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South Korea To Restart Propaganda Loudspeakers Along Border 170

Posted by timothy from the wi-fi-hot-spots-weren't-working dept.
jones_supa writes: South Korea has said that it will resume anti-Pyongyang loudspeaker broadcasts this week along the heavily fortified border with North Korea in retaliation of Pyongyang's claimed hydrogen bomb test. The broadcasts will resume at noon on Friday, told Cho Tae-yong, deputy chief of the presidential office of national security. Cho added that South Korean troops maintain combat readiness and will sternly retaliate against North Korea if Pyongyang follows with a provocation. In August, South resumed the broadcasts for the first time in 11 years in retaliation for the North's land-mine attack that maimed two South Korean soldiers. The two sides later held days of intensive high-level talks and produced a deal in which South agreed to stop propaganda broadcasts unless an abnormal situation occurs. Which now did.
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  • Comment removed (Score:5, Funny)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Thursday January 07, 2016 @11:29AM (#51255633)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion

    • Re:it was an inevitable progression, to say the le (Score:5, Funny)

      by MiniMike ( 234881 ) on Thursday January 07, 2016 @11:40AM (#51255719)

      south korea: a chipmunk christmas remix of Gangnam Style at every border outpost by tomorrow morning.

      Might constitute a war crime (torture, superfluous injury, unnecessary suffering), as technically they're still at war.

      south korea: pick up a copy of whatever Biebers got out this year while you're at it...

      Yeah, definitely a war crime...

      • Re: it was an inevitable progression, to say the l (Score:1, Interesting)

        by Anonymous Coward

        A few tracks on Biebers album that I've heard are actually good, get over yourself.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by lgw ( 121541 )

          A few tracks on Biebers album that I've heard are actually good, get over yourself.

          I'm willing to say it logged-in. There are a couple of mediocre tracks now that aren't embarrassing to listen to. To borrow a line from Penny Arcade "the new one is not all shit gravy".

          Still, I find him weirdly grating on the ears - even the OK tracks got old fast when repeated on the radio.

      • " a chipmunk christmas remix of Gangnam Style at every border outpost by tomorrow morning."

        You jest, but if all South Korea dod was set up one of those huge arrays of bigscreens at some border point where it was visible to the North, and play the Gangnam video, and the Norks would lose faith in their society.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by k6mfw ( 1182893 )

        pick up a copy of whatever Biebers got out this year while you're at it...

        Yeah, definitely a war crime...

        get the RIAA involved and someone is going to be bankrupted via lawyer fees.

    • Re:it was an inevitable progression, to say the le (Score:5, Funny)

      by jandersen ( 462034 ) on Thursday January 07, 2016 @11:57AM (#51255859)

      ... south korea: pick up a copy of whatever Biebers got out this year while you're at it...

      Look, let's not go overboard, OK? I know, the set off a H-bomb, but we should be proportionate in our response.

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by dcw3 ( 649211 )

        ... south korea: pick up a copy of whatever Biebers got out this year while you're at it...

        Look, let's not go overboard, OK? I know, the set off a H-bomb, but we should be proportionate in our response.

        Well, we already sent Rodman, we have to escalate.

      • Ok, that was funny as hell (mod up parent please). But in all reality, the fact that DPRK launches a supposed Hydrodgen Bomb and we're talking loud speakers seems that the "oppressive thieves" rhetoric seems a bit misplaced. Just saying.
    • If you're going to do that, just play the Nokia Ringtone over and over again. That will be enough to drive anyone up a wall.

      • People will keep checking their phones, no one will be able to tell when their phone actually rings...that is beyond evil.

    • Back under W, the South was going to use Celine Dion, but Dick Cheney told them even he couldn't support such a flagrant violation of the Conventions on Torture..

    • .... south korea: pick up a copy of whatever Biebers got out this year while you're at it...

      south korea: And if you happen to stumble across the Yoko Ono Box set, pick that up as well.

      • I'm sure Japan has no desire to resurrect its war crimes on the Korean Peninsula. You're flirting with a diplomatic disaster, Friend.

  • Ineffective? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    How effective are these propaganda broadcasts, really?

    If you grew up thinking the sky way red, nothing coming out of a loudspeaker (run by the enemy, no less) will convince you otherwise.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Dunbal ( 464142 ) *
      Effective enough that NK threatened to take out the loudspeakers with artillery fire.

    • Re:Ineffective? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Anubis IV ( 1279820 ) on Thursday January 07, 2016 @11:49AM (#51255807)

      My wife was telling me about a story she read regarding a North Korean defector who fled across the border to China and then eventually made it to the West. The thing that convinced him he needed to leave? A soldier from the other side of the DMZ accidentally dropped nail clippers and didn't care enough to come back and get them later. When he realized that something as "incredible" as nail clippers were basically worthless to the other side's soldiers, he knew he had been lied to about how things were outside of his country.

      Take it with the requisite grain of salt, but it's an interesting anecdote, nonetheless.

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward

        This is what terrifies Kim Jong Un. That people will realize that they've been lied to for years, and realize what they're missing.

        Pop music? Fun, upbeat pop music? From dozens of different singing groups? Enough if it to play around the clock?
        News about Park Geun-hye traveling to meetings in other countries?
        The only way this is possible is if South Korea is actually a cool place, and Kim Jong Un is a liar.

      • Oh, my goodness! I can't even imagine the state of the populace's finger and toenails. Are there long lines and rations to use the services of the state-sponsored manicurists? Is there a National Policy to advise the glorious citizens as to what their nail states should aspire to be?

        We must liberate this country of janky fingers, ingrown cuticles and hangnails in all haste!

        God Bless

    • Even more than that, question is - WHAT are they broadcasting?

      Is the message more of a 'don't try fighting us - you will lose'? Or is it more of a 'We're doing better than you - come & join us'. I'd get the value of the former. But the latter would be stupid - why would South Korea want to annex a basketcase like Nork? That's just begging to sink its economy - in the same way that Germany's economy took a dive after reunification. Yeah, I know they are both Korean nations, and there are people

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by lgw ( 121541 )

        why would South Korea want to annex a basketcase like Nork?

        For the same reason West Germany rushed to embrace East German despite the real setback that caused to their economy: compassion.

        • A strong sense of national/ethnic unity as a people - again, same as Germany. They have thousands of years of culture, nevermind there are entire extended families that are divided and kept apart (save for the rare, tearful temporary reunions sometimes agreed on by the two governments).

          It certainly wouldn't be cheap either - North Korea is in such a shambles that rebuilding it will make German reunification look cheap by comparison. One estimate I heard was that it would be something like 10 to 100 time

  • Again? (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    What they really need is to shake Kim's hands, send him their congrats and push more trade with NK to help them get out of poverty.

    Kim is not being invasive, but desperate and delusional. He needs friends and NK people need trading partners and investment to fix their shit country and become economically independent from Kim's regime - which the current foreign aid actually consolidates since Kim is the one who ultimately distributes everything.

    • North Korea's isolation is Kim's fault just as much as anyone else's. He's well aware that opening up trade internationally would end up creating a more educated and motivated populace....one that wouldn't look to kindly on their current leadership.

      Look at the dogma that has been crammed down their throat for the past 50 years....Juche is usually translated as "self-reliance". Why would Dear Leader want to open up trade to the world when he's convinced the populace that they don't need it?
      https://en.wikip [wikipedia.org]

      • North Korea's isolation is Kim's fault just as much as anyone else's. He's well aware that opening up trade internationally would end up creating a more educated and motivated populace....one that wouldn't look to kindly on their current leadership.

        Look at the dogma that has been crammed down their throat for the past 50 years....Juche is usually translated as "self-reliance". Why would Dear Leader want to open up trade to the world when he's convinced the populace that they don't need it?
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

        Juche is an interesting concept. I'm not sure its specific to North Korea either; the Mongolians have a saying "I'd rather suffer under my own rule than frolic under someone elses."

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by ecotax ( 303198 )
          The idea of juche may be interesting from a philosophical point of view, but in the NK practice most suffering doesn't happen at the top level of the Party.

      • North Korea's isolation is Kim's fault just as much as anyone else's. He's well aware

        I often wonder just how 'aware' he is of these things.

        He's a third generation dictator and a vicious little sociopath.

        I can't decide if he does these things because he's delusional and believed this is his right ... or if because he rationally knows the truth and does it anyway. In both scenarios he's a crazy, vicious little runt who places no value on the lives of people. The outcome is still the same.

        Of course it's his

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by AK Marc ( 707885 )

          I often wonder just how 'aware' he is of these things.

          He went to school in Switzerland. How could he not be at least a little aware?

      • Couldn't he follow China's example? Do what THEY did - open up his economy, but maintain hold on power. If his people try any tricks, he could pull a Tienanmen Square on them.

        Only problem I see - China has had regular leadership changes since then - every few years. He probably thinks that there is no way he can avoid that if he goes that route.

    • Kim is not being invasive, but desperate and delusional. He needs friends and NK people need trading partners and investment to fix their shit country and become economically independent from Kim's regime - which the current foreign aid actually consolidates since Kim is the one who ultimately distributes everything.

      Actually, he's doing what worked for decades for his father and grandfather: Do or say something crazy to get everyone's attention then get the world to offer concessions for them to stop said crazy activity. Sanctions really don't hurt regimes that have the "us against the world mentality" like the DPRK, Cuba, and to a lesser extent Iran (they do tend to hurt the populations of those countries, but the regimes truly don't really care about that). In fact generally those sanctions are used to bolster the

    • Yes, Mr. Kerry.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by DrXym ( 126579 )
      It ain't that simple. North Korea has executed people (in a variety of horrible ways) for implementing reforms. They don't want to reform or are incapable of it. And South Korea has tried to engage in limited assistance, e.g. Kaesong Industrial Region and it usually acts as a lightning rod. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets shut down again.

      South Korea shouldn't even bother trying to engage with them until the North thaws. The most likely chance of reform that is if / when dear leader drops dead or is bum

  • Original transcript (Score:5, Insightful)

    by maestroX ( 1061960 ) on Thursday January 07, 2016 @11:52AM (#51255827)

    Comrades of the Soviet Union, there is no need for this senseless bloodshed between our nations.
    The German people are not your enemy.
    If you surrender, you will be treated well.
    You will be given plenty of good, hot food and warm clothing, and if wounded, proper medical treatment.
    The German army is your friend.

  • The shelling will resume at 10 past noon on Friday.

  • Land Mine ... Attack? (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    For those wondering, South Korea accused Best Korea of sneaking across the border and planting land mines next to a South Korean guard tower. Two South Korean soldiers were maimed when it went off.

    • That whole landmine story still doesn't sit well with me. It's not very good border security if a couple guys with a backpack full of mines can just wander around un-noticed.

      Yeah, I get that they're set up against a large full scale invasion, but you'd think with all the fancy technology they have on display, and especially with previous small-team infiltrations, they would be on top of things. (I know, I know, armchair quarterbacking.)

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward

        It's a long border, guarded by unmotivated conscripted youngsters.

      • That whole landmine story still doesn't sit well with me. It's not very good border security if a couple guys with a backpack full of mines can just wander around un-noticed.

        Yeah, I get that they're set up against a large full scale invasion, but you'd think with all the fancy technology they have on display, and especially with previous small-team infiltrations, they would be on top of things. (I know, I know, armchair quarterbacking.)

        I'll armchair quarterback with you... It seems insane that anything like that could happen along a DMZ.

    • Those crazy border guards and their practical jokes.... You knew *somebody* was going to try something more than just black shoe polish on the field glasses...

  • The chances of the bomb they set off being a fusion bomb are vanishingly slim. The one they set off was probably another one of their fission bombs or possibly even a huge amount of conventional explosives. An underground test is ideal for hiding the source of the explosion, while if they actually had a fusion bomb, an above-ground explosion would prove it to the world beyond any doubt. So they want the rest of the world to think they have a fusion bomb when they clearly don't.

    So it seems that escalating te

    • That hydrogen bomb was really just ten-thousand tons of actual TNT, manufactured at great expense to meet an impossible deadline set by the world's worst boss.
  • "... unless an abnormal situation occurs. Which now did."

    North Korea's fiery rhetoric may project some laughably inaccurate claims, but at least the grammar is better than that of a Slashdot editor.

  • It is the equivalent of petting a cat the wrong way. We know it's annoying, so why do it? The only possible outcome from it is provocation.

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