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IT Workers Split For McCain, Obama 600

antipeon alerts us to a presidential preference survey, done in late February and early March, indicating that Obama and McCain lead among IT workers with 29% each. Clinton follows with 13%, just ahead of Huckabee (11%) and Ron Paul (9%). The Computing Technology Industry Association commissioned the poll, and the article notes that this trade group claims the population of IT workers is four times as large as the Bureau of Labor Statistics thinks it is — the better to make a voting block whose views must be attended to.
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IT Workers Split For McCain, Obama

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  • by thatskinnyguy ( 1129515 ) on Sunday March 23, 2008 @07:52PM (#22840142)
    ...but on the ballot or not, Steven Colbert gets my vote!
  • by Project2501a ( 801271 ) on Sunday March 23, 2008 @08:02PM (#22840244) Journal
    but the idea of a "voting block" made up by geeks, is uterly inane. Why, you say?
    We like to think ourselves (ie, us geeks) as a special part of our society, (us vs the ID-10T problem). it's a dipole, hence a false dilema. we're part of the US society as much as everybody else. We are workers ourselves, even if most of us make a well-to-do living from our work.

    But in no-way do we differ from another working caste of this society. In this Revolution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Baroque_Cycle [wikipedia.org] of the wheel, we got the upper hand, because we are techically inclined. But the wheel *will* make another revolution, and we'll be bottom-feeders once again.

    My point is, in these comming elections do not vote such and such because you are a geek/woman/black man/white man/polka-dotted-man from mars. Vote vote according to your class: a working man trying to make ends meet.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by rm999 ( 775449 )
      Agreed. I don't see any real difference between IT people and other people politically, except that IT people tend to me a bit more libertarian (and obviously concerned with a politician's IT platform). One time a non-CS friend asked me why computer science people lean libertarian, and I honestly couldn't answer... when most polls show Ron Paul at under 5%, why do 10% of IT people support him?
      • by ciggieposeur ( 715798 ) on Sunday March 23, 2008 @09:45PM (#22841078)
        when most polls show Ron Paul at under 5%, why do 10% of IT people support him?

        Because many IT folks were fed libertarian talking points throughout their adolescence in the form of American science fiction. American sci-fi is disproportionately libertarian, with even an annual award (the Prometheus Award) given out by the Libertarian Futurist Society. Many famous names in sci-fi including Poul Anderson, Robert Heinlein, Neil Stephenson, David Brin, Larry Niven, and Vernor Vinge are/were associated with establishment libertarianism, and even Heinlein (who was supposedly co-opted by the libertarians ("TAANSTFL")) did little to publicly correct the impression that he favored anarcho-libertarian ideology.

        Now twenty years later many IT folks have libertarianism sunk in very deep indeed.
    • by Etrias ( 1121031 ) on Sunday March 23, 2008 @10:08PM (#22841236)

      the idea of a "voting block" made up by geeks, is uterly inane.


      Why? Hey, someone has to rig those voting machines.
  • by jfruhlinger ( 470035 ) on Sunday March 23, 2008 @08:04PM (#22840272) Homepage
    You know, IT people are generally all kinds of smug how much smarter they are than everybody else, but 20 percent of them are apparently still backing candidates who dropped out of the race several weeks ago.
  • you gotta be crazy (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 23, 2008 @08:05PM (#22840284)
    i cannot understand why ANYBODY would want to vote for the party that has done more to destroy the USA in the last 7 years than any other party in my memory the USA seems to now stand for war,torture, xenophobia, racism, corruption and financial mismanagement full of the same corrupt actors as the nixon era but worse (cheney et al), even "conservatives" are disgusted with what the current incarnation of rogues that are perverting the name of true conservatives have done (record debts, gov size) but hey you crack on, the rest of the world is busy making plans without you (witness the dollars slump) if the GOP get back in power you agree with all they have done and you deserve everything you get
    • Well Clinton is worse and is the queen of smear and fud and what she has been doing to Obama and encouraing the media to keep covering the pastor scandal is disgusting. She will likely tip the election to McCain. Now I know why Rush and Laura Ingram encouraged conservatives to vote for in order to prolong the race.

      McCain is not pro torture and wants to have spending hawks in his cabinet. The federal government is too big and our interest rates will only get alot higher if we can't keep spending out of contr
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by dreamchaser ( 49529 )
        I'm by no means a McCain lover, but one thing I really respect is that he seems to walk the walk with regards to spending. He has taken zero dollars in 'earmarks' and I think I believe what he says when he talks about vetoing earmark laden bills.
        • by soren100 ( 63191 ) on Monday March 24, 2008 @03:40AM (#22842786)

          I'm by no means a McCain lover, but one thing I really respect is that he seems to walk the walk with regards to spending. He has taken zero dollars in 'earmarks' and I think I believe what he says when he talks about vetoing earmark laden bills.
          So you think Mr. "Bomb Iran" [rawstory.com] is going to be fiscally responsible? The Iraq / Afghanistan wars are currently breaking the back of the American economy, and McCain thinks that staying in Iraq for a 100 years is a good thing, and that we need to get a war started on a new front.

          The current wars (occupations) are already going to be costing the US upwards of $2 Trillion when all is said and done, and McCain wants to increase the number of fronts we will be fighting on, and you think he somehow will reign in spending?

          Heck, his current campaign is already over the legal spending limits of a law he helped write [washingtonpost.com]. If he can't control his own campaign spending, how do well do you think he will handle the finances of an entire country?
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Mad_Rain ( 674268 )

        Because of the pastor story I lean towards McCain.

        In the interest of fairness, let's briefly examine the religious supporters that are getting behind Senator McCain:

        In the wake of securing the Republican nomination, I'm sure a few more like Pat Robertson will come out in support, but let's start with these two winners.

        McCain is currently accepting the endorsement of Pastor John Hagee, who said Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for homosexuality. [mediamatters.org] (Let's not even get started on his remarks about Catholics being "a cult," or his blaming the Je

  • "...the better to make a voting block whose views must be attended to."

    Translation: Give us our pork, or else!

  • IT was not a POTUS preference survey, in late February and early March 2008, which indicated that Ubama and McSoft lead among IT workers with 29% each. Suselinton follows with 13%, just ahead of Apple (11%) and others (9%). The Computing Technology Industry Association commissioned the poll to be only slightly bias, and the article notes that this trade group claims the population of sexually active IT workers is four times as large as the Bureau of Labor Statistics knowss it is â" the better to make a
  • H1-Bs (Score:5, Insightful)

    by hemp ( 36945 ) on Sunday March 23, 2008 @08:26PM (#22840474) Homepage Journal
    From an IT perspective, since all of the candidates some how think that there is a massive shortage of IT workers in the US and we should increase the number of H1-Bs to solve this problem, it really doesn't matter who is elected.
  • by Tangential ( 266113 ) on Sunday March 23, 2008 @08:54PM (#22840676) Homepage
    Looking at the Clintons' record on H1B visas and Hillary's deep connections with companies like India's Tata (remember this http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-22654114_ITM [accessmylibrary.com]) its no surprise that IT professionals are rejecting her. She's all for sending our jobs overseas.
  • Net Neutrality (Score:5, Interesting)

    by MSBob ( 307239 ) on Sunday March 23, 2008 @09:00PM (#22840728)
    McCain is against net neutrality (and I sense he doesn't understand the issue either) while Obama is for protecting net neutrality and - judging by the way his campaign is ran - is a lot more tech savvy than the other remaining candidates.
  • McCain is Bush #2 (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jdb2 ( 800046 ) * on Sunday March 23, 2008 @09:11PM (#22840814) Journal
    For crying out loud Bush *endorsed* McCain. To make it even clearer, McCain voted against the senate
    anti-torture bill --1E6 hypocrite points-- and supports retroactive immunity for telecoms -- basically
    indicating he's for the blatant and outrageous violation of the 4th amendment by Herr Bush even
    though in public he disagrees with the policy - another 1E6 hypocrite points. If you still don't
    believe me, he says that the U.S. needs the military option to deal with Iran. I rest my case.

    jdb2
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by khallow ( 566160 )

      So what makes you think McCain is Bush #2? A bunch of very weak reasoning. For example, if I have a senate bill that is for the kids, then you must be against the kids if you oppose this bill, am I right? Of course, I'm right. Same sort of argument holds for "anti-torture". Similarly, it's to Bush's advantage to back someone in the next election. The fact that he waited this long to endorse McCain indicates to me a certain lack of enthusiasm. He doesn't have other choices. He's not going to back Obama or Cl

  • IT for McCain? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Doc Ruby ( 173196 ) on Sunday March 23, 2008 @09:17PM (#22840864) Homepage Journal
    What could possibly make an IT person vote for McCain? He doesn't seem likely to even have a cellphone, let alone relate at all to anything IT people have to deal with. He's confessed he doesn't understand the economy. His Republican anti-immigration policies don't protect any IT jobs. What makes him seem like he could possibly represent their interests as president?
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Bender0x7D1 ( 536254 )

      Admitting he doesn't understand the economy is honesty. How many people really understand the economy and not what they get from CNN or even the WSJ? He's not an economist - so what? What a good president should do is get a lot of good advisors, who understand their areas, and listen to their advice. Sure, the president has to understand it enough to ask some tough questions and try to determine what else it will affect - but they can't be experts in everything.

      I would rather have someone who admitted

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Doc Ruby ( 173196 )
        Oh, yeah - just like George Bush. You Republicans really never learn about trusting authority instead of competence. Or the difference between a false dilemma like "lying ignoramus or honest ignoramus", and someone who can actually understand the economy, which is far from impossible at the level that presidents operate.

        It's not like we need a "presidentist". We need someone with a brain who can tell when his advisors are lying to him. Or care - it's been a long time since we've had a Republican president w
  • by Bob9113 ( 14996 ) on Sunday March 23, 2008 @09:17PM (#22840866) Homepage
    I'm a bit surprised IT workers are split. While I voted for McCain for Senate while living in Phoenix, I feel Obama is much stronger on tech issues. Here's what really sold me:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4yVlPqeZwo [youtube.com]
  • by Whuffo ( 1043790 ) on Sunday March 23, 2008 @09:22PM (#22840888) Homepage Journal
    While the candidates (and our elected leaders) ask for more and more H1B workers - they're putting American workers out of work. In some sections of the country (like Silicon Valley) there's thousands of unemployed IT workers looking for work.

    Between "outsourcing" and "downsizing" a lot of American IT workers have lost their jobs. They're looking for work, but there's not enough openings to employ them all (not by a long shot).

    Every time the call for more and more H1B workers goes out it further drives home the blatant fact that our government doesn't care about the citizens that it supposedly represents. All their actions do is further enrich their corporate masters.

    But while this evil is transpiring, the simple fact that corporations need customers with money to spend seems to elude everyone. If your population is unemployed and unable to purchase your products, how can you continue to post increasing profits and make your shareholders happy?

    Sure, it's cheaper to produce it in China or support it in India. But who is going to buy it? Those American workers you laid off were the customers you were selling your products to.

    These corporations are very short-sighted. When their market contracts (due to fewer customers) their profits will decrease. Will they try to make up the difference by hiring even more cheap foreign labor and further erode their customer base? Will our corporate masters continue to believe that their actions have no repercussions? Sometimes I wonder...

  • IT Policy Matrix? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by MrSteveSD ( 801820 ) on Sunday March 23, 2008 @09:30PM (#22840948)
    Is there an IT Policy matrix to compare the candidates? I know that both Clinton and Obama are in favour of net neutrality, and McCain opposes it, but what of the other issues? I know Ralph Nader is against software patents, but I don't have a clue about the other candidates stance on that.
  • by rlp ( 11898 ) on Sunday March 23, 2008 @10:28PM (#22841356)
    Why settle for the lesser evil.

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