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White House Responds To Net Neutrality Petition 245

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bostonidealist writes "The White House has officially responded to a We The People petition created on January 15, 2014, which urged the President to 'direct the FCC to classify ISPs as "common carriers"' after the D.C. U.S. Court of Appeals 'struck down the Federal Communications Commission's open internet rules.' The White House statement says, 'absent net neutrality, the Internet could turn into a high-priced private toll road that would be inaccessible to the next generation of visionaries,' but notes, 'The FCC is an independent agency. Chairman Wheeler has publicly pledged to use the full authority granted by Congress to maintain a robust, free and open Internet — a principle that this White House vigorously supports.'"
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White House Responds To Net Neutrality Petition

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  • -nch? Now there are indeed laws by which the FCC must operate. There is for example a law or are laws that define what a common carrier is. So how about hurling metric boatloads of attorneys, engineers, sociologists or what have you, at the FCC, to convince them that ISPs are really common carriers? At one time an ISP was arguably an information provider, say when they all provided Usenet feeds. But it has been more than ten years since I've been able to get a feed from any ISP. I don't even get my em
    • Correct. It is an independent regulatory agency.

      "So how about hurling metric boatloads of attorneys, engineers, sociologists or what have you, at the FCC, to convince them that ISPs are really common carriers?"
      How about that? have you sent them a letter? have you contact local experts to get them to send a letter? organize anything?

      Or do you just complain until someone else does all the work?
      And yes, logically they are common carriers.

  • by WCMI92 (592436) on Tuesday February 18, 2014 @08:35PM (#46281501) Homepage

    The FCC is no more "independent" than the IRS.

    Note the recent scheme the FCC was going to try, putting bureaucrats in the newsrooms of broadcasters to "study" the reporting of news. Which got quickly withdrawn soon as word got out.

    That would have been putting a Regime "political officer" into newsrooms to threaten the LICENSES of broadcasters who don't "praise and worship" Pharaoh.

    • The FCC is no more "independent" than the IRS.

      Note the recent scheme the FCC was going to try, putting bureaucrats in the newsrooms of broadcasters to "study" the reporting of news. Which got quickly withdrawn soon as word got out.

      Hey, that's the CIA's job!

  • Translation... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by stox (131684) on Tuesday February 18, 2014 @08:41PM (#46281549) Homepage

    Comcast sent us more campaign donations than you did.

  • by nurb432 (527695) on Tuesday February 18, 2014 @09:16PM (#46281785) Homepage Journal

    "uh, how much money do you have to contribute for us to listen to you?"

    That is ALL they care about. ( well, that and destroying the country as fast as possible before time runs out )

  • I've lost count the number of times this administration has promised that the "intent" of what they want is vastly different than the law they just passed. I have double plus confidence in the future admins carrying the torch of the spirit of these laws.
    • by rts008 (812749)

      Not just this administration, it has been happening quite awhile now.

      Last administration gave us the 'war on terror', the PATRIOT Act(with the DHS and TSA), and two wars that have cost us over a trillion US dollars; the list goes back a ways, and is a long list of tomfoolery.

      The 'playlist for the dance' will remain the same as long as there are effectively only two parties to choose from at voting time.

      It is currently close to impossible for any candidate to get support enough to pose a threat to the Democr

      • by clonehappy (655530) on Tuesday February 18, 2014 @11:54PM (#46282735)

        The 'playlist for the dance' will remain the same as long as there are effectively only two parties to choose from at voting time.

        And this is why you should support every Tea Party candidate that you can. Now, wait, hear me out. You may not agree with their politics, but you have to admit they're really stirring people up, both on the left and the right. Now, I know, what you're going to say: "They'll ruin our entire system, set the rights of $GROUP back 100 years, make the middle class poor, make the rich richer, and leave us all out to hang and dry!"

        And you'd probably be right. And I support that. Yes, I support my quality of life dropping, at least temporarily, if it means we can reboot this entire thing and start over again. There are millions of sane, level-headed liberal folks out there who realize the mess of shit we're in. Just as there are millions of sane, level-headed conservatives out there who realize the same. You see, the average, middle class working person, which whether we admit it on Slashdot or not, most of us are, aren't in support of socialism, no more than we are in support of capitalism. It's a balance. It's not black and white, we're for a decent world to live in. One we can hand down to the next generation and say "See, we tried not to fuck it up so bad, made a few things better, made a few things worse. Give it a shot and see how you do."

        But we need to get back to basics. We need a government that builds and maintains infrastructure. Roads, schools, sanitation, water, energy systems. At least at the basic level. We can still have toll roads, we can still have private schools, for those who want them. But government needs to get out of the business of micromanaging people's lives. Now, why should you support the Tea Party? Because if you're so sure they're going to fuck everything up beyond recognition, bring the whole system crashing down to the ground, LET THEM! Then you can rebuild it with your input as you see fit.

        As it stands, it's the only real option we have left. No one wants violence or any of that kind of thing here in America. Call it exceptionalism, call it whatever denigrating term you want, I think we're above it. We're not stupid enough to end up shedding the blood of our own people, are we? Over such bullshit as Obamacare, or welfare, or abortion? We can agree to disagree. We can find a compromise that works for everyone, if we stop letting the power structure call all the shots and control every debate with the black and white all or nothing rhetoric. We're not all so different. Not as different as you'd think we are if you watch cable news or read every political blog on the web. We really can fucking get along without secession or violence or this radical idea or that radical idea. But we need to reboot, and the only way to do that is by electing someone who's not a D or an R.

        Put the partisan, emotionally charged rhetoric down just long enough to get our country (world?) back. Then we can get right on back to debating about minutia and Justin Bieber. But the hole in the ship isn't getting any smaller, and the guys with the blue and red hammers and nails are only using them to beat us about the head. We can get back to that once we use them to fix the hole and pump out the water. Anyone but the incumbent. That's my vote.

        • by Kjella (173770)

          If you tear down all the power structures, it's not like you'd have freedom. Tear it down to indivudals and those indivuals wlll immediately start to form gangs, because one man is weak. You mess with one gang member, you mess with the whole gang. Then you need to form some form of mututal defense which will become a power structure of its own and from there it will simply escalate until you have countries with nukes to defend themselves against other countries with nukes. And with every power system comes

  • ...saying something they had already put on the record. He has a great issue that the public is passionate about but Obama folds every hand he is dealt.

  • by whistlingtony (691548) on Wednesday February 19, 2014 @12:35AM (#46282901)

    This thread is going to be full of whining. Lots of blame. Lots of arguing. Lots of links to sources.... but no action.

    Wolf-PAC.com. Go. sign up. DO SOMETHING. I drove an hour today to get to my state capitol, visited my state rep, and asked him to sponsor legislation to call for an article V convention to FIX the problem. The problem isn't and R or a D next to someone's name. It's that money buys influence. It's that our reps are elected almost completely based on who raises the most money. And that isn't their fault. It's YOURS.

    You vote based on partisan hackery and don't bother to educate yourselves. You're all fired up to argue on the internet, but can't be bother to call your damn rep and tell them what's on your mind. And to boot, you vote based on made up knee jerk reactions. They're playing you like a fiddle. Ok, mostly the Right here, I really do have to show my bias. :D Really, a Muslim? A secret Muslim? F'ing stupid... but the laziness crosses party lines.

    Fix your brain, get off your ass, and go FIX IT. Stop whining on the internet. Stop arguing uselessly with random strangers on the internet. It wasn't even that hard to call my rep, get a meeting, and start working on a solution.

    Sorry, I'm a little frustrated by all the stupid arguing. Also, the stupidity. Go. wolf-pac.com. Sign up. Work with the people in your state (many of whom are in the OTHER party, and you'll hang out with them and discover they're actually quite intelligent and put a lot of thought into their beliefs).

  • But let's better wait 'til their masters have spoken before we assume that this statement stands.

  • You'll get farther writing your congressmen.

  • I love how all the Slashdot Libertarians who are all about Internet Corporate Freedom (that is, against any laws the actually protect consumers from selective throttling and other anti-neutrality bullshit) are suddenly in favor of net neutrality now that the Obama administration has said that they're not going to do anything about it.

    • by ganjadude (952775)
      I dont remember any libertarians wanting the cable to be considered anything other than dumb pipes to begin with. I love how people on slashdot love to tell others what they believe before they get a chance to say anything about it....
  • Well, not all of you, but definitely those of you who are simple minded enough to become caught up in party politics as though it makes a difference in the outcome of anything decided in Washington.

    And you poor sad bastards who actually believe that the whitehouse petitions are anything more than pacifiers to quiet your whining, did you actually believe that any substantive changes would come about as a result of you signing a petition? Seriously? Change doesn't happen in Washington unless someone in the go

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