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Trump Proposes Joint 'Cyber Security Unit' With Russia, Then Quickly Backs Away From It (arstechnica.com) 389

In a series of tweets yesterday, President Trump proposed "an impenetrable Cyber Security unit" with Putin "so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded and safe." The news came as a shock to just about everyone who got word of it, including congressional members of his own GOP party. Less than 24 hours later, Trump decided against it, tweeting: "The fact that President Putin and I discussed a Cyber Security unit doesn't mean I think it can happen. It can't-but a ceasefire can,& did!" Ars Technica reports: "It's not the dumbest idea I have ever heard, but it's pretty close," Senator Lindsey Graham, a Republican of South Carolina, said of the plan. Senate Republican Marco Rubio of Florida tweeted that "partnering with Putin on a 'Cyber Security Unit' is akin to partnering with [Syrian President Bashar] Assad on a 'Chemical Weapons Unit."' Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said that Trump and the Russian president decided at a meeting during a Group of 20 nations summit in Hamburg, Germany, to embark on a joint "cyber unit to make sure that there was absolutely no interference whatsoever, that they would work on cyber security together." But on Sunday, after it was clear that the plan was going nowhere, Trump took to Twitter and said no deal. That didn't stop Rep. Don Beyer, a Democrat from Virginia, from introducing on Monday an amendment to the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act that would bar a US-Russian cyber accord. He said: "Donald Trump's proposal to form a 'cyber security unit' with Putin is a terrible idea that would immediately jeopardize American cybersecurity... Trump must acknowledge that Russia interfered in the 2016 election and take strong, meaningful action to prevent it from happening again in future elections."
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Trump Proposes Joint 'Cyber Security Unit' With Russia, Then Quickly Backs Away From It

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 10, 2017 @11:38PM (#54783367)

    That was an even bigger flip flop than when went from, "There was no collusion" to " Collusion isn't even illegal anyway, what me worry".

  • Just lol (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 10, 2017 @11:39PM (#54783373)

    Our president tweets every half baked idea he has and then the rest of the government has to scramble to make sense of or defuse the tweet. It's all fuckin funny

    • Re:Just lol (Score:5, Insightful)

      by jandersen ( 462034 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @03:58AM (#54784189)

      A bit like the Pythia at the temple of Apollo, who would generally speak gibberish, that her priests would then interpret. I don't know if it is funny, but perhaps it will be if we live long enough. But we are only about half a year into his precidency, and already Honey Monster is rushing towards a military confrontation with the beached whale in North Korea. I mean, think about that; the Chinese have since the Korea War, kept NK as a buffer between themselves and America's vassal state in the south, and they are increasingly assertive about their territorial aspirations. Will they just sit quietly by while Trump sends troops into NK, provoking them to use whatever nuclear weapons they have and escalating from there? Hardly - I doubt they are all that keen on Kim's perverse regime, but they definitely don't want American expansion in the region, and they do have an alliance with NK, which gives them a legitimate excuse to join the war. North Korea may be easy enough to flatten, but China isn't. The US may have enough weaponry to convert China to a slag heap, but not before they have sent their own missiles on the way - and they do have enough of those, without a doubt.

    • While it's funny, imagine other scenarios with other leaders. People are always hanging on leader's words. Kim Jong Un always followed by generals holding notebook and pencil, ready to write down any words of wisdom. Turkmenistan, where the president for life (now dead) renamed all the months of the year. Imagine an absolute ruler a thousand years ago, maybe senile, maybe mad, everyone jumping at every word and taking it seriously.

      Anyway, some perspective. No matter how crazy Trump seems, it's relatively m

  • Yes, please Mr. Putin. The CIA, the FBI, and the NSA collectively can't seem to muster the resources to secure a copy of Windows. Can you please send us some ex-KGB experts to help with the leaks?

  • by JoeyRox ( 2711699 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @12:27AM (#54783619)
    Considering Trump Jr. has admitted he met with a Russian lawyer (along with Kushner) during the campaign to get dirt on Hillary in combination with the revelation in today's NYT about an email Trump Jr. received specifically saying the information he was about to be provided by the lawyer came from the Russian government, this administration should now be considered captured by a foreign hostile government and thus enjoined from any contact or decision making related to that government until Robert Mueller's investigation has been completed.
    • by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @12:55AM (#54783711)

      Considering Trump Jr. has admitted he met with a Russian lawyer (along with Kushner) during the campaign to get dirt on Hillary ...

      More importantly, that particular news was "leaked" by three White House staffers at pretty much the same time, all of whom stated (unusually, for this administration) they could be attributed as White House staffers... meaning it was an intentional leak, and was likely an attempt to get ahead of something even more damaging that may be coming out soon.

      • by houghi ( 78078 )

        I would not look surprised if those leaks came from Russia as well. First they help him to power (by getting people not to vote for Clinton) then they undermine his power by giving away this kind of information.

        If the same thing would happen in Russia, two things could happen (one not excluding the other)
        1) The person mentioning it will get made dead
        2) Putin will say "So fucking what? I also use my own email server. " and go on.

  • Let's face it.... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @12:34AM (#54783647)

    ...this so-called president is an idiot who is in waaaaaaaaaaaay over his head.

    • Re:Let's face it.... (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @01:26AM (#54783795)

      Well, yeah. That's been obvious for a while. Trump is conclusive proof the Peter principal has no upward bound.

      What's a problem, though, is thats Trump's supports don't support him for rational reasons. They've attached their identity to him and see any criticism of Trump as criticism of themselves. (For proof, look no further than any Trump supporter in this thread)

      GOP's got two big problems. How to save their asses, and how to bring their voter base down off this problem gracefully. If Trump leaves office with a shitstorm things will get ugly.

      • Re:Let's face it.... (Score:4, Interesting)

        by citylivin ( 1250770 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @02:37PM (#54788187)

        "how to bring their voter base down off this problem gracefully. If Trump leaves office with a shitstorm things will get ugly."

        I have to disagree there. I have been watching american elections for 20 years and if there is one thing thats reliable, its that its always like 51% to 49%. Between 2% and 10% of the actual electorate is swayed by things like infidelity and war mongering. The rest just vote on party lines. I really don't think trump could ever be bad enough to seriously change that. I mean look at bush. Perhaps the most hated president in recent history and yet obama barely won, 53% to 46%. 46% of americans voted to continue down the road bush was on. And you had a great recession come in at the same time (arguably a gigantic disaster, like you are saying trump may cause) and yet they STILL didn't want to change course!

        Face it, 90% of americans are just like this. Its in their nature to support whatever side they believe in no matter what.

    • Yeah well, he got everybody to forget about Bush... And remember when Nixon was the bottom of the barrel? I guess records are meant to be broken.

      • Yeah well, he got everybody to forget about Bush... And remember when Nixon was the bottom of the barrel? I guess records are meant to be broken.

        Soooooooo.... you guys miss me yet?

        -- George W. Bush

    • by dohzer ( 867770 )

      ... and he also has small feet!

    • by no-body ( 127863 )

      ...this so-called president is an idiot who is in waaaaaaaaaaaay over his head.

      and he keeps getting attention - does he deserve it?
      If so, why?

      • ...this so-called president is an idiot who is in waaaaaaaaaaaay over his head.

        and he keeps getting attention - does he deserve it? If so, why?

        Because he is the President of the United States, still a position with a lot of influence.

        Because despite his record-low approval ratings, there are still many people that support him.

        Because he is aligned with a political party that in many ways just as idiotic.

    • ...this so-called president is an idiot who is in waaaaaaaaaaaay over his head.

      And you should be thanking GOD for that! A POTUS that fumbles around is far less dangerous that a Clinton administration that knowingly sold, and would continue to sell, America out and it's future interests. She's a globalist! She's the embodiment of totalitarianism!!!! FFS, look at her Mao suits; she definitely doesn't hide who she really is!

  • He's just showing initiative on getting re-elected. Might as well get the assisting apparatus in place now so it has plenty of time to dig dirt on his political enemies. Vlad can't quite understand why he doesn't just kill all the hostile reporters like he did.
  • by mean pun ( 717227 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @03:56AM (#54784183)
    Yes, the rest of the world is watching as well. In horrified amusement: http://www.volkskrant.nl/foto/... [volkskrant.nl]
  • by Lisandro ( 799651 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @05:00AM (#54784381)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0... [nytimes.com]

    But, his emails!

  • by MoarSauce123 ( 3641185 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @07:37AM (#54784843)
    Can we end the experiment with a mentally unstable egomaniac as President? The project failed and running it any longer will only have long-lasting negative effects. Nobody can take anything that Trump does or says seriously. We run out of superlatives to describe his stupidity and ineptitude.
  • "It's not the dumbest idea I have ever heard, but it's pretty close," Senator Lindsey Graham, a Republican of South Carolina, said of the plan

    Of course not! Graham has heard other Trump ideas.

  • by volodymyrbiryuk ( 4780959 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @08:44AM (#54785139)
    Another brainfart from the great orange leader. Next he is going to tell us that he wants to colaborate with Kim Jong-un to furthe nuclear disarmamanet. There will be so much winning.
  • Partnering with Putin on cybersecurity is like partnering with Donald Trump to make something great again.

  • Do the people of Slash Dot all of a sudden now believe that Russian hackers are the ones the leaked Hillary's emails?? Gosh I remember when people here actually looked at fact and plausibility and didn't just believe something because some one repeated it over and over and over again. News for nerds? I think that title should certainly be changed.
  • Once we uncover where Trump has been getting the funding for his various projects over the past 10 years or so it will be apparent why Trump is in love with Russia and Putin. Putin and his gaggle of Russian billionaire cronies is most likely the source of The Donald's investment capital, probably routed through foreign banks like Deutsch Bank. We know U.S. banks quit loaning The Donald money after the first few bankruptcies.

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