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Some Trump Donors Get Fleeced By 3rd-Party Payment System 113

Posted by timothy from the not-that-kind-of-3d-party dept.
According to an article in Maine's WMTW Channel 8, some Donald Trump supporters claim they've ended up giving more than they intended to this campaign, because a since-resolved "glitch" (according to campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks) meant they were charged multiple times. From the article: "Heather Nason of Saco told WMTW News 8 that her husband was one of the affected customers. ... Nason said a series of unauthorized charges appeared on her husband's bank statement days later. She said someone tried to make 13 withdrawals from her husband's account. After the first six charges went through, the account was almost empty."
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Some Trump Donors Get Fleeced By 3rd-Party Payment System

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  • Donors??? (Score:5, Informative)

    by chris200x9 ( 2591231 ) on Friday September 18, 2015 @07:36PM (#50552885)
    Didn't Trump say he could finance his whole campaign himself?

    • Re: Donors??? (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      He also says Obama is a Muslim and not an American.

      What do you call someone who knows the truth, but continues to misrepresent it or to say something that is not true?

      Never the less "The Republican front-runner's ..." - front runner?

      A narcissistic blowhard clown who inherited his money and wrong back rut four times is the Republican front runner?

      So, that's why the Democrats have been singing " We will, we will ROCK YOU!"

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by ScentCone ( 795499 )

        What do you call someone who knows the truth, but continues to misrepresent it or to say something that is not true?

        A "Clinton"

    • I've said it before and I'll say it again: Trump is great at enriching himself, far less great at enriching his investors. Consider carefully before investing your vote.

    • Honestly, how do you think Trump has gotten himself rich if not by fleecing investors and having shady business partners?

      And, really, why would you take him at his word?

      My guess is that he's really adept at transferring other people's money into his own pockets. He's got a long [prosebeforehos.com] history [cheatsheet.com] of being a pretty sketchy player and leaving his business partners holding the bag.

      Donald Trump seems every bit a complete charlatan and a con man ... he's been failing at business ventures and going bankrupt quite publicly

      • Honestly, how do you think Trump has gotten himself rich if not by fleecing investors and having shady business partners?

        And now everyone can watch the documentary that he sought to destroy. I wonder why... Actually, I don't wonder, especially after watching it. Yes, it's free to watch the entire documentary, too.

        http://trumpthemovie.com/watch [trumpthemovie.com]

    • Re:Donors??? (Score:5, Informative)

      by unixisc ( 2429386 ) on Friday September 18, 2015 @09:26PM (#50553497)

      Didn't Trump say he could finance his whole campaign himself?

      He did. He does allow people to donate to his campaign, but it requires them to provide a written declaration of 2 things:

      1. 1. The person must make the contribution from their own funds, and not any organization that they are a part of (to avoid a situation where Trump is expected to do a quid pro quo)
      2. 2. That person couldn't have been an illegal alien at any point in his life

      In short, people who wish to contribute to his campaign can do it, as long as they follow the above requirements. But it doesn't mean that Trump wouldn't finance his entire campaign

      • seems like a good scam i mean business move, donations replace the money he spends so if he loses the campaign, his pockets are still full

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      Didn't Trump say he could finance his whole campaign himself?

      Well, he could, but if people are throwing money your way without strings, you'd be stupid not to take it. And given Trump's fortune, being stupid in business is something Trump doesn't do.

      If you can spend other people's money instead of your own, it's obvious which is the way to go in business.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by dbIII ( 701233 )

        If you can spend other people's money instead of your own, it's obvious which is the way to go in business.

        Especially since he's famous for doing that four times over.
        Funny how he told the people he had fleeced that he had no money and then he suddenly had millions five minutes after the clock ran out - four times.

        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by pete6677 ( 681676 )

          Even funnier yet is the fact that there are apparently still people willing to do business with Trump.

          PT Barnum was right...

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AK Marc ( 707885 )
      Could, not would.

      Also, TFA makes it clear that the person charged didn't donate, or perform any transaction of any kind. He just entered his details so he could, and decided not to, but was charged for about $400 of campaign merchandise.

      This was simple theft, though since it was done by a politician/business, it's called an "error" and nothing will come of it, so long as the money is returned in a timely fashion.

    • Yes. It just happens to be the case that some of his money is in your bank account.

      Hand it over, punk.

    • He is financing it himself. He's just using other people's money. Nothing at all like his business record, no no no.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by sjames ( 1099 )

      That's one of the dirty secrets. When the fabulously wealthy say they are financing something what they mean is they are spending other people's money and taking the credit.

  • Don't worry (Score:3)

    by quantaman ( 517394 ) on Friday September 18, 2015 @07:36PM (#50552887)

    He'll just use his management superpowers to make all the over-charged donors multi-millionaires.

  • Classic Spammer/Scammer tactic (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Sarusa ( 104047 ) on Friday September 18, 2015 @07:37PM (#50552891)

    You go after people you know are stupid.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Actually, it's just an ordinary payment processor glitch that got turned into a media thing due to it happening to the Trump campaign. Similar things have happened to tons and tons of payment platforms enough such that this is hardly a noteworthy affair any more than someone's Windows PC crashing would be.

      Please note that, like most sane people, I have zero intention of voting for Trump. But this story is utter BS concocted by someone trying to score political points and it sounds foolish to anyone who kn

  • Ah... to look at the world through virtual glasses

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Unfortunately it doesn't work in Linux.

  • So... (Score:3)

    by mcmonkey ( 96054 ) on Friday September 18, 2015 @07:45PM (#50552955) Homepage

    This in addition to getting fleeced by Trump.

  • prophetic (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) on Friday September 18, 2015 @08:01PM (#50553079)

    i dont see what these people are upset about. i mean, this is just a vision of your future if trump were to be President. ;)

    • i dont see what these people are upset about. i mean, this is just a vision of your future if trump were to be President. ;)

      Agreed. How is this a surprise? I'm sure the Trump campaign just used the same formula for calculating donations that it uses to calculate Trump's net worth -- take the actual value and multiply it by some random number. After all, Trump's "brand" is apparently worth billions of dollars, but Trump's the only one who thinks so.

      Hey Trump donors -- you just figured out how math works in Trump's world.

  • Only six? (Score:4)

    by TsuruchiBrian ( 2731979 ) on Friday September 18, 2015 @08:04PM (#50553091)

    She said someone tried to make 13 withdrawals from her husband's account. After the first six charges went through, the account was almost empty.

    That's because her husband is a loser, and doesn't have many billions of dollars from doing very well in his many business deals.

    • Strange. Does the american banking system allow you to "charge" another person's bank account without any sayso of the user? Where i live, this is impossible. The only way money goes away from my bank account by a request from third party, is direct debit - and even then I set the withdrawal limits and dates and there has to be an electronic (i.e. XML) invoice produced. Also - i don't think direct debit is ever used for one off payments here, only recurring payments like utility, phone, etc.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by kbdd ( 823155 )
        Yes of course. I had a closed account that was charged almost a year after being closed via a fubared electronic transaction and the bank still expected me to pay even though I had not been their customer for almost a year. It took me 3 trips to the bank and many phone calls to get them to drop the case.

        I was told you cannot close an account, ever, for merchants. When you "close" it, you only essentially tell the bank that you no longer want to get statements, and they will stop charging you the monthly m

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by sjames ( 1099 )

          They clearly have such a mechanism since you can't just bleed the bank dry if you get the account number of a deceased customer with no living relatives for them to tap. They just opt to be accomplices to a crime for their cut and take advantage of being too big to prosecute. That's why they are deathly afraid of anything that might change their status. They've forgotten how to make an honest living.

          • That is where you are wrong. All you need is the information from a debit card and you can drain any account completely dry, owner being alive or not. It is called "incoming debit electronic transaction" and you are presumed to have authorized it by giving your debit card number to someone.

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by sjames ( 1099 )

              Oh, you can bleed the account dry, no problem. What I mean is that they DO have a mechanism to keep you from overdrawing it, but they only use it when there is nobody they can put the bite on to cover the debt.

      • It doesn't "allow" unauthorized transactions. That's why such theft is called "wire fraud". And using your credentials, fraudulently, would allow just such theft: it's quite a common problem, often tied to the related criminal activities of "identity theft".

        I've no idea where you live that such fraud is not an ongoing problem. And in this case, there's so little information that it could even have been an old paper check, forged with Donald's signature. In the USA, ongoing fraud of this sort will eventually

      • Faked credentials. I can transfer money out of my account from a web site, and have done so. If I can do it over the web, so can anyone else who can copy my credentials (and perhaps spoof my IP address). I have used such money transfer for one-time payments without previous setup (although most of our recurring bills are paid by recurring money transfers we've set up).

  • More like person. And check out the garage over the woman's shoulder. Hoarders. It's only plural people because somebody at the Trump campaign instantly copped to it, and used the plural word customers; so apparently more than one person.

    Everywhere I look these past few days there is nothing but piling on Trump. Honestly, I never expected him to bring the country together like this. Both left wing and right wing media alike really have it in for him. It's every story, everywhere. I never saw them so togethe

    • Everywhere I look these past few days there is nothing but piling on Trump. Honestly, I never expected him to bring the country together like this. Both left wing and right wing media alike really have it in for him.

      Yeah it's weird. Usually republicans will reflexively support anything the democrats oppose. Democrats hate Putin? Well then republicans love him. He is a strong leader, not like Obama (who is like a very weak Stalin and Hitler).

    • Everywhere I look these past few days there is nothing but piling on Trump.

      Are claiming he doesn't completely deserve it?

    • Everywhere I look these past few days there is nothing but piling on Trump. Honestly, I never expected him to bring the country together like this. Both left wing and right wing media alike really have it in for him.

      Trump and Sanders are both threats to the media. Trump is a threat because they can't control or predict him. Sanders is a threat because he challenges their whole order. So they're attacking trump and ignoring Sanders.

    • Honestly, I never expected him to bring the country together like this. Both left wing and right wing media alike really have it in for him. It's every story, everywhere. I never saw them so together on something, not even in the days after 9/11; not like this.

      Interesting times...

      It's even worse.

      Most of the post-debate polls have Trump increasing his lead [morningconsult.com] over the other candidates.

      Looking at some of the article post responses over the net (my own anecdotal evidence), it seems that people really don't mind all the things people complain about Trump. The general tone of response is "I agree he's $X, but at least he's not like those corrupt politicians".

      And at least one super PAC has declared war [go.com] on Trump.

      All he has to do is choose a handful of issues that piss people off, and he'll be

      • Re: Heh, People (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward

        In Brazil we have a saying for this... He is the "piranha bull". When you have to move massive amounts of cattle through a piranha infested river you sacrifice a signore bull so that the rest of the heard can cross without being noticed. This is the purpose trump serves. He diverts the attention from all the other candidates. Everyone's looking at him! If another candidate says something that doesn't poll well it'll only get limited air time and the campaign will learn something with little side effect.

        This

  • that mooo guy is makig more sense on /. all the time
  • Trump is by his own words one of the richest men around. He owns all the big stuff.

    Giving him ANY money at all seems like a stupid thing to do. It's like giving a drowning man a glass of water.

    • Giving him ANY money at all seems like a stupid thing to do. It's like giving a drowning man a glass of water.

      It's more like giving an alcoholic a shot of whiskey. He has enough, but one more won't hurt.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by dbIII ( 701233 )
      Have a shower. Before you put your clothes on pick up a dollar. You are now worth more than Trump four times over. The money he has now is less than he was supposed to pay back but did not.

  • This is why I only use 2D payment systems. I'm not paying extra for those silly glasses.

  • A totally uninteresting article (Score:3)

    by nickweller ( 4108905 ) on Friday September 18, 2015 @11:00PM (#50553881)
    Why is this even doing on slashdot?

  • Ob (Score:3)

    by Hognoxious ( 631665 ) on Saturday September 19, 2015 @03:34AM (#50554595) Homepage Journal

    Shouldn't that be "Some Trump Donors Get Fleeced Again By 3d-Party Payment System"

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by mjwx ( 966435 )

      Shouldn't that be "Some Trump Donors Get Fleeced Again By 3d-Party Payment System"

      I would have called it "Unrestricted Capitalism In Action" or "How Libertarianism Really Work" because lets face it, the only thing stopping this from being legal is the fact the government places restrictions on it.

      • I'm sure the libertardians have a solution to that. Probably involving the ripped-off person going round and shooting him.

  • Fleeced? I wonder if the pun's intentional. I always thought it looked more like a dead cat, but I suppose it could be a bit of sheepskin.

  • poetic justice (Score:3)

    by Spaham ( 634471 ) on Saturday September 19, 2015 @08:47AM (#50555175)

    A fool and his money will soon be parted

  • When you give to Trump's political campaign, you are being overcharged, no matter how much you give and how many time. Now, if you give for the entertainment value, you get back many times what you give. Now you know.
  • LOOOOSERS!!!

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