Pro-Democracy Websites In Hong Kong Targeted With and Serving Malware 44
An anonymous reader writes A threat campaign tracking report released by Volexity shows that a number of high profile websites related to the Hong Kong democracy movement have been infected with malware. This malware targets both the web servers themselves as well as website visitors. The sophistication and scope of the malware likely points to government involvement as has been the case in previous campaigns targeting Asian charities and government reform organizations.
Not invented there (Score:1)
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Not invented there
To be picky, the showing of prior art does not prove the creators of the identified prior art were the original inventors. There are many cases that predate the one you cite. In this case, perhaps the Chinese did invent it and the NSA copied them.
Gee, I crack myself up sometimes.
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No this is 'merica and we lead the world in spying on its own citizens, the only proof you need is its 'merica and nobody out does us.
Infact sir, by you even suggesting that our commy "friends" didnt copy us, well your just anti-merica and your probably a terrorist, and a commy, thats like double anti patrotic...you socialist nazi
No solid proof, only Schneier's allegations of it (Score:2)
Schneier's allegations require that you believe a known non-trustworthy person (Edward Snowden)'s own allegation for that to be true.
When all of that can be brought to bear in a US court with Snowden et al in custody, then you can start talking about it as truth when it is proven to be truth.
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uh... no, that was bought with the blood of patriots the same way regime change has always happened anywhere in the entire history of civilisation.
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America
LOL. What freedom, in America? The freedom to be arrested for filiming police, or for using on own body substances some assholes deemed illegal?
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How about the freedom to sue the police after being wrongfully arrested for filming police and win in the courts or have a settlement worth millions?
And dude, heroin is a terrible drug. One with sociological ramifications. We don't really want something like England's East India Company to have another war. [wikipedia.org] It's not the individualist's paradise that you seem to think it is. It DOES matter what my neighbor does. But yeah, sure, we're learning that it's better not to criminalize some things.
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-1 America Is Not A Country
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If that's true, it really failed badly.
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democracy, you tool, is a product of and protector of freedom.
No, democracy is the tool that took away all our freedoms. Who do you think create NSA or DMCA - a king? A dictator? An anarchy? Or a democracy?
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Who do you think create NSA or DMCA - a king? A dictator? An anarchy? Or a democracy?
A republic, where the authorized representatives have been corrupted by the corporate state. There hasn't been a country operating as a real democracy in over a couple thousand years. Everytime you see a country called a democracy it is really a republic.
1% woes, not allowed to rip people off (Score:2)
Wow, the problems of the world's 1%. If someone catches you ripping off their work, they can have you stop doing so. Poor little you.
Take a look at the world beyond your own room one day. You're not even seeing your neighbor, who spent a year working on yhe song that you ripped off rather than tossing your dollar in to buy it, much less seeing the actual suffering around the world.
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please give me citation of a country where Democracy brought freedom to the masses.
Very good question. Democracy destroys freedoms everywhere, does not bring it. NSA, war on drugs, war on alcohol, war on sharing files - are all brought on by democratic government bodies, funded by democratically assigned taxes, and then other countries copy this laws also by democratic governmnets.
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please give me citation of a country where Democracy brought freedom to the masses.
I think most of the citizens of former Warsaw Pact nations would agree that they're freer now that they can elect their own leaders instead of being de-facto provinces of Greater Russia.
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Most of "the west", ie, UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Sweden, etc. Remember that BEFORE democracy, their government were run by kings. The people were literally owned, and simply part of the land. Their options were limited to "till the fields or die". France had that big clusterfuck with all the heads rolling and the time of terrors afterwards, but eventually things were better for the masses because they had additional freedoms. This sentiment spread to the rest of Europe and was a defining force i
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Unless you get caught. Worse, if you get caught downloading any movies with "subversive overtones".
And pft, you can download movies all day long in the USA too.
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Let's punish them by buying their trinkets at Walmart. That'll show 'em!
Foolish (Score:5, Insightful)
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Indeed. The Chinese Government must have read "How Not to Tick Off a Large City", and did the opposite of the advice. Why would anyone want to go back to being governed by a cheating bully?
(Other than at gun-point, which it may come down to now.)
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It'd be childish if the 'malware' were just serving pop-up ads or sending herbal viagra spam. The stuff designed for surveillance of infected targets, though, would be an entirely logical intelligence gathering strategy.
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Yes, but with collecting and processing data from the internet the attacker opens himself for attacks. Or how bug-free is the analysis software.
And once you go illegal it becomes difficult to sue counter-attackers. "Intrusion into government computers" might look strange on a warrant if the perpetrator claims he just shut down a C&C server.
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Foolish (Score:1)
The "Malware" is probably far more insidious than your average malware and will probably do most of the following: monitor all traffic from all devices, calls, sms monitor location, contacts and will most likely give the option of controlling the device, locking the device impersonating the device etc.
So essentially they control of, what ever devices they have infected with this "Malware" and have full visibility of who the organisers are etc, who I am sure the will quietly incarcerate.
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Couldn't the government just take down the DNS entries of those sites, rather than install malware?
Not if you want to track the people visiting the site.
It makes more sense that this was done by script kiddies with an agenda.
A little from column A... A little from column B...
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That move seems just really childish for a government. Couldn't the government just take down the DNS entries of those sites, rather than install malware? Also, this will only help to legitimize the pro-democracy movement. It makes more sense that this was done by script kiddies with an agenda.
Indeed. Whatever one can say for or against the Chinese government, fools they are not. And whatever one can say about the CIA/NSA or whatever they are called these days, fanatical proponents of freedom and democracy wouldn't' top the list. My expectation of the Chinese government is that they wish to deal with these problems calmly and pragmatically, whereas the American secret services have a track record for stirring up shit. I may be wrong, of course.
Democracy is a very good idea, even for a government.
But if Democracy comes to China... (Score:3)
My portfolio started taking a beating when these democracy agitators started causing trouble in Hong Kong. If Beijing doesn't do something to stamp this out, it could eventually lead to democratic rule in China. Labor activist will start demanding western style salaries and living standards and voting and such. Something really needs to be done about this so as to avoid labor costs getting out of control.
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My portfolio started taking a beating when these democracy agitators started causing trouble in Hong Kong.
Ah, so this is an obvious troll. Or at least the tongue-in-cheek sarcasm pointing out some of the more nefarious mentality that's probably going on in the upper echelons of US business. It's getting hard these days to tell the difference, and idiots like DNS-BIND can't read sarcasm. Poe's law [wikipedia.org] is in effect.
so as to avoid labor costs getting out of control.
Just so everyone else is aware, the Chinese workers have steadily been earning more for years [google.com], and as they get more powerful, they'll want more rights/control/political power. The higher salary comes firs
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I like to think it's more "tongue-in-cheek sarcasm" than a troll. The google charts you point to indicate that Chinese workers income is rising. But it's still a fraction of what workers in the U.S. make at current exchange rates. Sarcasm-off, I'd actually like to see both democracy in China AND living standards for working people everywhere rising. My post was to poke fun at those who see the rising call for democracy as a threat to capitalism-as we-know-it.
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"You vill have communism...or ve vill give you tank."
Duh (Score:1)
Is there anyone here that didn't see that coming?