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Turkey Heightens Twitter Censorship with Mandated IP Blocking 102

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The Net may have briefly routed around Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdoan's DNS-based anti-Twitter censorship, but the minister's next move has been to mandate that Turkish ISPs block Twitter's assigned IP addresses. Reports Ars Technica: " This move essentially erases Twitter from the Internet within Turkey—at least to those people who don’t have access to SMS messaging, a foreign virtual private network or Web proxy service, or the Tor anonymizing network. 'We can confirm that Turkey is now blocking the IP addresses of Twitter after the previous DNS blocking technique proved ineffective,' said Doug Madory, of the Internet monitoring company Renesys, in an e-mail to Ars. A Turkish government webpage shows that there is an IP address block order in effect for 199.16.156.6, the primary IP address for twitter.com."
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Turkey Heightens Twitter Censorship with Mandated IP Blocking

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  • Whack-a-mole (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Rinisari (521266) on Sunday March 23, 2014 @05:52PM (#46559407) Homepage Journal

    And now, if Twitter wants to, it can make Turkey play whack-a-mole by moving IPs every time one gets blocked...

    • Re:Whack-a-mole (Score:5, Insightful)

      by mysidia (191772) on Sunday March 23, 2014 @07:15PM (#46559961)

      And now, if Twitter wants to, it can make Turkey play whack-a-mole by moving IPs every time one gets blocked...

      Perhaps someone can persuade Twitter to get a cloudflare account, and use GeoDNS to send Turkey users to some IP addresses shared by a large number of legitimate websites, in order to maximize the amount of collateral damage Turkey will inflict if it keeps attempting to ban Twitter by blocking IP addresses.

      • by GbrDead (702506)

        I don't think Erdogan cares about collateral damage.

      • by gl4ss (559668)

        Erdogan doesn't really give a fuck if you block cnn, bbc and others.

        for him it would be a benefit.

      • by neonKow (1239288)

        I am not an expert, but my understanding of GeoDNS is that you would still have to own those IP addresses (at least in Turkey) to make that feasible. It doesn't seem like it would be that easy to clobber legitimate website's IP address.

    • Paying to evade political censorship is every corporation's favorite thing to do.

  • by pla (258480) on Sunday March 23, 2014 @05:55PM (#46559431) Journal
    Well now! That should buy them a whole five minutes of government-mandated third-worlditude. Good job, boys!

    Remember, if they outlaw Twitter, only outlaws (and the Turkish President... And... Okay, just about everyone) will have Tweets!
    • by jc42 (318812)
      So does this mean I'll have to finally get a twitter account, in sympathy and solidity with Turkish "outlaws"?
  • by mudshark (19714) on Sunday March 23, 2014 @05:56PM (#46559447)

    Cue the reverse proxy mirror sites in 3...2...1

  • by bazmail (764941) on Sunday March 23, 2014 @05:56PM (#46559449)
    What an embarrassment of a human being that guy is.

    As well as being corrupt as all hell hes trying to stop people talking about it in the most clown-fuck stupid way. Mr. Recep Tayyip Erdogan I am embarrassed to be a part of the same species as you.
    • by Applehu Akbar (2968043) on Sunday March 23, 2014 @06:54PM (#46559775)

      And he rules the most advanced part of the Middle East. Besides tour groups carefully shepherded around the Valley of Kings by Egyptian soldiers Turkey is the one part of the area that tourists actually want to go to. Great job destroying your one decent source of revenue. Erdogan seems intent on undoing the work of Kemal Ataturk and bringing back the seventh century.

      • by Opportunist (166417) on Sunday March 23, 2014 @09:55PM (#46560829)

        Erh... no. Turkey was way more "western" shortly after Ataturk turned it towards the west than it is now after a few years of rule from this old, backwards man. He pretty much did everything in his power to turn back time in Turkey, undoing so much progress that it hurts to watch how this beautiful and so promising country has to suffer from that regime.

    • That may be, but he is PM, isn't he? And don't be surprised if he gets reelected. He has plenty of supporters. There are growing numbers of people in Europe with views similar to his.

      • Communism is the dictatorship of the proletariat, democracy is the dictatorship of the proles.

        Sadly I don't really have a better idea for a government. Except maybe that we should put "you have to be at least THIS intelligent to vote" signs in front of election booths, similar to amusement rides and height.

    • I'm a human being and I resent being lumped together with something like that! I kindly ask you to take that statement back!

  • by Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) on Sunday March 23, 2014 @05:57PM (#46559459)

    What does he think he's going to achieve with that? More people will get smarter on the internet and in the end, his state's ability to spy on its own citizens will suffer.

  • by jonfr (888673) on Sunday March 23, 2014 @06:01PM (#46559499) Homepage

    It is clear that twitter and other such websites need to move into IPv6 space to avoid censorship. Twitter is not on IPv6 today.

    ping6 -c 4 twitter.com
    unknown host

    • Re:IPv6 needed (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 23, 2014 @06:26PM (#46559625)

      It is just as easy to block a host by the upper 64 bits of its IPv6 address as it is to block a host by its IPv4 address. You get a bazillion addresses with your IPv6 allocation, but it's actually easier to block you on IPv6, because all your addresses are contiguous, whereas it's not unusual to have multiple discontiguous allocations of IPv4 addresses. That is one of the reasons for the big address space: To be able to give everyone more addresses than they will ever need so that nobody needs to get a second allocation, thus keeping the routing tables small.

      • by jonfr (888673)

        While that is true to some extent. It is also the amount of IPv6 addresses out there. I doubt Turkey or anyone for that matter can block all of the IPv6 address all the time. The block file would be huge if it was to be done. I am also not sure if current censorship software supports IPv6 blocking. It might do so already, but I don't keep up with those things.

        Twitter can get its own /32 range. That is a lot of IPv6 addresses to have. Even if you just use one /64 block at the time. Maybe we need 512-bit IP a

    • by Anonymous Coward

      That would not achieve anything. IPv6 addresses are not encrypted and they can still be blocked.

      • by unixisc (2429386)
        Don't IPv6 packets get encapsulated in IPsec? That seems to suggest that they are indeed encrypted.
        • by Anonymous Coward

          No, IPsec is an end-to-end encryption scheme. To route any packet - whatever the protocol - there needs to be addresses. If you encrypt addresses then intermediate routers cannot send your packet anywhere. So even if you are tunneling with IPsec you have to wrap it all up in another IP packet - with addresses for the router.

          Not sure how you got a score of 2.

  • by Nimey (114278) on Sunday March 23, 2014 @06:06PM (#46559529) Homepage Journal

    Follow these directions to set up Tor obfuscated bridges and give them a path around the censorship:

    https://www.torproject.org/pro... [torproject.org] (if you run Debian or Ubuntu)
    https://www.torproject.org/pro... [torproject.org] (more generic instructions)

    More information in this email the Tor project sent out last year, including how to make an unpublished bridge that's harder to censor:
    https://lists.torproject.org/p... [torproject.org]

  • by gtall (79522) on Sunday March 23, 2014 @06:18PM (#46559577)

    King Abdullah of Jordan had this to say of Erdogan: “Erdoan once said that democracy, for him, is a bus ride,” King Abdullah said. “‘Once I get to my stop, I’m getting off,’ [Erdoan said].”

    The King saw little difference between Erdogan and Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood and considered Erdogan to be a softer version of Morsi. Of Morsi, he said Morsi had no depth. Now it appears Erdogan has little depth as well, attempting to ban Twitter will only advertise it for Turks.

    Right now, Erdogan is favored to win the next election, but how will the Turks feel in a few years when they realized they got off the democracy bus along with Erdogan.

    • by MightyYar (622222) on Sunday March 23, 2014 @06:35PM (#46559673)

      but how will the Turks feel in a few years when they realized they got off the democracy bus along with Erdogan.

      Sadly, they will elect him as the one who most represents their view of the world. It just shows how poorly democracy works when you have widespread ignorance. The same thing happens in the US, though we fell into a two-party system that forces people to get under the same tent.

      RICH PEOPLE: Free, compulsory, quality education for the masses is for YOU, not them. Please stop fighting it. Thank you.

      • Since the elections come up in less than a week from now, I'm cooking up my popcorn.
        • by zymano (581466)

          You gonna cry?

          • You gonna cry?

            If freedom of the internet loses another notch, yes, I might shed a tear over that, it would "suck". I've cried over less.

            He's trying to get re-elected. Maybe blocking free speech is a tactic that will win it for him in his country, I don't know, hence the curiosity and the popcorn popping. I'm curious to see if his 'strategy' works out for him or not.

      • by Luckyo (1726890)

        You appear to be under a naive misunderstanding that ignorant masses are something that elite does not want.

        This opinion is in a direct conflict with all known human history.

        • by MightyYar (622222)

          I'm suggesting that the elite are short-term thinkers and perhaps poor students of history. Thus my all-caps plea to rich people.

      • by zymano (581466)

        You seem really worried. Tell us why? Most Americans could give a shit.

      • by Darinbob (1142669)

        Erdogan's popularity is mostly due to a push back against previous governments and the tight military control of the governments, which have been repressing religious citizens and minorities. When you shake up the system seeking to reform a broken system there are a couple of results; you either get a reformer, or you get someone seeking power.

        • by MightyYar (622222)

          I certainly wouldn't want to be in charge there. The past governments had a really tough task... it can't be easy to straddle the line between forcing a secular government on people and repressing them. Erdogan is no better for applying Islamic rules about speech to the entire society, even if it is what the masses demand. People forget that US "democracy" included only male landowners for the most part until much later on. It's a tough mentality to get established.

  • Conflicted (Score:5, Funny)

    by TranquilVoid (2444228) on Sunday March 23, 2014 @08:23PM (#46560377)

    Honestly not sure what to think of the guy. On the one hand he's suppressing free speech, but on the other he's blocking Twitter.

  • 199.16.156.38 and 199.16.156.230 are also showing up as IP addresses for twitter.com. So that could help someone maybe (hint: c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts)
  • by Opportunist (166417) on Sunday March 23, 2014 @10:08PM (#46560895)

    Still trying to silence the "rumors" (my lawyer said I should call them rumors instead of what I really think of them) concerning his corruption, embezzlement and money laundering with ancient means of the average tinpot dictator?

    Well, when you're backwards oriented and stuck in the past, new media are probably not going to be your forte.

  • The whole population quickly learned hownto use VPNs and DNS changes. I am posting on ./ from my kettle right now, it is easy folks.
  • Why,

    the connection is encrypted, the url identifies a certain cryptographic key specifically(now anonymous onion routing sounds phoney yeah?)

    And TOR is extremly hard to censor (except for Chuck Norris and North Korea.)

    Also slashdot should go TOR(.onion)

  • I can't resist. Sorry. It's a 15 year anniversary for me. So don't mod me to harshly.

    Bomb them. I thought you guys(American gov and their European puppet states) go bombing oppressive governments(bringing democracy).. or at LEAST sanction them into economical submission. Make couple of thousands die of hunger, bomb couple of bridges, a hospital.. a school all with depleted uranium.

    Oh yeah... silly me.

  • Isn't Turkey a member of the EU? How can one man act as a dictator and order the shutting down of political opposition voices? Or in this case, their "printing press"?

    • by Darinbob (1142669)

      You're confusing EU with Eurovision.
      However on that note I do think that Eurovision countries do have strict policies towards open Twitter access.

  • And how this is all their fault? Don't worry, he will. He always does.

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