More Evidence Ties Alleged DNC Hacker Guccifer 2.0 To Russian Intelligence (techcrunch.com) 210
An anonymous reader shares a report: It may be a while since you've heard the handle "Guccifer 2.0," the hacker who took responsibility for the infamous DNC hack of 2016. Reports from the intelligence community at the time, as well as common sense, pegged Guccifer 2.0 not as the Romanian activist he claimed to be, but a Russian operative. Evidence has been scarce, but one slip-up may have given the game away. An anonymous source close to the U.S. government investigation of the hacker told the Daily Beast that on one single occasion, Guccifer 2.0 failed to log into the usual VPN that disguised their traffic. As a result, they left one honest IP trace at an unnamed social media site.
That IP address, "identified Guccifer 2.0 as a particular GRU officer working out of the agency's headquarters on Grizodubovoy Street in Moscow," the Daily Beast reported. (The GRU is one of the Russia's security and intelligence organs.) Previous work by security researchers had suggested this, but it's the first I've heard of evidence this direct. Assuming it's genuine, it's a sobering reminder of how fragile anonymity is on the internet -- one click and the whole thing comes crashing down.
That IP address, "identified Guccifer 2.0 as a particular GRU officer working out of the agency's headquarters on Grizodubovoy Street in Moscow," the Daily Beast reported. (The GRU is one of the Russia's security and intelligence organs.) Previous work by security researchers had suggested this, but it's the first I've heard of evidence this direct. Assuming it's genuine, it's a sobering reminder of how fragile anonymity is on the internet -- one click and the whole thing comes crashing down.
unnamed social media site (Score:4, Insightful)
no wonder reddit wont cough up the logs
Anonymous source... (Score:4, Insightful)
Verify it yourself (Score:4, Informative)
The other part of the story you can check for yourself. i.e. that he was handed off to another agent who speaks much better English. There you have a verifiable item by reading the early and late Guccifer comments, and it passes a quick sanity check.
But also "anonymous sources" seem to be nearly 100% accurate when it comes to Trumps stuff and the WH 100% INaccurate. Remember "Trump plans to sack US HR McMaster", remember all the denials from the Whitehouse? and guess what, he's sacked. It was so well known as true, that it barely registered as news.
And the Steele dossier, I think even the Fox news lying heads know that's real, this guys resignation email hit hard because it was true, if it was false it wouldn't have affected them:
"As a Russia analyst for many years, it also has appalled me that hosts who made their reputations as super-patriots and who, justifiably, savaged President Obama for his duplicitous folly with Putin, now advance Putin's agenda by making light of Russian penetration of our elections and the Trump campaign. Despite increasingly pathetic denials, it turns out that the "nothing-burger" has been covered with Russian dressing all along. And by the way: As an intelligence professional, I can tell you that the Steele dossier rings true--that's how the Russians do things.. The result is that we have an American president who is terrified of his counterpart in Moscow."
That's 100% true, and Fox are 100% sacks of lying shits who'd sell out their country for their sponsor. Hannity you are a fucking lying sack of Putin shit.
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100% true, eh? I guess it's just as true as when President Obama mocked then-candidate Mitt Romney for calling out Russia at the debate -- followed by all of the talking heads also mocking Romney and applauding Obama's awareness? It's almost as if the talking heads for either party on the media networks try to support their favored candidate. Nope, that must not be it though because the other mainstream media sources are all Democrat-favoring and thus must be 100% factual. They would never stoop so low as t
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Irrelevant.
Straw man. And irrelevant.
Factcheck == toilet paper. But lets go ahead and look at your attempted deflection from the fact that Hillary promised at her confirmation hearings to erect a wall and disclose any potential conflicts of interest between the Clinton Foundation and her work at the State De
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Well, the person leaking this information is committing a crime. So oddly enough, they don't want to advertise their identity. Nor release to the public a lot of presumably classified information backing it up.
Bad news for Roger Stone (Score:5, Informative)
1 kevin bacon from Trump himself (Score:2)
Trump, stone, GRU, DNC. no other cutouts.
Not just communicating, which might be casual, but also being the first (we know of) to know what's in the wikileaks data ahead of time.
Re: 1 kevin bacon from Trump himself (Score:5, Insightful)
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Nothing so drastic. Everybody likes Chinese food. Borscht, not so much.
local hack = Seth Rich (Score:2, Insightful)
Uploaded at 22MB/sec (capital B), or so goes the narrative. That's a nice upload circuit. Why is is suspiciously close to the expected transfer rate of a USB2 drive? Gee I wonder.
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Because once data is "hacked" from one server, it is physically impossible to move it onto another computer and/or device. It had to remain on this guy's hard disk in Russia.
Or perhaps that's not actually true....
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Creation times are maintained from one device to another.
No, creation times can be maintained from one device to another. It's up to the driver, filesystem and OS to actually do so. And for no one to use any basic utilities to alter them.
The only way that happens is if they were copied locally.
And your evidence that the local copy happened at the DNC is.......?
The files probably passed through multiple servers between when it was exfiltrated from the DNC and when it showed up at Wikileaks - you typically do not directly copy the pilfered data to your workstation, for example. And you typically back up the data. And
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Because the creation times were created when the data was downloaded off the server. They will then never be altered because the creation time is set when a file is created, not when it is copied.
Ok, let's walk through this slowly for you.
I steal the files from the DNC. I exfiltrate them from the DNC's server to my server somewhere on the Internet. Creation times set.
Then I download them from my server on the Internet to a local server. Creation times set.
Then I download them from my local server to my workstation to dig into them. Creation times set.
Then I upload the "interesting" files to the local server. Creation times set.
Then I download the "interesting" files to removable media in order
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Hardly a "hack" more of a leak.
All Seth had to do was copy a .pst file to a USB stick and send that to wikileaks. Seth had access, there would be nothing to it.
No hack, no conspiracy.
Seth had motive to that also. Seth was Bernie supporter, and was understandable unhappy to see Bernie robbed of the nomination.
The Seth theory is actually the anti-conspiracy theory. The Russia theory is the far-fetched conspiracy theory - especially if it involves Trump.
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When there is 0 proof, it's called a conspiracy. And of course you're ignoring the findings of the CIA, FBI, and NSA.
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You mean the ones that don't exist? Clapper - the guy who committed perjury before Congress while spying on Congress - handpicked analysts to come up with a story. And if you're handpicking the analysts, you're handpicking the results as well.
Don't forget your tinfoil hat on the way out.
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IP addresses mean jack shit (Score:2, Informative)
Every newbie hacker knows how to reroute his traffic or even (in some cases) make it appear to come from somewhere else. You just claim a "professional hacker" can't pull off what any scriptkiddy manages to do? Masking your IP address is hacking 101.
Please. Give me better evidence than that. Quite bluntly, if I wanted to send you on a wild goose chase, I'd make sure to include one such "blunder".
Re:IP addresses mean jack shit (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:IP addresses mean jack shit (Score:4, Insightful)
Even if you want to argue that the intelligence organizations are not staffed by your typical rank and file idiots, highly skilled, very intelligent people are still capable of making mistakes. Even though the odds of those are quite small by themselves, doing something enough times makes it likely to have slipped up somewhere.
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It's also much easier to screw up digitally than physically... and much harder to undo.
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Why would someone in Russia do the one any only thing that would get Russia detected?
A super easy to find tail back to Russia?
Russian code litter led to be found?
Russian spy method are then all over the Western media in real time?
Reading about the GRU and code litter would tell Russian about its fictional "missions" in the US news?
Who would allow the USA to
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Governments have processes. Twice so if Russian. "The average Ruskie, son, don't take a dump without a plan." isn't just a quote from a movie, it's reality. For some people, process is what should be followed. For some, something that must be followed. But I haven't seen a Russian for whom it isn't just something that IS BEING followed because IT IS BEING FOLLOWED. There is no can, should, may or must. There is only IS. No option. No question. No discussion. This is how it is done if it is done or it isn't
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Making their external IP appear to be an innocuous business wouldn't help much. It would not take long to notice a whole lot of attacks are coming from that innocuous IP and figure out it's not so innocuous. And probably not that hard to tie it back to the GRU by correlating the attacks with other information.
VPNs let them change their IP far more frequently, preventing that correlation. Now, they should have configured their system to automatically connect to the VPN and refuse to send all packets that
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If the GRU is supposed the Russian version of the NSA, then it seems unlikely that anybody could just accidentally forget to turn on the VPN. There would be a dozen safeguards to prevent that from happening.
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And yet the NSA's "toolkit" is public. There would be a dozen safeguards to prevent that from leaking.....
Re:IP addresses mean jack shit (Score:5, Insightful)
I think most of us have fucked up on occasion.
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> Masking your IP address is hacking 101.
And even super smart people accidentally fucking up that one time out of 10,000 and getting caught has also been "getting caught 101" since the beginning of time.
How'd they nail that Silk Road guy? Because he fucked up with his gmail address once. How'd they nail Berkowitz (aka the Son of Sam)? A parking ticket.
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If you'll believe some anonymous US intelligence source that, contrary to the findings of many courts in copyright infringement lawsuits, an IP address uniquely identifies a person, I have a bridge to sell you. And a prime island in New York City, only occupied by one rather large green lady.
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> If you'll believe some anonymous US intelligence source that, contrary to the findings of many courts in copyright infringement lawsuits, an IP address uniquely identifies a person, I have a bridge to sell you. And a prime island in New York City, only occupied by one rather large green lady.
Cool, will you throw in Coney Island too? I've always wanted an amusement park.
Nobody with a brain would correlate IP = person. However let's assume this is US intelligence source is correct that Guccifer had act
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This could be a Chinese plot to make the Russians look bad. Or a clever lad in Saskatchewan doing the same. Or a Russian. Or someone from New Zealand. No way of telling, really, until and unless they actually catch the guy...
So you're saying there's a VPN I can use that runs out of the GRU's headquarters?
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How easy is masking your IP address as a particular GRU officer working out of the agency’s headquarters on Grizodubovoy Street in Moscow?
"Guccifer 2.0 sprang into existence on June 15, 2016, hours after a report by a computer security firm forensically tied Russia to an intrusion at the Democratic National Committee. In a series of blog posts and tweets over the following seven months—conspicuously ending right as Trump took office and not resuming—the Guccifer persona published a smatter
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Depends on the protocol used. DNS reflection DDoS attacks are based on the fact that UDP is connectionless and it's trivially easy to make the server answer the wrong IP. TCP is far more tricky since you have to spoof the handshake without knowing when and how the answers come, but even that's doable (depending on how well the server is hardened).
I have to give you that it's nontrivial to fake a lengthy transaction because your chance of not fucking up sink with every challenge-response pair, but it's doabl
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If you could manage to read aaaaaaalllllllll the way to the 4th sentence of the summary, you'll find out he forgot to turn on the VPN once.
I eagerly await your claim that no one ever makes a mistake.
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Without going into detail: I actually cannot "forget" to turn the VPN on when I'm working. Case in point, I can't even deliberately circumvent it if I wanted. And I would be incredibly surprised if something like the Russian secret service doesn't have something like this in place if even our rather insignificant outfit has these security precautions in place.
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There's nothing weird or surprising about this evidence, it's a typical story about this sort of thing.
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This is the part I have problems with: How is it possible THAT he screws up?
I'm in IT security. And sometimes we need to use VPN services so it doesn't spook the admins when they see unusual traffic from a range they know well (because it would lead to "quick, ramp up the defenses, we're being audited"). And even we, "hacking" systems that we ARE ALLOWED TO hack because the owner of the systems hires us, set up an infrastructure that takes the whole VPN problem out of our hands so we CANNOT fuck up. It is s
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It's a question more than a defense. I question the stupidity of the Russian secret service implied here.
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I don't know what constitutes this "proof" of the Russian IP address. If it's a lengthy session over a connection based protocol like TCP, I'd be amazed if someone can pull a spoof of. I could maybe fake a handshake, but anything that requires a lengthy exchange is probably out of my league. Then again, my expertise is not in faking my IP source. If it's important to you, I'll ask around at work whether someone had to do something like that before.
The more I need to know from the answer the server gives, th
It's an old Cold War tactic (Score:2)
Hello there, my capitalist pigs! Why are you watching this channel, when my own comrades are already watching me and Yuri, and U.S.A! There is nothingk of interest here, but maybe you want to save a Nigerian prince, so if you just send me the winning powerball ticket, we can split the winnings 50-50!
But the best news is that I will no longer use the nick Guccifer. I think Keyser Soze has a better ring to it.
You and I will never know (Score:5, Insightful)
The professional excellence and utter dishonesty of both the Russian state intelligence apparatus and the American deep state make any informed, verifiable determination impossible. The spooks and their masters are pretty damned good at their obfuscation and disinformation games.
Rather than hitch oneself to a favorite political or ideological bandwagon, I prefer to adhere to a finely-crafted and well-tuned cynicism that demands treating this and every other spy versus spy story as low comedy.
It makes for passable diversion as I read such stories while comfortably relaxing in Diogenes' pithos.
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Any want is moot. Clearly, everybody already is bad.
Who's being naive, you self-righteous little twat?
DailyBeast owned by IAC & Chelsea Clinton sits (Score:2)
board.
Or so I've read.
https://medium.com/@jashobell/the-daily-beast-is-owned-by-iac-and-chelsea-clinton-sits-on-their-board-of-directors-d6978d1e9ee5
Do we haven an actual individual ? (Score:2)
Somebody we can exonerate, and put under oath? Somebody who can be put in prison if any of this is true?
But we must first have ironclad proof (Score:2, Funny)
Look, I'm unconvinced that Guccifer 2.0 is a GRU agent, and it's going to take a lot more than two-bit analysis of easily forged logs to convince me of this.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have work to do. Apparently some people out there still don't believe that Hillary Clinton was running a child-sex-slave ring in the basements of multiple pizza parlours nationwide, and I've got to set them straight.
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- Guccifer 2.0 story relies entirely on the usual anonymous sources
- dailybeast broke the story and Chelsea Clinton sits on the board of their parent company IAC
http://iac.com/about/leadership/board-directors/chelsea-clinton
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/daily-beast-parent-iac-beats-quarterly-expectations-2017-02-01
for all we know, the anonymous source was Hillary Clinton.
- IP addresses are easy to spoof and therefore do not mean much
- It seems unlikely that the GRU internet access would have IPs pointin
Yet more cyberbullshit .. (Score:2)
Re:DNC Hacker (Score:5, Interesting)
Trump's lead lawyer resigned yesterday [cnn.com] and four other top law firms refused to represent him [thehill.com].
Re:DNC Hacker (Score:5, Funny)
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Trump dosent need those dotards. He is now going to represent himself and testify in front of Mueller. I was losing faith in him, but with this it is restored.
Har de har ...
Yeah, he might be doomed this time ... what is this, like the 500th time he's been doomed?
Or, you might be Wile E Coyote ... with your can't fail Acme thing about to fall on your head, again. We'll see.
My money's on the anvil, just from the track record so far ...
Re: DNC Hacker (Score:2)
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I wouldn't exactly describe a gaggle of attorneys who feel themselves professionally inadequate to represent the President as a "top" law firm.
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Poetic justice my ass.
Things worked out the way they did because of the vote.
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I'm going to need an 'Urban Dictionary' cite for that...
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Sorry to deviate from topic...talking about Russian interference and hacking in the election overall...
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Can IP addresses be spoofed? Yes, so it must not be Russia.
Can data transfers be rate limited? Certainly not, so it has to be an internal job.
Glad I could clear that up for you.
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What on Earth did you just say that wasn't already pointed out?
I pointed out that a lot of the posts here are hypocritical. And apparently you also. I'll say it again slowly. You can't say it's impossible to to meter a data transfer, and simple and easy
No way in hell they have an ISP with that as an UPLOAD rating, and even if locally on the LAN, that would require a gigabit connectivity.
https://www.att-services.net/a... [att-services.net]
I have it at my house. It's this little known technology known as fiber. Have you heard of it? It as symmetrical up / down. I get ~900Mb/s both ways.
Now, could a Russian operative have bandwidth as good as what I can get for $80 / month? Hmmm....
and even if locally on the LAN, that would require a gigabit connectivity
Yes and who has $50 to buy a gigabit route
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Bullshit! Almost 2GB of a 7Z archive transferred at a sustained rate of nearly 23MB/s.
What you are saying is so ridiculous it's comical. I even linked the proof that any consumer can buy that for $80 / month, which you then called "bullshit" lol.
Go away and find another thread to troll where you can make sense.
Because we don't want a hostile foreign power (Score:2)
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Supposedly, this is was a major criminal act from a hostile foreign power. Why would the FBI even consider getting approval from the DNC, rather than subpoenaing the alleged evidence or even skipping that step by sending them a 'national security letter'? Russiagate plothole #1,278.
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Hillary consciously choose to eschew secure federal email and instead contracted a consultant to arrange a private server for all work-related emails - care to argue her private server was more secure than the State Department's servers?
Hi, Hilary Clinton is no longer running for president. You'll have to find a new bogeyman in your attempts to distract the US populace from the actual, present dangers facing us.
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Uh huh. And how much time did you spend complaining about Pence's private email from Indiana? And yes, Hillary will continue to be relevant, since:
1) President Trump is only a thing because of Hillary Clinton
2) All the crap Russiagaters accuse Trump of doing (without any evidence) Hillary was actually guilty of. Not only did she
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Uh huh. And how much time did you spend complaining about Pence's private email from Indiana? And yes, Hillary will continue to be relevant, since:
I don't even know what that is. And if I did, I'm 100% sure the answer would no "zero".
You see, normal people with 1/2 a brain are capable of evaluating facts without constantly saying "what about ...". It's a skill but I think you could learn it too.
All the crap Russiagaters accuse Trump of doing (without any evidence) Hillary was actually guilty of. Not only did she conspire with foreign intelligence agents, she paid them for dirt on her opponent.
I know comrade. Your handlers told you to just keep repeating lies over and over and eventually you'll sway the dumb people. It doesn't even matter if you don't supply any facts!
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Sorry to hear you were dropped on the head as a child - early and often. Trump has faced a ten month long investigation from Mueller on a theory, for something that Hillary did in fact. The only response available is "sure, keep investigating Trump but Hillary should have been indicted last year".
Otherwise, not only are you a political hack, yo
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The only response available is "sure, keep investigating Trump but Hillary should have been indicted last year".
Funny isn't it. Trump controlled government. Trump controlled house. Trump appointed FBI director. And so on. Yet for some reason, they aren't able to indict this person that is apparently the biggest criminal of the last 50 years? Oh but forget Trump, they've been trying to find something on H for the last 10 years. Yet still, nothing?
It's so strange, and hard to explain.
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For dullards, maybe. Hillary isn't going to be prosecuted by Trump's DOJ for the same reason Bill's DOJ dropped the Iran Contra investigation: to continue the de facto immunity to high crimes and misdemeanors. If an administration of either party started upholding the law to politicians, the deep state, and the military-industrial complex, the bubble propping up the American Empire might just pop. Trump sends Hillary to prison for mishandling classified information, C
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Hillary isn't going to be prosecuted by Trump's DOJ for the same reason Bill's DOJ dropped the Iran Contra investigation
Isn't "pee-lover" Trump already being investigated?
Trump sends Hillary to prison for mishandling classified information
Hilary was already investigated. For years, and nothing.
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It's of mild interest to anyone concerned that a foreign government may have interfered with the US election. It won't reverse the result now, but it might help prevent it happening next time.
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At least the file copies where done locally based on the files creation times because the time offsets between the files wouldn't allow them to be transferred over standard speed internet links.
Because it's not possible to copy a file locally and then transmit it. It's also not possible to preserve a timestamp when copying a file over the Internet. It's also not possible for the data to have been copied locally after it was exfiltrated.
Timestamps are not at all conclusive of anything.
So.. I'm wondering.. Why do we care about the DNC getting hacked at this point? What difference at this point does it make?
Because if the Russia claims are actually true, then some laws have been broken.
It would be good to enforce the laws instead of saying "We're just going to look forward" yet again.
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Then WHY did the DNC not accept FBI assistance in figuring out who the criminal was?
I think the issue here is not that the DNC was hacked because both parties where hacked. But the issue is how the DNC decided to deal with it, refusing FBI assistance and obfuscating any possible evidence that could be used in a criminal prosecution by sending their equipment off to be "evaluated" by a third party.
After the DNC refuses the FBI's assistance in tracking down criminal hackers in their systems, they lose the
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Then WHY did the DNC not accept FBI assistance in figuring out who the criminal was?
The DNC lost an election to a Nacho Cheese Dorito with a bad comb-over that spent the campaign spewing neo-Nazi talking points.
Why didn't the DNC go to the FBI? They're fucking idiots.
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Assuming we are discussing the same DNC hacking instance.... The evidence shows that this was an inside job. At least the file copies where done locally based on the files creation times because the time offsets between the files wouldn't allow them to be transferred over standard speed internet links.
Source? I feel like you're climbing out on a very narrow technical limb, I can think of a lot of ways for creation times to end up close together. Hell, if I was the GRU hacker I'd keep my hacking machine on a different network than my other machines. And how would I then move the emails from one box to another? I'd copy them to a USB.
It's hard to know for sure though until we find out how the intruder was getting in and data out. But... We won't really ever find out for sure.
We never know anything for sure, but the evidence seems to be pretty overwhelming unless you're really desperate to believe something else.
So.. I'm wondering.. Why do we care about the DNC getting hacked at this point? What difference at this point does it make?
Because our worry isn't that Trump g
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> Source?
Research Shows Guccifer 2.0 Files Were Copied Locally Suggesting DNC Not "Hacked By Russians"
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-10/new-research-shows-guccifer-20-files-were-copied-locally-dnc-not-hacked-russians
>> So.. I'm wondering.. Why do we care about the DNC getting hacked at this point? What difference at this point does it make?
> Because our worry isn't that Trump gets caught for conspiring with a foreign power to win an election, our worry is he gets away with it and then he
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FTFY
Russiagate plothole #2,567: why would Russia try to swing the election to either the Democrats or the Republicans when both parties have been vir
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Russiagate plothole #2,567: why would Russia try to swing the election to either the Democrats or the Republicans when both parties have been virulently anti-Russian for over a century.
Are you playing dumb or have you just not been paying attention?
One of the most notable aspects of Trump is how pro-Russian he's been, and how much he wants to drop the various sanctions against Russia. Heck, Flynn was fired because he got caught secretly phoning the Russian ambassador to say that Trump would drop the election sanctions, and after a massive bi-partisan bill instructing Trump to implement more sanctions (and not drop the existing one) Trump basically ignored it.
Russiagate plothole #3,789: why is it that Putin was so diabolically clever that he knew years in advance that a bankrupt professional wresting character could be president, yet at the same time be so stupid as to not predict any blowback.
The Steele dossier being large
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AYFKM? Under Trump, our moderate headchopping friends in ISIS just magically got targeting information precise enough to kill Russian generals in Syria with mortar fire. Trump is illegally staying in Syria indefinitely, a country Russia is defending from the aforementioned moderate headchoppers and organ eaters.
Trump has maintained high troop levels in eastern Europe, want
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Under Trump, our moderate headchopping friends in ISIS just magically got targeting information precise enough to kill Russian generals in Syria with mortar fire.
So you're saying that Trump gave ISIS the location of Russian generals? That's a novel conspiracy theory.
I suppose you actually meant the remnants of the modern rebels, in that case I honestly don't know the legitimacy of your theory though would point out that Trump is still subject to constraints.
Trump has maintained high troop levels in eastern Europe, wants to arm our literal neo-Nazi pals
You either don't understand the word "literal" or you read waaaaay too much Russian propaganda.
Yes, there exist neo-Nazis in Ukraine, but they have less influence on Ukrainian than American neo-Nazis have on the
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The U.S. has been in Iraq and Afghanistan for over 15 years, and other countries almost as long. How many U.S. generals has Al Queda/ISIS/Taliban been able to magically target with mortars.
You you were saying? [thehill.com]
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"The evidence shows that this was an inside job." What evidence?
"We won't really ever find out for sure." So you're sure it was an inside job because of "evidence", but then you're also sure we can't know what happened?
Why we care is because it potentially undermined our free elections as it was obviously used by the Trump campaign against Clinton.
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Uh, the evidence was mentioned in the very next sentence. Reading comprehension, it's not just for kids anymore.
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He may not have even used the spearfishing since the password was easy to guess and that may have been a completely different attack.
As I recall, the story [thehill.com] is Podesta got a spearfish email asking him for his email password.
Podesta assistant asked IT staffer if it was legit, staffer assured him it was "legitimate".
Podesta's gmail account was scooped up by hackers.
Podesta's emails were put on selective public display.
Podesta's IT staffer that assured him the spearfish email was a "legitimate" email blamed a typo, he meant to say "it was illegitimate", but only typed "it is legitimate".
Podesta's IT staffer feels really bad about typo.
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2) Podesta email hack, spearfishing attack but his email password was "password". If I remember right, THIS is the hack Guiccifer 2.0 took credit for.
Do you have a source on that?
It's not unbelievable (Score:3)
What I'm saying is that Putin doesn't respect us. And given the results of the last election it's getting harder to argue with the man. Literally as well as figuratively.
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This story is ludicrous.
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Except the long history here is of that particular chemical weapon being out of the bag. Anyone could have done it, and no one has presented any evidence that Russia was responsible. Given how many times the same sorts of people have told blatant lies (Iraqi WMD's) or had to retract Russiagate claims that have fallen apart, waiting for evidence is only justifiable response here.
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Because it's impossible for someone to make a mistake one time out of many, many instances.
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Top-level Russian Spy super-hacker just happened to use his Kremlin IP address. Yeah, I bet it happened just like that.
Totally! What really probably happened, was that the real Guccifer 2.0 hacked the GRU, compromised one of their machines, and then remoted in and sent messages from there for the lulz.
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In India when the current hindu right wing administration got into power in 2014, someone from the home ministry (or close to Prime Ministers office) was identified as debasing Wikipedia articles on Jawaharlal Nehru, India's first Prime Minister, and a true giant of a statesman.
The current PM Modi may understand he has differences of opinion about Nehru and his contributions to Ind
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> Patreus was head of the CIA and was dumb enough . . .
Being the head of the CIA does not make you a top-level Spy super-hacker. Typically the head of the CIA is a not a techie.
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I consider the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity a very credible source. Their VIPS memos are at consortiumnews.com , Ray Mcgovern has his own site and Scott Horton (libertarianinstitute.org )does an hour long interview with him every few months. The alternative explanation Ray McGovern gives is that when the Clinton campaign found out Wikileaks was going to publish their mails they had to take drastic measures because people were going to find out they bought up the DNC and stole the primaries
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It's outrageous that these two stories (stealing the election and manufacturing the Russiagate narrative ) don't even exist in the mainstream.
Nah, it just means people aren't all that dumb after all.
So the DNC under Clinton is the source for the Russiagate narrative and for the analysis of the theft(Crowdstrike), as well as for the Steele dossier.
Sure thing comrade. Now report to your superiors about your progress undermining the capitalist pigs.
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Okay. whoosh.