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Trump CTO Addresses AI, Facial Recognition, Immigration, Tech Infrastructure, and More (ieee.org) 26

Tekla Perry writes: Michael Kratsios, the fourth U.S. Chief Technology Officer, explains administration policies at the Fall Conference of the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence -- and takes some tough questions from the audience. An exchange between Kratsios and Stanford's Eileen Donahoe hit on current hot topics, starting with the tension between the U.S. and China: Donahoe: "You talk a lot about unique U.S. ecosystem. In which aspect of AI is the U.S. dominant, and where is China challenging us in dominance?
Kratsios: "They are challenging us on machine vision. They have more data to work with, given that they have surveillance data."
Donahoe: "To what extent would you say the quantity of data collected and available will be a determining factor in AI dominance?"
Kratsios: "It makes a big difference in the short term. But we do research on how we get over these data humps. There is a future where you don't need as much data, a lot of federal grants are going to [research in] how you can train models using less data."

Donahoe turned the conversation to a different tension -- that between innovation and values.

Donahoe: "A lot of conversation yesterday was about the tension between innovation and values, and how do you hold those things together and lead in both realms."
Kratsios: "We recognized that the U.S. hadn't signed on to principles around developing AI. In May, we signed [the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development Principles on Artificial Intelligence], coming together with other Western democracies to say that these are values that we hold dear.
[Meanwhile,] we have adversaries around the world using AI to surveil people, to suppress human rights. That is why American leadership is so critical: We want to come out with the next great product. And we want our values to underpin the use cases."

A member of the audience pushed further:

"Maintaining U.S. leadership in AI might have costs in terms of individuals and society. What costs should individuals and society bear to maintain leadership?" Kratsios: "I don't view the world that way. Our companies big and small do not hesitate to talk about the values that underpin their technology. [That is] markedly different from the way our adversaries think. The alternatives are so dire [that we] need to push efforts to bake the values that we hold dear into this technology."

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Trump CTO Addresses AI, Facial Recognition, Immigration, Tech Infrastructure, and More

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  • by greatpatton ( 1242300 ) on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @03:00PM (#59384378)
    Trump is the king to nominate people that have no clue (or no more than him), between the CSO Giuliani that don't even know how a phone works and a CTO with a degree in political science and Hellenistic studies, you can see how bad this administration is...
  • Values? (Score:1, Insightful)

    by gtall ( 79522 )

    Maybe he's referring to separating kids from their parents at the border? Or denying the science behind human powered global warming? Or about those values that let the Republicans claim a tax cut for the rich was going to pay for itself? Or about the values of the Baby Christian who feels it is okay to grab women when they are powerless to resist? How about the values of not allowing the Iraqis who worked for the U.S. to emigrate to the U.S.?

    I presume it was those values that allowed the Baby Christian to

    • by Anonymous Coward

      do you ever get tired of your manufactured outrage virtue signaling?

      asking for a friend.

      • Re:Values? (Score:5, Interesting)

        by DickBreath ( 207180 ) on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @05:02PM (#59384748) Homepage
        Something interesting I see. What was once called "common decency" is now called "virtue signalling".
        • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

          No, it is bullshit like this "Our companies big and small do not hesitate to talk about the values that underpin their technology.", yeah that is all the liars do, publicly talk about and virtue signal as PR=B$ whilst corrupting democracy, invading everyone's privacy, using that data to 'TARGET' and manipulate adults and minors, specifically targeted psychological manipulation.

          Common decency is doing it, not just talking about it for marketing purposes whilst doing the exact opposite. You have to be decent

    • Moral standing the world? You don't know what you are talking about, the US pays the worlds bills, protects the worlds peace and powers the worlds economy. What country could have greater moral standing?
  • He's spot on on deep learning and data. I'm surprised. Typically I expect the US government to strictly hire total mouth breathers.

  • Surveillance ... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by sit1963nz ( 934837 ) on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @03:13PM (#59384424)
    Surveillance is only one aspect of machine vision, yet it seems like it is the only one the government cares about...why ?

    What about for quality control in manufacturing ?
    What about for medical uses ?
    What about for self driving cars ?
    What about for agriculture, spotting disease , pest control , water management ?
    • While I don't doubt that surveillance applications are important to our government, I think the reason surveillance was brought up in this discussion is that it provides an ample dataset for the training of computer vision, and not that it's necessarily the most valued application thereof: "they have more data to work with, given that they have surveillance data" implies that we don't have surveillance data, or at least have far less than China.

      I can't take "we have adversaries around the world using AI to

      • Facial data sets are no good for manufacturing , agriculture , medicine , etc etc etc. Facial data sets are primarily used for surveillance
    • > Surveillance is only one aspect of machine vision, yet it seems like it is the only one the government cares about...why ?

      Because it is easy to understand the usefulness and application from all levels of government thereby creating more demand and interest.

      What does the government manufacture and why would any dollar used to fund that research not be part of a general grant that interested parties compete for?

      • Because money.
        Agriculture, technology, etc bring in hundreds of billions of dollars through exports.
        It creates jobs.
    • > Surveillance is only one aspect of machine vision, yet it seems like it is the only one the
      > government cares about...why ?

      > What about for quality control in manufacturing ?
      > What about for medical uses ?
      > What about for self driving cars ?
      > What about for agriculture, spotting disease , pest control , water management ?

      Surveillance is about the government caring about "quality control" of human beings. For certain specific definitions of "quality".
      • How soon before they start stepping exploding collars on you lot in the USA.
        Commit a burglary...BOOM
        Jaywalk ... BOOM
        Drink Drive ... BOOM
        Vote wrong...BOOM
        Vote against Ivanka becoming the USAs first queen ...BOOM
  • So ... Statistical Analysis (which the yung'uns call ML or Machine Learning) to generate inference engines (Algorithmic Inference -- which the yung'uns call AI) requires the statistical analysis of data? Well, shiver me timbers... Who would have thought?

    • Garbage in, Garbage out. It makes the world go round.

      Someone else mentioned it too, but there wasn't near enough marketing fluff in those CTO responses. Almost like a real CTO....

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