John McAfee Pondering Presidential Bid 184
An anonymous reader writes: Since this U.S. presidential election cycle clearly isn't chaotic enough already, it seems John McAfee is now considering a campaign as well. Wired reports that McAfee hasn't decided for sure yet, and he's hoping to persuade somebody more charismatic to run with his backing. He said his advisors are pressing him to run, adding, "I have many thousands of emails saying please run for President. It's not something I would just choose to do on my own." What would his platform be? It actually sounds pretty simple: "It's clear that the leadership of our country is illiterate on the fundamental technology that supports everything in life for us now, that is cyber science, our smartphones, our military hardware, our communications." He'd be a strong proponent for privacy and autonomy. We should know in a few days whether McAfee is in or out — Wired says he "seems far more concerned with having his voice heard on one particular issue than with taking a seat in the Oval Office."
Something seems to have changed his mind about politics: in a 2014 interview here, McAfee said. "I would never run for office, neither would I want to be in office, of any kind. I would rather drive a nail through my foot." According to the paperwork McAfee has filed, he is founding a new party (PDF).
Libertarian? (Score:3, Interesting)
I want to know which party he'd run under. Or if he would be independent.
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That would be the "Pants on Head" party. Not much different than the usual suspects, but with a little added bit of crazy.
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Antivirus for all !!! Yay...
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So... if I don't vote for him, would that make me an anti-vaccer? :)
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I want to know which party he'd run under. Or if he would be independent.
The GOP field is too crowded. Run as a Libertarian or as a Democrat. Since Biden may not run, and Hilary is imploding, that's the best opportunity
Lessig/Sanders (Score:2)
Run as a Libertarian or as a Democrat. Since Biden may not run, and Hilary is imploding, that's the best opportunity
Among people who understand what McAfee software was intended to do, the Lessig/Sanders ticket probably has that demographic tied up.
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Among people who understand what McAfee software was intended to do, the Lessig/Sanders ticket probably has that demographic tied up.
Did you mean Lessig/Sanders as an either-or, or do you think there's a possibility of a Lessig for president and Sanders as his VP? Don't think that would ever be a possibility. If McAfee decides to run, his new party can be called the Vanity party, and Lessig can join him.
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I want to know who he is. The antivirus guy?
Oh boy.
At this point, I'm certain he would love to only be remembered for his bloatware, but his history is a bit more creative to say the least.
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What that's the john mcafee video you link to? https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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The Killer App ticket...
McAfee/Reiser '16
Security Clearance (Score:1)
Doesn't the President need a security clearance?
Can someone who ran a drug lab get a security clearance? I think they ask specifically about drug use if you apply for a security clearance.
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No, the President does not require a security clearance.
He has access to virtually all information by virtue of his Constitutional office.
Re:Security Clearance (Score:5, Insightful)
He has access to virtually all information by virtue of his Constitutional office.
You'd think so, but there have been times when the President was removed from "need to know" on various bits of information.
The cracking of the Japanese code in WWII was withheld from FDR for a time, and other information has been withheld from time to time.
That being said, your statement is generally true.
Re:Security Clearance (Score:5, Insightful)
No, the President does not require a security clearance. He has access to virtually all information by virtue of his Constitutional office.
Yeah, something tells me the POTUS position kinda gets a pass on the whole background investigation thing.
It certainly will have to if Hillary is somehow elected.
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The background check is accomplished during the election campaign. People who oppose a candidate will delve into that persons background in depth looking for the slightest abnormality or perceived wrongdoing to gain electoral advantage. There is nothing the FBI, NSA, CIA, DIA, or any of the other state security services can discover that cannot be discovered by the general public. The closer a person gets to being elected the harder his opponents will look for any thing to derail that persons chances of bei
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There is nothing the FBI, NSA, CIA, DIA, Google, or Facebook can discover that cannot be discovered by the general public.
there fixed it for you!
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There is nothing the FBI, NSA, CIA, DIA, Google, or Facebook can discover that cannot be discovered by the general public
. there fixed it for you!
I'd be a lot less worried about the last two than the first four, or any other alphabet agency for that matter. It's extraordinarily unlikely that Google or Facebook would ever send men with guns to your house or freeze your assets without explanation.
Re: Security Clearance (Score:2)
Option 3: it is politically advantageous to play up threats in the US because fear politics are effective but politically advantageous to play down threats in China and Russia because appearing invincible is effective.
Never make the mistake of thinking what politicians focus on is correlated to how important it is. Cyber espionage is simply to powerful and easilly available an espionage weapon not to be stock in trade by every government against every government. Hell even tiny South Africa was caught spyin
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Everyone spies on everyone else it's just that some countries are better at it than others. When information on the NSA foreign activities was published a lot of people got all peevish and loudly shouted their indignation that a countries FOREIGN intelligence service actually had the nerve to conduct foreign intelligence operations. Making arguments that the US Constitution and Bill of Rights should apply to foreign citizens living on foreign soil. I'm sorry but the only law when conducting foreign surveill
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Myanmar ! :D
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And its cute that you think they use polygraphs, which means you haven't either.
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What? Are you ignorant of the use of the polygraph? GP even specifically referred to the counterintelligence version of it. Which is kinder than the CIA's lifestyle polygraph. For example, you run into the CI-scope poly for anyone working for the NSA. But the poly gets invoked quite a bit. Have an inconsistency in your background? Some details that make the agency wibbly?
Most of the people I know hit the CI-scope poly, but I also knew an ex-drug dealer who was given the poly so they could feel better about
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Wrong. But of course I actually know something about the subject instead of imagining it or basing it on movies and TV shows.
Getting a clearance is largely an exercise in paperwork, and everything has to line up. The problems occur when things don't line up or certain facts emerge. If you are a native American (born here, not naturalized), have done no international travel or had any concerning contact without a felony conviction it is a matter of filling out the forms and the background investigation match
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As I had stopped around 6 years ago, I had no questions about it when I got a call back for clarification on
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In principle anyone can get a clearance. Yes, drug questions are involved. But it is a discovery, not an inquisition. Saying you did drugs does not preclude obtaining a clearance. Omitting drug use from the PSQ will almost certainly result in denial.
Peak Slashdot (Score:3)
This is a front page story.
I guess it makes sense.... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:I guess it makes sense.... (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh, wait...
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08... [nytimes.com]
Re:I guess it makes sense.... (Score:5, Informative)
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There may have been an instant of time, long ago in the legends, when it was an excellent anti-virus. But as they say, the moment was fleeting.
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He stopped having anything to do with antivirus since the early Windows 98 days. That is, Windows ME wasn't a thing, and neither was Windows XP for that matter.
During those days it wasn't any slower than any other antivirus software that I recall, and it was actually easy to remove if you wanted to do so. It wasn't until about 2004 that both McAfee and Norton became the dread of many a computer user.
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There may have been an instant of time, long ago in the legends, when it was an excellent anti-virus. But as they say, the moment was fleeting.
That time was in the DOS era, when every minute felt like hours, so the moment was less fleeting than you might imagine. Mcafee was the antivirus for DOS. And ISTR it was still relevant into the Win3.1 era, but I repeat myself.
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become??? I dont ever recall a time when it was good
Then you have a poor memory. There was a time when MBR and TSR viruses for MS-DOS could be removed either by a format or by using McAfee. Norton came soon after, IIRC. But for a while McAfee reigned king in the AV space.
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In 2012, when asked if he personally uses McAfee anti-virus he replied by saying "I take it off," and that "It's too annoying." - Wikipedia
"Hackers see hacking me as a badge of honor". He added that for his own security he has other people buy his computer equipment for him, uses pseudonyms for setting up computers and logging in, and changes his IP address several times a day. - Wikipedia
So he goes through extraordinary efforts to keep using Windows for no proffitable reason. Seems presidential to me.
Re:I guess it makes sense.... (Score:5, Funny)
do I really have to go for the obvious joke?
ok. you forced me.
the reason we do not want him to be president is: once he's installed, he'll be impossible to be removed!
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Camacho 2016! [redbubble.net]
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I'm voting for Trump. He's the only candidate who doesn't talk like a fag.
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Logged in just to see if I had points to help pull you out of that flamebait mod.
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Thanks pal. :)
Re:I guess it makes sense.... (Score:4, Insightful)
The problem with America are people who know how to use sarcasm and irony?
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And... you're what's wrong with USA these days. Congratulations.
I'm pretty sure he was sarcastically paraphrasing one of the characters in the movie Idiocracy [imdb.com].
Then again, you never know [wikipedia.org].
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There's that fag talk again. Don't worry scrote! There's plenty of 'tards out there living reeeeeally kick-ass lives.
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I think the more batshit crazy candidates in the election, the better. And it leads to some interesting revelations.
It's quite frightening, when you can't tell if an election soundbite came from Donald Trump, Hilary Clinton or John McAfee. They all, in fact do, start to sound like they are all batshit crazy.
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Stability (Score:2)
Re:Stability (Score:5, Funny)
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I'm thinking Charlie Sheen. Together, they've probably done more drugs than half the country combined. It'd certainly be entertaining!
I also immediately thought of Charlie Sheen...and Ted Nugent. ;-)
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Re:Stability (Score:5, Funny)
"Most of the other candidates are batshiat crazy, why not throw John into that mix?"
Here's how I would do it: In every election, place McAfee by default onto both the Republican and Democratic candidate list. The parties would have to go to special trouble to delete him from the list each time before someone better could be run. Deleting him would not be tat easy, either; it would take a special "removal tool."
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Yep, I know I'd want a guy who's voluntarily played Russian Roulette to occupy the presidency.
two reasons:
1) he's not a pansy
2) he does not scare easily
being somewhat serious, for a moment, we have 'leaders' who continue to play the "be afraid! all the fucking time!" card. they now govern by fear and we lose rights more and more as those jerks continue to screw us over for their own good.
I'd like to have someone in office say 'life is hard, its unsafe by definition and by nature and we are not going to le
Gambling with a toy gun (Score:2)
I know I'd want a guy who's voluntarily played Russian Roulette to occupy the presidency.
What's wrong with a little bit of gambling with a toy gun [pineight.com]?
Public Service Experience (Score:5, Insightful)
Business leaders should spend at least 4 years as a representative in Congress or a state governor in my opinion, and show aptitude there. Running government and dealing with politics is too different from the private sector. You have to learn how to compromise and persuade, not just order around underlings to carry out your vision your way.
This also applies to Trump, Carly, and Carson.
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Not true. Those politicians owe a lot of favors. They take their orders from the private sector.
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You have to learn how to compromise and persuade, not just order around underlings to carry out your vision your way.
You have a very skewed vision of how business leadership works. It's definitely different from politics, but it's impossible to be a successful executive without being good at compromise and persuasion. At the CEO level this is perhaps a little less important with respect to your own company, but it's still relevant to relationships with shareholders, partners, suppliers, and even large customers. And as executives rise through the ranks, or start companies, those skills are essential as well.
Re:Public Service Experience (Score:5, Interesting)
we have gone how long electing governors and senators and we end up with bush and obama??? yeah we can do much much better if we open the pool to those not beholden to the whims of government
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I disagree. I want someone in government who isnt in government for the single reason that they are not in government.
But then they'd be in government, and you'd have to impeach them to replace them with someone who isn't in government.
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what i am saying is that career politicians are probably the worst people to elect because they are so out of touch with reality its sad.
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At this point, I mainly think, "Please don't mess things up too badly."
That's a limit on the electorate. (Score:2)
Business leaders should spend at least 4 years as a representative in Congress or a state governor in my opinion, and show aptitude there. Running government and dealing with politics is too different from the private sector. You have to learn how to compromise and persuade, not just order around underlings to carry out your vision your way.
That's a bunch of "nice to have"s. But making it a requirement would be an arbitrary limit on the citizens' ability to elect a candidate of their choice. Sorry, I can'
Evolving positions over time (Score:5, Funny)
I wonder if he has also reconsidered his position on driving a nail through his foot?
Well this is the future, why not? (Score:1)
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What the hell. I'd vote for McAfee before I vote for Trump. If Trump can run, why not McAfee?
McAfee has experience with the "running" part. How long did he avoid extradition?
Must be a joke? (Score:4, Informative)
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Completely wrong. This has never been definitively resolved by either Congress or the Supreme Court.
To the extent that it hasn't been resolved the candidate can play it any way he wants to. The assumption is that he IS qualified until somebody - with standing - gets a court to rule he is not.
Even getting such a challenge heard, let alone heard in a timely fashion and obtaining a remedy that would eject the candidate from an ongoing electoral process or a seat in office, is a very difficult thing. (Look at
Who cares? (Score:2)
Who cares if anyone runs without backing from either side of The Party? It's not like anyone who wasn't part of the DemReps was elected president in the past century and a half.
Not elgible? (Score:2)
I thought that felons were ineligible to run for the US Presidency.
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1. No, they're not ineligible.
2. John McAfee isn't a felon.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
At this rate (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe the US should just consider picking someone at random. Just write a program that takes all adults that meet the criteria for president (age, born in the US, etc) and select one. Can't be worse than what's going on now. And as a added bonus US carbon emissions will plummet since there won't be all of the campaigning.
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I always thought that picking congress for a year out of the citizen on the jury duty list would be better than whatever we have right now.
Re:At this rate (Score:4, Informative)
Arthur C Clarke's novel "Imperial Earth" does this: The future USA have decided that anyone who wants to be in the Whitehouse should never be allowed to be there. They make a list of people who are competent and would need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the Whitehouse, but once there will do their best. Then they just choose their president by lottery from that list.
He should join Lessig (Score:4, Insightful)
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Turd Sandwich ... or Giant Douche (Score:2)
He meets all of the qualifications to run.... ...and he could even pardon himself for that murder in Belize... ...but lacks all the skills necessary to represent 319 million US Citizens.
Still... it would be the quickest way to get the Executive (including the DoJ)
to lay off pot... and he's not as loony as Donald Trump.
E
McAfee vs. Trump (Score:2)
As insane as this sounds, I would love to watch a debate between McAfee and Trump. I think it would be some form of epic.
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As insane as this sounds, I would love to watch a debate between McAfee and Trump.
Make it a duel instead of a debate. The weapons? Airsoft AEGs, Paintball and Star Wars Laser swords. It's high time that we get some dynamics back into American politics!
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G. Gordon Liddy and Timothy Leary used to have debates (http://articles.latimes.com/1989-07-12/entertainment/ca-3542_1_timothy-leary [latimes.com])
I'm sure McAfee can match Leary for consumption of mind altering substances.
I like John... (Score:2)
I like John... but my vote would hinge on his selection of a VP.
Sadly the VP selection is so late in the game that I cannot convince myself
that knowing what I need to know when I need to know it is very much
in doubt.
I would like to keep the Electoral College and change primary laws to
address a team from the get go.
The EC may prove to to be out best check and balance in this upcoming popularity poll.
Two cars in every garage (Score:2)
And a gram up every backside!
After watching this... (Score:2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
He has my vote.
Shaking my head in sadness.... (Score:2)
It's clear that the leadership of our country is illiterate on the fundamental technology ...
Yes, there is no doubt that most politicians in most countries know pretty little about technology, science, maths, medicine etc. Being a successful politician - and even more, being a successful president - requires skills that are very far removed from what it takes to be a good engineer. They may not be skills that we as engineers appreciate or admire, but that is to some degree because we simply don't have those skills. And of course, in recognition of that, they have advisors to help them make decision
His stance on drugs (Score:2)
Would be WIIIIIDE OPEN! Free pot to the disadvantaged, so he'd have the poor vote and the tech vote.
Free birth control of all kinds, so he'd have the women's vote.
Sounds like he could win!
McAfee said (Score:2)
McAfee said. "I would never run for office, neither would I want to be in office, of any kind. I would rather drive a nail through my foot."
But... I could actaully see him doing that. Just once to experience the sensation of it.
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They need a lot of prep time to have a hope of challenging President Trump in 2020.
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McAfee as president? This isn't even funny. McAfee is just about certifiable, In fact about all that keeps him out of a publicly funded mental institution is his money. Should he run out of money, he would be locked up in pretty short order for either breaking the law or being a danger to himself and others.
Where I understand the general "we hate politicians" bent in this country right now, can we please stick with supporting people who are something more than just bombastic loudmouths who say outrageous
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McAfee is just about certifiable, In fact about all that keeps him out of a publicly funded mental institution is his money.
You mean like Trump?
That's how money is. That's how presidential candidates are. The last decent man of a president we had was Carter. Since then it's been career politicians who lie to you as easy as they look at you. If we somehow end up with Trump then we get the first obviously insane president since the later Reagan years, that would be entertaining. I actually bothered to register to vote so I could support Bernie, though. I don't know if he has a chance to win, or change anything substantive if he do
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What? Now I have coffee all over my desk.... Carter? Where you even alive then? I remember the national speed limit, gas rationing and the brain dead energy policies he put in place.
Until the current administration, Carter was the worst president in history and was a career politician like the rest since then. His foreign policy was a disaster (curiously with Iran and the middle east in tatters by the time he left office) and his economic policy a total failure during his term in office (curiously like
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The last decent man of a president we had was Carter.
Carter may have been a nice guy, but he was a horrible president...
Thanks for agreeing with me. You could have done it with a shorter comment.
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Still, you made me wipe my desk down this morning...
Being a "nice guy" does not preclude one from doing stupid stuff and in Carter's case one could argue his "nice guy" image was actually a problem for him as a leader. Personally, I don't believe leaders can be like Carter and be effective.
Also, I think you are discounting the last Bush... He seemed like a nice guy to me... Don't get me started on Romney, who was a *really* nice guy, who got pillaged by the press for being a mean rich white guy when i
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I think you mean "Compete" and not "Contend".
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Since we know for a fact that Obama came to earth from Krypton, any birth certificate is ipso facto a forgery.
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Why? We need a real man...
Says the guy posting as an AC
Bob Iger (Score:2)
A vote for Mickey Mouse is a vote for Bob Iger, and a vote for Bob Iger is a vote for copyright maximalist idiocy.
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For someone with a proven track record, we could always nominate Hans Reiser.