but definitely a lot of people running businesses in America today!
Historically, businesses stayed away from taking any official political positions on issues. It runs counter to the purpose of a free-market business venture, really. You want to maximize your sales and customer-base! Politics is, by nature, divisive. At any given time, a number not too far from HALF of the nation's population will be against whatever you claim to support, politically. So why upset that
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Historically, businesses stayed away from taking any official political positions on issues.
I would have to say that slavery and segregation are some pretty glaring counterexamples to that position just off the top of my head. Maybe you should modify that with an exception for political positions that are not the prevailing ones in the particular market where the business operates? If enough of the public is either for that political position or callously indifferent, adopting it as an official position is probably beneficial to a business, regardless of how terrible it is.
Re:Political agendas and business don't mix (Score:4, Interesting)
Business was also the only thing really in opposition to things like collective bargaining, the 40 hour work week, employer-paid health insurance, vacation days, minimum wage, the weekend, occupational health and safety, building fire codes...I could keep going and still not leave the US during the last 100 years.
I'm guessing ... (Score:2)
Parler Shuts Down As New Owner Says Conservative Platform Needs Big Revamp
Something more cutting-edge, maybe less -- conservative?
So when did "Free Speech" = "Conservative" (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:So when did "Free Speech" = "Conservative" (Score:5, Informative)
So when did "Free Speech" = "Conservative"
It's a thing conservatives made up to try and convince people of something counter to reality.
Re:So when did "Free Speech" = "Conservative" (Score:4, Informative)
Look at the legislation Texas is trying to pass. https://www.wired.com/story/te... [wired.com]
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Re:So when did "Free Speech" = "Conservative" (Score:4, Funny)
I was always looking forward to Bernie Sanders and AOC having accounts on Parler. I’d give them 24 hours before the perma ban.
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I live in the present day enough to see "patriotic americans" both protesting for free speech and cheering on States that expressly seek to punish those seeking to exercise it (Disney, DEI advocates, drag performers).
At least "the hippies" took a few decades to gradually change their views in your scenario. The modern right merely says "what inconsistency are you talking about?"
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Disney, DEI advocates and drag performers are not for free speech. They are for their own free speech. Everyone else needs to be shutdown.
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Every accusation really is a confession with you people, isn't it? Unlike you, of course, I can actually support my claims:
You want "freedom of speech" to mean "freedom from consequences", but only for right-wing bigots. For example, your little "go woke, go broke" slogan is "cancel culture" -- the very thing you've been crying about for years!
The hypocrisy is staggering. At the same time you freaks are trying to ban boycotts [theatlantic.com] you're boycotting shitty beer for being "woke". [vox.com]
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It never has. Right-wingers just get off on being Orwellian ghouls, as always.
Like the "family values" they talk about, in the Chris Hansen sense. Or the "patriotism" in their Russian bank accounts.
Bunch of little Jeffrey Dahmers, the lot of them.
No loss they have nothing to say except (Score:2)
Makes sense (Score:3)
What good is a platform if it doesn't allow you to cultivate your persecution complex?
Definitions... (Score:2)
There is no left-wing bias in the USA because there is no left-wing, only different degrees of extremism & exceptionalism
They're not Nazis either. The Nazis were ruthlessly efficient. That's definitely *not* something we can say about American governance.
As usual, the real danger is from overly rich & powerful individuals & corporations, as they were in the 1930s, subverting democracy for their own ends & to serve their own pe
Conservatives are most like cannibals. (Score:2)
They literally are responsible for the least violently evil and un-free political movement in human history, and sympathized it worldwide (even to this day). The fact that they don't refer to themselves as "ashamed" rather than "conservative" is proof that they're evil.
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Probably not "conservative" enough. (Score:2)
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Bravo sir, bravo.
Re:Go woke, go broke (Score:5, Insightful)
I guess since Musk took over Twitter, the whole "alternative social media for conservatives" concept has become a bit superfluous.
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seriously?
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Yes, here's a study with data and citations showing that the algorithm amplifiers right wing ideas faster. Notice how Elon is not publishing that bit of source code? https://cdn.cms-twdigitalasset... [cms-twdigitalassets.com]
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My partner regularly gets time-outs from Twitter after arguing back at homophobes. I've told him many times not to fall for it, because goading someone into breaking the rules and then reporting them for it is the oldest trick in the book. Le sigh.
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Maybe your partner should be less of a psycho and stay within the rules. Are you claiming your partner just calmly replies and makes rational statements of fact and doesn't come off like the typical fact free emotionally distraught slash dot poster? And gets warnings and bans for that?
Probably because that's exactly what's been happening on Twitter from the start? Just because you don't like to hear it and it's inconvenient to your narrative doesn't make it fake.
Internet debate? Pfah!
This is not, has not, and will not be a debate. Only weirdos who weren't raised with manners want to debate strangers against their will.
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Ok uh yeah so your partner has stayed entirely inside the rules and never gone off all ballistic and got flagged? Uh ok sure, I believe that. Next up, pull my finger.
I wasn't debating you. I can't see how what I was saying was an attempt to "force you" into a debate. Did you read -nothing- I said? Nothing at all? There is no such thing as an internet debate between anonymous strangers. It's a ridiculous concept. It's all laughable bullshit. I don't do "internet debate". I spent a whole fucking pa
Re: Go woke, go broke (Score:3)
I have a small group of knuckleheads on slashdot who mod me down no matter what I say on any topic. Why? Because there's something wrong with them.
If you want to get technical that actually means there is something wrong with YOU.
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Maybe but not for that reason.
I've never modded anyone and I've posted anonymously only once to test the interface for it solely as a learning experiment.
So, no, if there is anything wrong with me it has nothing to do with slashdot's broken moderation system, my response to it or my amusement at the broken people who feel it's important. It is not. This site is not. The people on it, including me, are not. None of this is important. But treating it like it is is a sign of some form of brokenness.
Re: Go woke, go broke (Score:2)
You have people following you. I dont have people following me. Intuit what you like.
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You are victim blaming. If someone bullies someone, and the victim lashes back....that's rather expected.
As for your assertion that some cabal is following you around downvoting your posts, that's silly nonsense. People just downvote your posts a lot because you say a lot of stupid things, I would expect you to be used to it by now.
Re:Go woke, go broke (Score:4, Informative)
There's no such thing as cisgendered. It's a nonsense word whose only meaning is as part of a political or emotional opposition to acknowledging reality. Human beings are male or female. Their sexual preferences may vary and some of them may wish they were other than they are. But the genders are "male" and "female". Everything else is somewhere between unfounded assertion and fantastical thinking.
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Weird flex (Score:3)
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If you are the type of person that is so obsessed with the comments of anonymous people on the Internet that you consider yourself a refugee in need of a mental safe space, then I strongly advise you to get off the Internet seek therapy to help with your severe mental illness.
You will never meet these people in real life. They will never have any meaningful control over your life other than what you allow them to have. Stop letting irrelevant people hold sway over your life and you will not have to look for
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You must've known something was up, because I just tried sending a DM on Twitter and discovered that my account had been locked. TBH, I'm not really a prolific tweeter, so fuck if I know what I did wrong. Maybe they just went through and mass-locked everyone with a rainbow flag in their profile?
I honestly considered just saying the heck with it and being done with Twitter, but my partner is on there and I like throwing a few hearts his way every once in awhile. So, now in addition to all his money and ev
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I honestly considered just saying the heck with it and being done with Twitter, but my partner is on there and I like throwing a few hearts his way every once in awhile.
My husband's on Twitter, but I've been trying to get him to move into the fediverse since pretty much everyone he regularly interacts with has already moved. He says he wants to stay there and fight for Twitter, and I've been trying to convince him that unless he's got $45 billion laying around I don't know about, that fight's already lost. Meanwhile, we have a local Mastodon instance in our city...
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And true to form, Twitter is now in deep financial doo-doo because conservatives are so "good" at business.
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That's old school conservatives; you know, industry magnates, banking powers, builders of big things. New conservatives are all either social conservatives meaning they prefer less education and science and thus maybe not great at business, or else they're Trumpists meaning they prefer conspiracies and truthiness over rationality which also means not great at business.
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Maybe in personality, but the end result's the same. Both are holding us back as a society.
Can you elaborate on how they're holding us back?
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Re:Go woke, go broke (Score:5, Funny)
Go MAGA, go Caca.
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Get woke or go broke
Re:Go woke, go broke (Score:4, Informative)
Twitter's ad revenue is reported to have doubled since Musk took over so, hum, yeah. It must be that non-leftist politics is a business failure on the net.
Who [theguardian.com] exactly is reporting that? [insiderintelligence.com] Any search I do for twitter ad revenue 2023 are just hits along those lines, especially ones referencing the second one as it's more recent.
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Ice Cream has no bones.
Don't give me tomatoes
Can't stand ice cream cones
I like bananas
Because they have no bones
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Yes, YoY they are down. They dropped the moment he took over. And are reported to have double back up since then.
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The second links forecast was reported 4 days ago. You keep saying reported, what reports? I'd be interested to see a source.
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Twitter is likely getting less ad revenue, Musk has been trying to micromanage it and is screwing it up. He's left with a skeleton staff that can barely keep up. News reports show major drops in revenue; which is especially bad considering that they were never above water to begin with.
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Mostly because they labeled NPR and BBC as "state-affiliated media". Now it's changed it to "government funded", but the label is still highly inaccurate and misleading. Neither NPR nor BBC are state government mouthpieces and they shouldn't be lumped together with such outlets. But this was also a Musk moment, they made a quick change without thinking it through; or maybe Musk did think it through and assumed they were propaganda sites and didn't realize there'd be blowback. I don't think a single pers
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