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Russian School Teacher 'Pirate' Case Re-Opened 97

newtley writes "Russian school teacher Alexander Ponosov thought he was out from under after having been accused of 'criminally' using Microsoft product. A Russian court threw the case out, calling it 'trivial,' and Russian president Vladimir Putin said those who make "pirate" goods should be targeted, not consumers, calling the trial "utter nonsense". Now the BBCA Russian court has ordered a retrial, 'after pressure from the prosecution'. However, Ponosovhas now launched a web site. It's in Russian."
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Russian School Teacher 'Pirate' Case Re-Opened

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  • by Profane MuthaFucka ( 574406 ) * <busheatskok@gmail.com> on Friday March 30, 2007 @10:21AM (#18543789) Homepage Journal
    That's way too hard to read. Who can learn all that? It's like the Russians have a different word for everything!
    • Re: (Score:1, Funny)

      by saskboy ( 600063 )
      I'm not sure if this is a case of welcoming our Russian prosecutor overlords,
      or pointing out that in Capitalist Russia, Microsoft sues You.

      So very confused...
    • Those were words? I thought it was some new crypto.
    • by after ( 669640 )
      Yeah, we do have a different work for every thing.

      Windows Vista Home Basic:

      # For basic home needs such as e-mail and Internet access.
      # Price: $99.95

      US$ 99.94 = 2,600.03904 Russian rubles

      In Russia,

      Bottle Vodka = 50 rubles.

      60 bottles of beer = 300 rubles.

      Subway ticket = 5 rubles.

      3g cocaine = 3,000 rubles.

      New "Russian" car = 50,000 - 75,000 rubles.

      You be the judge.
      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by Benanov ( 583592 )
        For the price, seems like 3g of cocaine's a lot more useful than a copy of Vista Home Basic.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by brianosaurus ( 48471 )
        Its very interesting that Cocaine (3g ~ $120 == 3122 rubles, or so I've heard ;) and Windows ($99 here and there) are priced the same as in the US, while everything else on your list is way cheaper in Russia. Does the Windows price in other countries also track with Cocaine? Do other drugs and contraband follow the same scale?

        Is Windows really placing itself in the same market as illegal substances, rather than on par with the legal consumer products?

        For reference, here's how your other items compare:

        - Yo
        • by Dunbal ( 464142 )
          Beer is about 5 times more here (12-pack of budweiser for $10 vs your $11.50 for 60 bottles).

                Speaking as a non American I must insist that Budweiser is NOT beer!!! :P
      • You exaggerate. All these prices (except for Vista) should be tripled.
  • Eye Opener. (Score:2, Informative)

    It's an interesting debate about who should be held liable, the user or the provider. In this case, they are siding with the user.
    • I suppose one way to look at it is: If you make the average consumer liable, they will be that much less inclined to not buy the pirated software to begin with. No customers = no pirates.

      Not that I completely agree with that theory, but it's certainly a valid take on it.
      =Smidge=
      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by chaoticgeek ( 874438 )
        But average Joe does not know what differs a pirated version from the real deal. My room mate has XP installed and all he knows is his friend back home fixed his computer, but it is not a real copy or install and he does not understand that. He tried to the the MS genuine verification thing and it failed and I tried to explain that to him but he just does not understand.
        • Well, buying stolen property has been illegal for many years, even though the same argument can be used to defend people prosecuted for it. How are they supposed to know, for example, that the nice car audio system they bought for $50 from a strange looking guy, was stolen?

          Now, I'm not asking for a debate on whether license infringement is equivalent to stealing in all respects — just pointing out, that the argument you put forward applies (or, rather, does not apply) equally to both.

          • I'm saying it is hard for non /. folk to understand what a pirated version of windows is... All he knows is his friend fixed his computer. He does not know how but he knows that it is now working again so he is happy.
          • Ok, I've re read your post again and I think I've come to understand your point quite a bit better. It is not that my room mate bought a copy of windows though but since it is technically a "pirated" version he could get in trouble. However he knows nothing of this and all he really wanted his friend to do was remove all the crap that had built up over the year he had the computer. He gives it to a friend who knows something about computers and in a day or two he gets it back and it is working like it is br
            • by mi ( 197448 )

              Well, some people also honestly don't know, that a decent car audio system can not cost $40 (and would not be sold by a homeless guy), unless stolen. In fact, I'm pretty sure, the prosecutor would have to prove, you bought it knowing, it was stolen... Without that, all they can do is return it to the rightful owner.

              But if the owner finds you with it, they can claim it. To keep the analogy with software licenses, the Microsoft has the right to demand payment, and if you dont' pay, but continue using the so

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by glwtta ( 532858 )
      Man, automatically translated ungrammatical blog-y Russian, makes for some nigh-incomprehensible English. It actually does get some extremely colloquial phrases correctly, but also completely messes up some trivial ones.

      Some things are just baffling:

      "It is my understanding that among readers of the magazine legally Kisbér people."

      The word in the original is "shod" (as in past participle of "shoe", as in what you do to a horse), an idiom meaning "skilled/versed in". It's curious how that becom
      • by AlHunt ( 982887 )
        >Man, automatically translated ungrammatical blog-y Russian, makes for some nigh-incomprehensible English.

        No problem. I'll use it for the next round of spam e-mail I send.

  • Great. (Score:3, Funny)

    by Spazntwich ( 208070 ) on Friday March 30, 2007 @10:22AM (#18543819)
    Obviously, Russian prosecutors have no appreciation for the consequences of their actions.

    One less pirate, one step closer to our inevitable demise due to global warming.
    • by Sciros ( 986030 )
      It's only cause all of the Russian pr0n pirates distribute is so hot.
    • One way or another it brings me one step closer to beer spewing volcanoes! Just shows a lawyer is a lawyer all over the world.
      • by Dunbal ( 464142 )
        One way or another it brings me one step closer to beer spewing volcanoes!

              Personally I just want to be allowed to graze awhile on the Giant Meatball before my turn in the Beer Volcano. I wonder if there's Parmesan?
    • by Dunbal ( 464142 )
      Obviously, Russian prosecutors have no appreciation for the consequences of their actions.

      One less pirate, one step closer to our inevitable demise due to global warming.


            Another consequence (especially when Putin has said that this is silly): a little polonium here, a little thallium there... enjoy your sushi, Mr. Prosecutor!
  • I wonder if double jeopardy laws would apply to such a situation in this country. I suppose it has everything to do with how the case was initially dismissed.

    Either way, somehow, I have a feeling that the outcome will be totally different from what it would have been if this case did not have the publicity it is going to have...
    • by guruevi ( 827432 )
      Don't talk to me about double jeopardy. Both in PA and NY state and I guess many other states, it doesn't mean anything in traffic courts, soon it won't mean anything anywhere (DMCA & copyright being an example)
    • by osu-neko ( 2604 )

      I wonder if double jeopardy laws would apply to such a situation in this country. I suppose it has everything to do with how the case was initially dismissed.

      It wouldn't apply at all if the case was dismissed, would it? I thought you needed to be acquitted, but then IANAL.

  • by chris09876 ( 643289 ) on Friday March 30, 2007 @10:24AM (#18543843)
    Microsoft has distanced itself from the prosecution, saying it had nothing to do with the charges and had opted last year not to bring any civil action.

    Microsoft has said they're not interested in prosecuting... no wonder, that would be some bad press. The guy is a school teacher, using Windows on 12 computers in the school. It's probably good news for Microsoft that he's using their software - get the kids hooked on Windows while they're young, so they'll be accustomed to using it (and possibly paying for it) later in life.
    • It would definitely be bad press, especially going after a teacher and there only being 12 computers. That is hardly worth their time. If only the RIAA could learn something from this, they wouldn't look like such jackasses; but of course they are because they are more evil than Microsoft. It is not flamebait or trolling if it is true.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Skuld-Chan ( 302449 )
      You know one thing MS could do that would be charitable is just give the poor guy 12 licenses and tell the Russian courts to fuck off once and for all.
      • Might set a bad precedent in the courts, though. Next thing you know is every school's going to be doing this and asking for their free licences.
      • by rtechie ( 244489 )
        You know one thing MS could do that would be charitable is just give the poor guy 12 licenses and tell the Russian courts to fuck off once and for all.

        I'm pretty certain they already have. "Innocently" receiving pirated software is covered under the TOS and Microsoft can, at their discretion, issue new keys.

        And he's going to win at trial. He's not claiming that he has the "right" to pirate software, but that he didn't pirate it at all. He claims that he got Windows preinstalled on PCs he purchased for the c
      • by Dunbal ( 464142 )
        You know one thing MS could do that would be charitable is just give the poor guy 12 licenses and tell the Russian courts to fuck off once and for all.

              What, and the prosecutor won't get his free laptop?
  • Obligatory (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30, 2007 @10:25AM (#18543851)
    In Soviet Russia FCKGW key enters you!
  • by jhfry ( 829244 ) on Friday March 30, 2007 @10:29AM (#18543899)
    We could use a Martyr in our crusade against ridiculous copyright laws.

    Seriously, this aggression toward a relatively innocent school teacher who only wanted to give his students the best education he couldn't afford... it doesn't cause fear of piracy in the publics eye it causes ANGER.

    Eventually these ridiculous lawsuits and penalties will drive the public to fix a damaged copyright system, or even drive them to embrace products that are not burdened by such copyrights. I just hope it happens soon!
    • ...drive the public to fix a damaged copyright system

      I'm trying [slashdot.org], man. I'm trying. But it appears that people like "damaged". Too much fear of the unknown, I guess. My idea brings out the luddite* in everybody, even the moderators.

      *merely meaning anti-progressive in this case
  • Edubuntu (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ehaggis ( 879721 ) on Friday March 30, 2007 @10:30AM (#18543917) Homepage Journal
    This is why I am launching our school's computer lab with Edubuntu.
    1. Built in Terminal Server - works well with donated (read: ancient) equipment
    2. Great educational programs and games
    3. It just works
    4. Licensing - what licensing?
    5. Maintenance and Administration - very little compared to a similar MS environment.

    Perhaps more people in educational circles will see the benefit of switching from this poor teacher's incident.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by zappepcs ( 820751 )
      His blog was a bit difficult to read, but it looks like he is trying to find help installing Linux on the computers. With the visibility that this case is getting, I wonder how much good PR Linux will get? Perhaps Edubuntu or some other Distro group can send them (Russian educators) some free CDs?
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Technician ( 215283 )

      4. Licensing - what licensing?


      It has a license.. Please read it carefully. Making copies and distributing the software is permitted in the license. The license does have some restrictions including leaving out the license in your copies.

      Downloads: 607
      Developer: Edubuntu Team | More programs by this producer
      License: GPL (GNU General Public License)
      Price: FREE
      Last Updated: March 23rd, 2007 18:13
      Category: MAIN :: System :: Operating Systems :: Linux Distributions

      http://linux.softpedi [softpedia.com]
  • I translate his Russian site and I get: "Where are your nuclear Wessles?"
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      I translate his Russian site and I get: "Where are your nuclear Wessles?"
      That's funny, I got "First we pirate Windows operating system, then we keel moose and squirrel".
    • I translate his Russian site and I get: "Where are your nuclear Wessles?"

      Yeah, at the time the film came out, it was a funny joke and it's still funny, it's just not accurate. For those who don't know, the "w" sound doesn't exist in Russian at all. They would certainly say "vessels" if speaking English. "W" is most often transliterated as "v" into Russian, but they can sort of approximate the sound with something equivalent to the use of "ui" to replace "w". So I hate to burst your bubble, but this is
    • Funny how it would seem to you, it connects if you replace ht with f. New firefox ignores PASV address and connects to localhost http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/8889/screenshot ie5.png [imageshack.us]
      • by XanC ( 644172 )
        Um, I think that's because you happen to be running an FTP server, and not a Web server.
  • Now this is what I'd call a Russian Reversal.
  • Time to Switch (Score:5, Informative)

    by Technician ( 215283 ) on Friday March 30, 2007 @10:33AM (#18543961)
    I wonder how much the liability of running pirated MS products will now be an incentive to move to Linux?

    Most distro's have a Russian language version and don't come with the litigation risk.

    • Re:Time to Switch (Score:4, Informative)

      by Cyberax ( 705495 ) on Friday March 30, 2007 @11:30AM (#18544857)
      There are such talks in the Ministry of Education and a general audit of computer systems at schools is planned (http://www.permoboz.ru/txt.php?n=4971). I don't think they'll lead to anything.

      But there's also a vocal opposition and they do have valid arguments, and a lot of FUD along the way. For example, hired MS "experts" say that: "it's impossible to teach computer science to children without using Windows" and "Experts are united in their opinion that Linux can be used only by technically skilled people with an extensive computer knowledge" (translation is mine, original is on: http://www.permoboz.ru/txt.php?n=4971 [permoboz.ru]).

      The curious thing is that Russian military already uses customized Linux (it's called MSVS :) - Mobilnaya Sistema dla Vohoruzhionnih Sil, Mobile System for Armed Forces).
      • by ceeam ( 39911 )
        MSVS is a cute name for a Linux distro, ain't it? ;)

        But seriously - that sucks - "developers" basically raped GPL - as is no source available and NO license is included with it at all. It's like 60s-70s again (when USSR stole from IBM the whole platform).
        • by Cyberax ( 705495 )
          Well, I'm sure that Russian government will change copyright law to include http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_Domain [wikipedia.org] powers for state agencies.

          Hmm... That sounds like a plan:
          1. Contribute code to Linux.
          2. Sue Russian government for copyright infringement.
          3. ...
          3. Profit for allofmp3!

          Though seriously, MSVS is just a Linux kernel with obsolete (VERY obsolete) userland and a few "nice" visual tools. It is deemed 'secure' because all of its code is thoroughly audited. And I doubt that they violate GPL too mu
      • Experts are united in their opinion that Linux can be used only by technically skilled people with an extensive computer knowledge

        Unfortunately the facts are starting to bust the myth. With new distro's out that are very easy to install, have working applications and much easier to keep bug free, the myth is quickly dying. I am a Linux novice. I had to crack a book to find out how to create a directory from a prompt just last week. This is inspite of having been a Ubuntu user for almost a year. From th
        • by Cyberax ( 705495 )
          Sure.

          But to be fair, there ARE some usability problems with Linux. For example, how can I share _CDROM_ for the local network?

          It sounds easy, but it is not (normal SMB/NFS interferes with automounting)
          • But to be fair, there ARE some usability problems with Linux. For example, how can I share _CDROM_ for the local network?

            In Windows you are used to the concept of mounting a CD in the drive and sharing it via the share folder functions. You are limited by the number of CD rom drives you have.

            In linux, you make an ISO of the CD and put the CD away. While your at it, make ISO's of many CD's. Mount the ISO's and share them. It's not hard.

            Your choice, share a CD which anybody walking by can simply eject wit
            • Forgot the link to show how-to. Also forgot to mention in Windows you can eject a CD at most any time. Seldom does Windows disable the Eject button. In Linux, the Eject function is locked when the CD is mounted most of the time. It will not eject when someone wants to eject and swipe the CD.

              Even if another user logs in and tries to eject the CD, since they are not the owner (Didn't mount it) they do not have privilages to eject the disk. (Physical access to shutdown bypasses this.)

              Here is the link;
              http [idevelopment.info]
    • by ceeam ( 39911 )
      THE problem in Russia with moving to Linux (or FreeBSD) is that Internet connectivity is scarce and very expensive. The only place where it's more or less ok is in Moscow but Moscow is like another country here in Russia.
    • by wmorse ( 1082007 )
      For those whose Russian is a little rusty, the link to livejournal is filled with posts from school administrators and others asking how to install various distros. The incentive to switch is enormous. One comment is titled -- " " "Dropping Microsoft at the Perm Technical University", and links to an blog about PTU's migration effort (in Russian) But here's something to think about: Russian prosecutors could have picked virtually any organization to charge with software piracy. Is this perhaps an at
  • putins right (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Putin makes sense in what he said though, those who distribute the pirated software should be held responsible and not the consumer.
    The reason there is pirated software out there is due to the pirates... This free software is an enticement and leads to people acquiring it in some way or another. If there was no enticement for free products that cost $450 then people wouldn't get them, 2 ways around this, stop piracy or lower the cost of these expensive products (windows vista, office, Maya/Softimage XSI (fo
  • I wonder if this case will help alleviate global warming? /DRTFA //all hail the flying spaghetti monster?
    • by Aladrin ( 926209 )
      Okay, I'll bite...

      How in the world do you see this obviously 1-sided court case creating more pirates?

      Russia thought it was stupid
      Russia dismisses case
      Outside pressure forces case to re-open without legal cause ...

      How can this possibly end well? If he's acquitted AGAIN the outside pressures will simply increase until he's found guilty, whether he actually did it or not. Not a conducive environment to breed pirates in.
  • by rjmx ( 233228 ) on Friday March 30, 2007 @10:42AM (#18544049)
    > "Russian school teacher Alexander Ponosov thought he was
    > out from under after having been accused of 'criminally'
    > using Microsoft product"

    It should be criminal to use a Microsoft product.

  • by cioxx ( 456323 ) on Friday March 30, 2007 @10:49AM (#18544175) Homepage
    The administrator in question is enjoying this publicity and thumbing his nose at the authorities and Microsoft as if it is some kind of a virtue to run machines preloaded with pirated copies of Windows. There has been talk in Russian press that he was well aware that software was illegal on dozen of the machines but still decided to cut the costs and pocket the difference.

    During a court trial he was asked to apologize and move on but he insisted of filing an appeal to "clear his name" and play a martyr of some sort. In sum, this guy is an asshole.

    If one were to put aside the bias towards Microsoft, it's clear that Panosov is being defiant, despite him being completely guilty.

    I've checked his blog and he's asking his readers on how to partition the NTFS drive and install Linux alongside windows. I don't think he learned a lesson here. He's not the saintly school teacher who was unknowingly victimized by prosecutors as the media had initially reported.
    • ...cut the costs and pocket the difference.

      So he did it to steal money? Defiance is cool. Robbery isn't.
      • by Dunbal ( 464142 )
        Defiance is cool. Robbery isn't.

              Actually I think that depends. Robbing a little old lady's pension cheque is very uncool. Robbing a first world government for the amount of $3 BN is way up on the coolness list...
        • Nope. Sorry. Coolness applies equally to everybody. Taking is uncool no matter who you do it to. That's why copyright is uncool. It takes from the public and gives special privileges to the publishers. Besides, It's impossible to "rob" a government. They'll always pass it on to you-know-who.
    • Perhaps he needs to ensure the Linux distribution selected will function with his hardware, and perhaps he has data on his NTFS partitions which must be migrated before blowing the partition entirely....
    • by rs232 ( 849320 ) on Friday March 30, 2007 @01:17PM (#18546647)
      'The administrator in question is enjoying this publicity and thumbing his nose at the authorities and Microsoft'

      Like how, he is protesting his innocence. He likes having the threat of a jail sentence hanging over his head? This is the second time a school teacher is facing jail time for using Windows. See here where a 7th grade [theregister.co.uk] teacher gets arrested when porn images pop up in the browser on a Win98 desktop. The expert prosecution witness says there is no way such images could have got on without user interaction. Something we all know is a big lie.

      The teachers union on both continents should have the schools sign a do not sue waiver before touching the computer. Or maybe the EULA should be updated .. use of the product can land you a hefty jail sentence.

      'there has been talk in Russian press that he was well aware that software was illegal on dozen of the machines but still decided to cut the costs and pocket the difference'

      Do you have any evidence for this wacky anecdote.

      'During a court trial he was asked to apologize and move on but he insisted of filing an appeal to "clear his name" and play a martyr of some sort. In sum, this guy is an asshole'

      What trial? the first case was thrown out. Also the original claim changed from piracy to illegally using the software. Even so the Judge saw fit not to proceed. Where does it say he was asked to apologize. Why would he appeal a non case. Where does it say he appealed.

      'If one were to put aside the bias towards Microsoft, it's clear that Panosov is being defiant, despite him being completely guilty'

      What are you smoking, toad juice? What bias? How does defending oneself in a court of law equate to being biased? I thought even in your country people are deemed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 'Your honour the defendant is obviously guilty as he has chosen to plead innocent' :)

      'I've checked his blog and he's asking his readers on how to partition the NTFS drive and install Linux alongside windows. I don't think he learned a lesson here. He's not the saintly school teacher who was unknowingly victimized by prosecutors as the media had initially reported'

      What blog? Do you mind providing a citation to this blog where it actually says that. How in the alternate Bizarro world that you occupy does installing Linux equate to being guilty in a case of software piracy.

      was Not the whole story... (Score:5, Interesting :) you have got to be taking the piss!!
      • I'd like you to meet a friend of mine: Mr. Question Mark. You know, he really likes being used at the end of sentences that are supposed to be questions (as his name would suggest) -- even rhetorical ones. See, for example, he could be used to construct a sentence such as "Where does it say he appealed?". See, he immediately makes it much easier for the reader to tell that the sentence is interrogative.

        What do you say, would you consider making him an acquaintance?

        • by rs232 ( 849320 )
          I would have thought your onboardlexical analyser would be sufficiently advanced to decode the sentence construct without the redundant question mark.

          %{ #include "y.tab.h"
          %}

          digit [0-9]
          letter [a-zA-Z]

          %%

          "?" { return INTERROGATIVE; }
          "where" { return INTERROGATIVE; }
          "what" { return INTERROGATIVE; }
          "how" { return INTERROGATIVE; }
          "if" { return INTERROGATIVE; }

          %%

          int yywrap(void){return 1;}
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      If one were to put aside the bias towards Microsoft, it's clear that Panosov is being defiant, despite him being completely guilty.

      I don't think thats clear at all. According to the Wikipedia article about this [wikipedia.org], Cnews.ru is the one reporting that he and a friend did this to embezzle money. He has denied it.

      Without more evidence than journalistic hearsay, one cannot be sure.

    • by rtechie ( 244489 )
      ...run machines preloaded with pirated copies of Windows. There has been talk in Russian press that he was well aware that software was illegal on dozen of the machines but still decided to cut the costs and pocket the difference.

      How did he do this? I'm seriously asking the question because what you're implying is pretty unlikely. What HE claims is that he ordered 12 systems with 12 legal copies of Windows XP (I believe) preinstalled. He claims that the upstream vendor gave him bogus licenses. So I see 4 p
    • You're also not telling the whole story. To start with, he wasn't pocketing anything due to use of pirated software. The software was provided by the firm which was selected at government's bid alongside with computers. The school received computers with software preinstalled. In Russian schools all the accounting is done by centralized office, which oversees all schools in a district. And all those schools do not keep financial documents for whatever they receive from the government (including hardware/sof
  • "It's in Russian."

    I like the way that sounds like an accusation.
    "I say, there, he's released one of those web-a-majoo-dahs I've heard so much about.
    "Oh, wait, ignore that; it's in some kind of foreign language.
    "*derisive laughter* Why would he bother?"

    Can't believe there are no obligs on this one ;)
  • by geoffrobinson ( 109879 ) on Friday March 30, 2007 @11:13AM (#18544587) Homepage
    You never hear about 'Ninja' trials.
    • >There are only 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.

      What about the other 0x0E kinds? :)

      -Z
  • I`m working on translating it but im working a dbl shift at the moment and im not totally fluent in russian. Maybe this weekeend will provide a window of time but dont count on me finishing a translation any time soon.
  • by swschrad ( 312009 ) on Friday March 30, 2007 @11:47AM (#18545129) Homepage Journal
    microsoft says if you aren't going to BUY their software, it's sorta OK to warez it, because some day they'll jerk the rod and you'll have to buy it, being hooked.

    but they're sparing no international pressure to destroy this educator in russia.

    which lie should I believe? Bill? Monkeyboy? anybody???

    I quit the MS habit cold after millenium, and my Mac does everything worth doing.
  • take that... um... whoever is suing (according to wiki, it's not MS)
  • That must have been a really *shitty* name to grow up with!!

    hehehehehe
  • In Soviet Russia, double jeopardy has you!
  • I've created http://alex-ponosov-en.livejournal.com/ [livejournal.com] and started translating Alexander's journal. Any help from the Russian-English translators would be highly appreciated. I know my English is not perfect, so any corrections are more than welcome.
  • The situation with Ponosov like this: 1. The Writer writes a book 2. The Publisher without the permissions from the writer publish the book. 3. The reader reads this book Is the reader are criminal?

Keep up the good work! But please don't ask me to help.

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