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Gary Johnson: I'd Consider Pardoning Snowden, Chelsea Manning (vocativ.com) 264

An anonymous reader writes from a report via Vocativ: [Vocativ reports:] "The U.S.'s most popular third-party presidential candidate says he would 'consider' pardoning the highest profile convicts of computer-related crimes in the country, including Chelsea Manning, Ross Ulbricht, and Jeremy Hammond. Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, a former governor of New Mexico, also reiterated his possible willingness to pardon Edward Snowden, the former National Security Agency analyst who gave a cache of agency documents to journalists in 2013." "Having actually served as a governor and administered the power to grant pardons and clemency, Gary Johnson is very conscious and respectful of the need for processes for using that authority," Joe Hunter, Johnson's communications director, told Vocativ in a statement. "However, he has made it clear on numerous occasions that he would 'look seriously at' pardoning Edward Snowden, based on public information that Snowden's actions did not cause actual harm to any U.S. intelligence personnel. Likewise, he has said he would look favorably on pardoning Ross Ulbricht, consistent with his broader and long-standing commitment to pardon nonviolent drug offenders, whistleblowers, and others imprisoned under unjust and ill-advised laws," Hunter said. When Vocativ asked specifically about Chelsea Manning, Jeremy Hammond, Barrett Brown, and Matthew Keys, Hunter responded: "The same goes for the other individuals you have mentioned -- and hundreds, if not thousands, like them. Gov. Johnson finds it to be an outrage that the U.S. has the highest incarceration rate in the developed world, and announced in 2012 that, as President, he would promptly commence the process of pardoning nonviolent offenders who have done no real harm to others." The Green Party candidate Jill Stein has also shared her thoughts on pardoning Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. Not only would she pardon Snowden, but she said she would appoint him to her cabinet.
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Gary Johnson: I'd Consider Pardoning Snowden, Chelsea Manning

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  • by chill ( 34294 ) on Thursday July 28, 2016 @04:43PM (#52602671) Journal

    ~Yeah, I can *so* see Edward Snowden getting a confirmation from the U.S. Senate.~ It is only slightly more probable than Jill Stein getting elected to President.

    • by amiga3D ( 567632 )

      I just hope she gets a chance to be in the debates. I'd love to see Johnson, Trump, Stein and Hilliary at each other's throats. Awesome.

      • She cant. She needs to have more than 15% in the polling to be get a debate spot. Neither will Johnson for the same reason, though Johnson is close in some polls.

  • The U.S.'s most popular third-party presidential candidate says he would 'consider' pardoning the highest profile convicts of computer-related crimes in the country, including Chelsea Manning, Ross Ulbricht, and Jeremy Hammond.

    Interesting way to put it, third-party presidential candidate, since 'coming in a distant third' would have done it.

  • The Libertarian Party is obsessed with legalizing pot and pardoning criminals that divulge national security secrets. These might be valid things to do, but are about 9,743rd on the list of barriers to living in a country that fully embraces freedom. What is a small-L libertarian supposed to do these days? Do I really have to bet all my chips on seasteading?!

  • " Do or do not. There is no try. "

    You don't consider such things. Quit being wishy-washy about it, make a damn decision and stand behind it.

    You're either going to pardon someone, or you're not.

  • Given that the current two candidates are basically unappointable [1], third party candidates should be looked at more seriously.

    The promise of pardoning heroic men like Snowden and Manning can be a major point for some voters.

    [1] Insofar as any US citizen would have to be batshit insane to vote for either of them.

    • Given that the current two candidates are basically unappointable [1], third party candidates should be looked at more seriously.

      The promise of pardoning heroic men like Snowden and Manning can be a major point for some voters.

      [1] Insofar as any US citizen would have to be batshit insane to vote for either of them.

      Manning would be crushed to be let out of prison. He's in buttsex paradise

    • third party candidates should be looked at more seriously.

      I agree with you but both parties are using the implied threat of the other party being able to nominate three justices to the Supreme Court as a hammer to keep voters from considering the third party candidates.

  • by saccade.com ( 771661 ) on Thursday July 28, 2016 @08:32PM (#52603909) Homepage Journal
    Snowden & Manning are whistle-blowers. They were motivated by correcting what the perceived as illegal or immoral actions by the government. They had little to personally gain (and a lot to lose) by their actions. Ulbricht, on the other hand was motivated by greed. His willingness to commission murder-for-hire in order to keep his cash machine going justifies his conviction.
    • Manning didn't blow any whistles. It was falsely claimed that he revealed war crimes, but once the legitimate combat actions were revealed and analyzed by people who actually know what constitutes a war crime no crimes were found. Manning simply applied a hoover to the classified network and then dumped it to WikiLeaks out of spite because he was mad at the Army. He committed espionage and is rightly serving a nice long term as a result. We the tax payers should not be paying one cent towards gender ass
    • I agree as well. I am not familiar with Chelsea, but I am with Snowden. I would be for a pardon and here is why. I believe there is a difference between being a traitor to your government and being a traitor to your country. I see his actions as treasonous to the government but patriotic to the country.
  • I'd consider pardoning Snowden, Manning, and Clinton.... LOL

  • In other words, he will pander for votes like every other politician. You don't make wishy washy statements about these things, you either believe it is the right thing to do or you don't.
  • Yes the US has far too many people in jails and prisons and it is largely race based. Then, what must we do about it? But the problem rests in what really are the worst crimes. Every now and then we catch some lunatic who is a serial killer who has taken several lives. But a drug seller can take far more lives than the lunatic with that big, bad life. Ad not only that, casual drug users, by being an example encourage others to use illegal drugs. For example we have Prince, who will be considered a rol
  • I am not familiar with Chelsea, but I am with Snowden. I would be for a pardon and here is why. I believe there is a difference between being a traitor to your government and being a traitor to your country. I see his actions as treasonous to the government but patriotic to the country. Also, by charging him with treason, the US government declared all the US citizens as the enemy. IMO

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