F-Secure Report: Another SCADA Attack in Iran — This Time With AC/DC 253
An anonymous reader writes "F-Secure antivirus company of Finland has reported receiving e-mails from an Iranian nuclear scientist, who says Persian uranium-235 isotope refining efforts have just been hit with yet another cyber strike. (Stuxnet, Duqu and Flamer-Skywiper being the previous iterations of the same Operation Project Olympic attack plan.) Last month, President Obama's staff has admitted to the New York Times that there is a joint Israel-U.S. cybermilitary operation was behind the mishaps Iranians have recently been suffering with their UF6 gas refining centrifuge systems in the Natanz and Fordo plants. This time, the unverified e-mail claims, a new Metasploit-based malware owns Iranian VPNs, causes fault in the nuclear plants' Siemens-based industrial control systems, and randomly starts to play AC/DC's 'Thunderstruck' aloud via the infected computers' speakers."
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Well there's really nothing to fear until people start getting Rick-rolled
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These "cyber attacks" are criminal activity by the AmeriCIA/Israel government confab - directed against the LEGAL and compliant activity by a signatory of the non-proliferation treaty.
Israel is NOT signatory - and actually DOES produce weapons, in violation of international law.
So does India an NPT violator.
Who will stop these rogue regimes, that pursue their agenda, not through binding treaty obligations or courts of justice, but through rampant sabotage and a program of civilian assassinations?
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You forgot Pakistan and China in that ramble. You also forgot that the states who did sign the treaty and agreed to be bound by it, the same states who benefited from the signing of the treaties, only one is openly hostile towards another nation. Of course India and Pakistan are or was openly hostile to each other but they didn't sign.
Also, international law is not some imposing legal system that strips the sovereignty of nations just because a few states get together and declare something. Imagine if they got together and outlawed the Muslim religions or sodomy by declaration or something.
The states in question by your comment have to agree to be bound by the treaty creating the international law or defeated by force and subjected to the ramifications of it ex postfacto. Should one of these non bound countries become openly hostile against another country or threaten the use of Nuclear or Chemical and/or biological weapons, I'm sure the focus of the world will change a bit. Until then, crying that they aren't being troubled is a bit like saying, why am I being arrested for robbing the bank, banks get robbed all the time and those people don't get caught.
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Noriega was Panama [wikipedia.org], not AC/DC.
And they should have gone with The Clash, not AC/DC this time... while the song Rock the Casbah was actually about a situation in Afghanistan, the situation in Iran today is very similar to the circumstances in Afghanistan that led to that song being written in the first place. :)
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They played more than one song it seems. I wasn't there.
http://nofearofthefuture.blogspot.com/2006/12/noriega-playlist.html [blogspot.com]
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It could have been worse, how about Muskrat Love? That would have been truly diabolical.
Thunderstruck (Score:5, Funny)
Sound of the drums
Beatin' in my heart
The thunder of guns
Tore me apart
You've been - thunderstruck
Re:Thunderstruck (Score:4, Funny)
To the authors of this hack: I see what you did there, I LOL'd, and I will never listen to that song again without thinking of a cascade failure :)
You came, you saw, kicked its ass [youtube.com]!
Springsteen, weaponized. (Score:5, Funny)
I would have gone for "Born in the USA"
Re:Springsteen, weaponized. (Score:5, Funny)
I would've gone with Hava Nagila [wikipedia.org].
Evergreen FTW! (Score:2)
Evergreen!
Yes, sure, she has a pure, wonderful, beautiful voice, blah blah blah. But that's the point. In my experience, the notes she sings travel hundreds of yards down the corridor and infect everyone's office.
Play it over and over and over and over and over and ... people will be tearing their hair out. We could call it ... I don't know ... the Streisand Effect?
Re:Springsteen, weaponized. (Score:5, Insightful)
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You only think that because you're thinking in english rather than the newspeak.
Re:Springsteen, weaponized. (Score:5, Insightful)
You only think that because you're thinking in english rather than the newspeak.
Interstate running through his front yard and he think's he's got it so good. But ain't that America?
As a Canadian I found it pretty funny at the time that the song not only charted but became an anthem for (clueless?) patriots.
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Yea, well, when write a catchy hook saying something (in a non-sarcastic tone) patriotic, you've got no right to bitch and whine when the general public ignores the rest of it.
That's why you get anti-war songs [wikipedia.org] used as title music for Vietnam War games [wikipedia.org], etc.
Make your message the hook, not the counterpoint, or you WILL be misunderstood.
Re:Springsteen, weaponized. (Score:4, Insightful)
That's why you get anti-war songs used as title music for Vietnam War games, etc.
Uh no, you get anti-war songs used as title music for the Viet Nam War because that war is almost universally hated, despised, and regretted. When you play a game about that war you know what the outcome is and you know it won't be happy. Irony, it's not just for breakfast any more, but it is for your comment.
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Make your message the hook, not the counterpoint, or you WILL be misunderstood.
Had the hook been the main message the song would never have been played. How would that have served any purpose?
The idea was to get the song on every radio station, and sell records (and make money). It worked.
Once out there, people listen more closely, and when they do the message won't be misunderstood. That you still see it used today, inappropriately simply indicated people new to the song haven't yet listened to much beyond the hook. These are useful idiots, serving the song writer's purpose.
Now d
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By the way, Persia? Did they do the research for the article in the Bible? Most other sources call it Iran now.
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I would have gone for "Born in the USA"
A song chronicling the disillusionment of Vietnam veterans is probably not what the people who wrote that code are going for.
(Of course, a lot of people, including some politicians, seem to think that it's a pro-government patriotic song. Patriotic, maybe, but I'm guessing they never listened to anything but the chorus. Or perhaps the title.)
I'd like to think that 'Born in the USA' is considered patriotic because people are idiots; but I can never quite shake the nagging feeling that some of its proponents understand, and approve of, its celebration of America as a country where you can cynically throw away the human resources when they are no longer useful...
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One side thinks their country can be the greatest place on Earth, and wants to work on the needed changes to get it there.
The other side thinks it already is, and doesn't want to change a single thing - only roll back some of the changes the first group has already managed.
I'd prefer to think that "Born in the USA" was cast in the first mold, because recognition is the first step toward fixing. Also, any citizen of any nation can take the first view, and probably should. But then I just might be a little
Re:Springsteen, weaponized. (Score:4, Funny)
I would have gone with some Justin Bieber or Nickelback.
The constitution forbids cruel and unusual punishment.
disinformation? (Score:5, Insightful)
This somehow seems like a disinformation campaign by the iranians. With the refinement Flame/Stuxnet had, it seems a bit too amateurish that all of a sudden the attack methods would become so much more primitive and obvious to the victims (I mean, seriously, playing loud music in the middle of the night?)
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Given that it is already de-facto-proven-even-for-official-purposes that the US has no qualms about fucking with Iran's computer systems, what would Iran have to gain by some sort of false-flag style thing?
If there were actually some lingering doubt about the US's willingness, I could see trying to score some points; but there really isn't. The explanations that it was either an attack pulled off by a much less sophisticated actor(hacking isn't totally newb stuff; but the list of people who can make trouble
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There is nothing tangible to gain in the sense that it helps prove one particular country was the source of the attack. What they are doing is causing doubts as to the progress, if any, in their program. Translation: we are talking mind games with analysis as to just where they stand in the development cycle. Plus, the people within the Iranian program can use this to cover their butts if they are running behind or have something worse happen like explosions at plants and such.
Make no doubt about it, though
Re:disinformation? (Score:4, Interesting)
More likely some poor bastard on the night shift was intentionally and willfully listening to evil mp3s he downloaded from the great satan over livewire, and when he got caught doing air guitar instead of whatever the hell a centrifuge operator does in his spare time, rather than taking the fall for it, commited yet another sin by blaming the CIA.
The disinfo part is I've worked in industrial plants on networks, and later for decades in companies with airgapped production and IT networks, and the first thing you do after the first infection is airgap IT and everything else you can away from production, then you disassemble production.
So the scales of upper management weigh:
1) On one side the ops when they're bored want to check facebook, email, and play angry birds online
2) On the other side the plant might be destroyed in an explosion that kills us all and the dictator will kill my family as punishment even though I'm already dead.
Yeah I can see how the local equivalent of mahogany row decided to leave plant equipment accessible. Yeah, totally realistic. Not PR BS at all. Uh huh.
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Well it's hardly a secret or cold war any more, so subtlety is no longer required.
Eventually Iran will retaliate and then all hell will break loose. Just hope they send viruses and not cruise missiles.
Awesome! (Score:3)
What other songs could the virus rock out with?
"Stranglehold"
"Eve Of Destruction"
"Dogs Of War"
"Born In The USA"
Pretty much anything off Dark Side Of The Moon
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Something by Celine Dion.
Re:Awesome! (Score:5, Funny)
That might violate the Geneva Conventions.
Re:Awesome! (Score:4, Funny)
What other songs could the virus rock out with?
How about rickrolling?
Re:Awesome! (Score:4, Funny)
I love my classes
I got a crazy teacher,
He wears dark glasses.
Things are going great,
And they're only getting better.
I'm doing all right, getting good grades.
The future's so bright
I gotta wear shades.
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Hairstyles and attitudes... how to they relate?
Re:Awesome! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Awesome! (Score:4, Funny)
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No, no, no, you're thinking all wrong. Iran is a strict Islamic state. Songs to play over their nuclear program's computer speakers include: ...etc
"Girls Just Want to have Fun" by Cyndi Lauper
"Erotica" by Madonna
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"If I Had a Hammer" by Peter, Paul, Mary
Latin Love of Mine by?
How about the standard disconnected/unreachable phone number "We're sorry, that number is unavailable. Please check your number and dial again." though I'd change the message to We're Sorry but God is Unavailabe. You can leave a message or Hang Up."
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Even better, it should just open a browser to a porn site.
Imagine how well their research will go when all their top scientists are beheaded for being perverts under Islamic Law!
Re:Awesome! (Score:5, Funny)
Inertia might prevent this; but (if the virus has access to PLCs) rocking some unlistenable ambient industrial exclusively using PLC-controlled hardware being operated in a manner egregiously beyond its design specs would be fairly entertaining.
A computer attempting the DJ-style turntable 'scratching' effect on a bank of ultracentrifuges would be fun while it lasted...
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Why not do something actually about nuclear war?
"Fight Fire With Fire" or "Rust in Peace... Polaris" might do nicely, as a sort of "hey, this thing you're building will kill millions of people, you know" message.
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What other songs could the virus rock out with?
"America, Fuck Yea!"
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Armageddon
When you're Hot, you're Hot
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i would be more impressed if they the music was coming from the centrifuges themselves. anyone can make a computer speaker play sound!
something like this ghostbuster theme on a tesla coil [youtube.com] or imperial march of the floppies [youtube.com]
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Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
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"you've been hit by, you've been struck by, a smoooth criminal"...ok maybe not that smooth
RIAA vs US gov't (Score:5, Funny)
I hope the malware writers (or the US gov't) have agreed their license fees with the respective record companies, otherwise they'll find themselves in a world of pain!
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First thing I thought too, lol.
There's something comforting about it though. Even when employed by the government, hackers are just hackers. :-)
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No worries. The Men In Black have already paid the industry lawyers a little visit. A courtesy call, if you will.
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Pleading the Fifth: takings (Score:2)
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The playing of that music is the actual damage action because it is then clear that those infected facilities will be attacked by the RIAA fur unlicensed music playing.
How many bummers does the RIAA have?
We didn't start the fire (Score:2)
Bullshit (Score:5, Insightful)
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If they are caught they'll only make it out with a bullet in the back.
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Yeah. My bet would be on script kiddies as well. This is just somebody trolling the Iranians. The US and Israel tried to stay undetected for as long as possible and in the mean time do as much damage as they possibly could.
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no, you see the US is just trying to unleash the RIAA's fury...hey those guys over there are playing your songs without paying! sic em boy!
Re:Bullshit (Score:4, Insightful)
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Junis, is that you? (Score:2)
(AC because I'm posting at work)
.mp3" show two completely different models of operating. There isn't anything like Defcon or Black Hat going on this week, is there? ;)
I wish I could use some of my mod points to mod parent up. "Using (or having insiders create) multiple 0-days for Stuxnet" vs. "Metasploit and proclaiming victory by playing a
(DC because I'm posting from my C64 on battery power from Afghanistan)
no [blackhat.com]
Factual Corrections (Score:5, Interesting)
I have a few bones to pick with the summary, of a factual nature. Corrections are in bold, I have not corrected the grammatical errors.
"F-Secure antivirus company of Finland has reported receiving e-mails from an Iranian nuclear scientist, who says Persian uranium-235 isotope refining efforts have just been hit with yet another cyber strike. (Stuxnet, Duqu and Flamer-Skywiper allegedly being the previous iterations of the same Operation Project Olympic attack plan.) Last month, an anonymous member of President Obama's staff has allegedly admitted to the New York Times that there is a joint Israel-U.S. cybermilitary operation was behind the mishaps Iranians have recently been suffering with their UF6 gas refining centrifuge systems in the Natanz and Fordo plants. This time, the unverified e-mail claims, a new Metasploit-based malware owns iranian VPNs, causes fault in the nuclear plants' Siemens-based industrial control systems, and randomly starts to play AC/DC's 'Thunderstruck' aloud via the infected computers' speakers."
I'm not saying the Times is wrong, but I don't trust their source completely. I also am not claiming he's wrong, but the press has a very bad habit of really fucking up critical details of technology-related stories. For example, I find it pretty hard to swallow that such an operation would only involve the US and Israel. It's all very convenient, and tidy, and in real life the real story is very rarely wrapped up in such a pretty little package. We certainly need at least an independent confirmation of the source's information.
Act of War (Score:2, Insightful)
They are seriously dancing around if this is an act of war. If Iran started hitting the US I suspect these actions would have a different spin. Of course the US is a super power so war with them is on a completely different level than the smaller countries.
Pandora's Box (Score:5, Interesting)
It's been opened.
The US will not encounter foreign boots on the ground but cyber retaliation... and I promise it could get very ugly. As a former Network Admin, Accelerator Designer, and now Siemens Programmer I can tell you that these viruses can be turned back on us. Much of the world runs on Siemens programming. Oil rigs, chemical mixers, MRI scanners, food prep, power grids, water treatment, and manufacturing assembly of all kinds (right off the top of my head) all run on Siemens hardware/software and we don't have the ability to defend against it.
However, I am not worried about Iran. It's China who already has their digital boots on the ground.
Re:Pandora's Box (Score:5, Funny)
My God! The world is covered in Siemen!
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I've just got to imagine that when the German executives meet with the American sales team, to discuss market penetration of Siemens into new openings, that the American contingent spends most of their energy trying not to giggle.
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Much of the world runs on Siemens programming.
This makes me very scared.
Most of my experience is with Siemens Health Care Solutions. The fact that the world is running on Siemens makes me scared, outside the viruses. Just the POS quality Siemens puts out. I don't know how you people can sleep at night.
The obvious question... (Score:4, Funny)
Will the RIAA be sending the Iranian government a cease and desist notice for violating its copyright on the song?
So close... (Score:2, Redundant)
I weep at the lost opportunity for rickrolling.
Coursera (Score:2)
Federal agents must be going through iranian IP addresses of the Cryptography course on Coursera.
Come again? (Score:2)
> President Obama's staff has admitted to the New York Times that there is a joint Israel-U.S. cybermilitary operation was behind the mishaps Iranians have recently been suffering with their UF6 gas refining centrifuge systems in the Natanz and Fordo plants.
Remind me, when and where exactly did Obama's staff admit this? Is there anything at all besides one article with unsourced allegations?
No doubt the U.S. is behind behind this. But I'm getting damned tired of the shoddy journalism. I've seen so many c
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Besides. The obvious culprit here is Israel. They have the talent and motivation.
The US is just a spectator by comparison.
That's supposed to be some kind of joke, right? Israel wouldn't even still be there if not for our support, for good or ill.
In five years (Score:2)
In five years time, Iran will have the best SCADA cyber security engineers in the world. I bet they will give this full priority. And when they have these skills, they have the skills to attack as well. Then think of what will happen. The US should better be sure that they are able to *destroy* those machines, so Iran cannot use them to test, otherwise... And how about Germany and Italy - are they still delivering systems to Iran? I wouldn't be surprised!
If true, it's very bad news (Score:2)
If it is true, it's bad news:
Assuming that the Stuxnet/Flame attackers are trying to avoid being detected and are not announcing their presence with cheap pranks, the report, if true, would mean someone else has broken into Iranian nuclear weapons research systems, and that it's someone so unprofessional and unskilled that they are doing it as a prank.
Those systems may contain data that nuclear proliferators would love. If they are that insecure, then everything the Iranians have learned could spread rapidl
Too Stupid To Be Believable (Score:2)
Countdown before the lawsuit (Score:2)
from the RIAA over the money due each time this virus strikes, I mean sheesh, that could amount to a lot of cash right? And the recording industry is hurting what with the trillions of dollars they say they are losing every year to piracy. :P
Or maybe thats the idea, they will sic the RIAA on the Iranians and save the US military the effort
That's Not Right (Score:2)
Doesn't that violate the Geneva Convention's policy against torture?
GET YOUR SYSTEMS OFFLINE. (Score:2)
Hoax (Score:2)
Man.... (Score:2)
is the R.I.A.A. going to be pissed. Good luck with that lawsuit.
Hush Hush (Score:2)
What? What?
I can't believe that we tricked their accountant into installing the virus.
Time to charge (Score:2)
The U.S. Government and Isreal Government for illegal performance of copyrighted materal.
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I'd still go for Wagner
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And if all else fails, it goes to "The Final Countdown"
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how about Two Suns in the Sunset?
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It sounds like Tony Stark may have had a hand in this one.
What happens when Tony Stark/Iron man becomes infected by a virus?
Re:Iron Man (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Iron Man (Score:5, Funny)
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It sounds like Tony Stark may have had a hand in this one.
What happens when Tony Stark/Iron man becomes infected by a virus?
Didn't you see Iron Man 2? Granted, it wasn't Tony Stark, but it was one of his suits.
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What happens when Tony Stark/Iron man becomes infected by a virus?
Her name is Jocasta and she's a wonderful AI.
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Hey government, so it's illegal when I share Thunderstruck with my friends, but it's OK for you to spend my tax dollars giving it away to douchebag weapons scientists who don't even like AC/DC? Whatever!
There's a pretty good analogy with automatic weapons in that I'm not allowed to "permanent loan" a buddy something shiny and fun without the tax stamp and going thru a FFL dealer, but foreign aid regularly delivers weapons to foreigners for free, even if the locals don't like the dictators thugs to be better armed. Its not all that unusual of a situation.
Re:Sarcasm! (Score:5, Funny)
Indeed. I wonder how long until the RIAA and Co. will take until they send their regards for each computer playing to a group of people without licensing rights.
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My thoughts exactly... Well played sir!
Re:Sarcasm! (Score:4, Insightful)
Actually, playing the music, and calling attention to the exploit is a sign of kiddies at play, and nothing to do
with any professional or state backed efforts. Why would you reveal your exploit?
Its possible this is a diversionary tactic to hide something serious going on at different workstations. But I doubt it.
It could also be an inside prank, because unless you are there to see the panic ensue, why play music. But I doubt that as well.
The story is just as likely to be totally bogus: Unverified email form a nuclear scientist, Really!?, Like these guys get to send mail unguarded, un-scanned, un-censored?
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Oh, and here's an apostrophe for the punctuation police: '