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E-Mail Hack Exposes Bush Family Pictures, Correspondence 230

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from the dubya-the-painter dept.
New submitter rHBa sends this article about another high-profile email account breach: "The apparent hack of several e-mail accounts has exposed personal photos and sensitive correspondence from members of the Bush family, including both former U.S. presidents. The posted photos and e-mails contain a watermark with the hacker's online alias, 'Guccifer.' ... Included in the hacked material is a confidential October 2012 list of home addresses, cell phone numbers, and e-mails for dozens of Bush family members, including both former presidents, their siblings, and their children. ... Correspondence obtained by the hacker indicates that at least six separate e-mail accounts have been compromised, including the AOL account of Dorothy Bush Koch, daughter of George H.W. Bush and sister of George W. Bush. Other breached accounts belong to Willard Heminway, 79, an old friend of the 41st president who lives in Greenwich, Connecticut; CBS sportscaster Jim Nantz, a longtime Bush family friend; former first lady Barbara Bush’s brother; and George H.W. Bush’s sister-in-law. "
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E-Mail Hack Exposes Bush Family Pictures, Correspondence

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  • *shiver* (Score:2, Funny)

    by koan (80826)

    G "dubya" Bush's shower self portrait.

  • by Dancindan84 (1056246) on Friday February 08, 2013 @04:12PM (#42836471)

    The kid gloves are off. They're handing out actual jail time [wired.com] for people hacking phones/email for nude pics of Scarlett Johansson. If they find him/her, this dude's going to end up in gitmo over some addresses and phone numbers.

    • by Sir or Madman (2818071) on Friday February 08, 2013 @04:17PM (#42836551)

      If you enter my house at take my photo album, that's theft regardless of whether the door was locked or unlocked. How is this any different? There is a reasonable expectation to privacy for an email account.

      • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 08, 2013 @04:20PM (#42836589)

        Not according to the gubmint. According to them, after 180 days it is abandoned and they can search it for any reason without a warrant.

      • I'm not opposed to the fact that the kid gloves are off if you got that impression from the "I hope this guy's good..." part. Just pointing out that if people are getting 10 years of hard time for nude pics, hacking email accounts involving two presidents is not going to go well for him if he's caught.

      • by Gripp (1969738) on Friday February 08, 2013 @05:00PM (#42837105)
        What is it If I enter your house and take photo's of your photos? On a quick look in florida, unless you break something (vandalism) or the owners are home it would be classified as 810.08 Trespass in structure or conveyance which is a 2nd degree misdemeanor, which has a prison term of not greater than 60 days. So based on your conclusion he should be looking at about the same. Not the 10 years the OP presented.
        • by Quila (201335)

          Unless the door was wide open, it's breaking and entering. Even the force needed to open a door is considered the "breaking" part -- you used force to illegally enter a residence. If it can be shown you did so with intent to commit a crime, then that is burglary. If you did this for a dozen different residences (as a dozen different email accounts) then the individual charges pile up.

          • "Unless the door was wide open"

            What does the statute define as "wide"? Do we need a ruler, or perhaps a yardstick, or can we measure it with a micrometer?

            • by Quila (201335)

              If you had to move the door a millimeter in order to enter, it's breaking and entering.

              • Again, from what statute do you derive this highly questionable claim? Also, how, pray tell, would they ever prove it?
        • by Isaac-1 (233099)

          This depends on which state you live in

      • by rtb61 (674572)

        It's called risk of escalation and implied direct physical threat. There is a hug difference between guessing some ones password and accessing their email account and entering some ones home with the direct threat of personal confrontation. Now moron, let me break it to you simply, idiot statements like yours do no ramp up the penalty for guessing some ones password the reduce the penalty for something like home invasion, so you and those idiot modders think before you spread stuff that has real negative c

      • by isorox (205688)

        If you enter my house at take my photo album, that's theft regardless of whether the door was locked or unlocked. How is this any different? There is a reasonable expectation to privacy for an email account.

        If I walk into your house, take a picture of your photo album, but leave you with it, it's not theft. It may not even be breaking and entering if your door's open. It could be copyright infringement I guess.

    • The drones are already in search mode.
      • ever since I realized that's the inevitable conclusion of that mule thing I can't stop imagining one of those in "search mode" chasing somebody down. That is some scary shit.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Only if the victim is famous. Good luck getting any help from the legal system if *your* account gets hacked. Back to work, plebe!

    • by Hatta (162192) on Friday February 08, 2013 @04:23PM (#42836625) Journal

      I hope this guy is not good, he deserves to be caught. As much as I despise the Bush administrations, they are out of power, and this just looks like personal correspondence. If evidence of wrongdoing is uncovered, this might be justified. But until then, this is just juvenile.

      • Yeah, someone else seemed to think I was on this guy's side too. I'm not. I suppose I should have worded it, "I hope for this guy's sake that he's good..." or something. I'm fully supportive of something like this earning you a trip to PMITA prison.

      • by DaHat (247651)

        If evidence of wrongdoing is uncovered, this might be justified.

        By that logic... the hack is justified from the beginning because without opening up these emails... we would have no way to know if there is any wrongdoing.

        No... this is wrong. Period.

        • by tnk1 (899206)

          Correct. After all, should the police be able to go on fishing expeditions? I hope not, because there are so many laws on the books, it has been suggested that we're all breaking a few obscure federal laws on a daily basis without even realizing it.

          • by DaHat (247651)

            Why limit it to just the police? Any anonymous hacker also should have this power... or so say those who are ok with this hack.

        • by geoskd (321194)

          If evidence of wrongdoing is uncovered, this might be justified.

          By that logic... the hack is justified from the beginning because without opening up these emails... we would have no way to know if there is any wrongdoing.

          No... this is wrong. Period.

          No, it really isn't wrong. The reason is simple. Bush Jr went to great pains to erode our constitutional protections, and successfully rendered our privacy moot. Thanks to Bush, the federal government can search my e-mail without a warrant . If the government has this right by Bush's admission, we the people should have that right. To my mind that makes Bush's e-mail fair game for public consumption. Any way you slice it, GW had this coming, and I can only hope that there is something in there that in som

          • by DaHat (247651)

            I always enjoy it when liberals view history as only a very narrow window...

            Bush Jr went to great pains to erode our constitutional protections, and successfully rendered our privacy moot.

            And yet... virtually every-thing Bush can be pointed to/blamed for can be said doubly so about the current occupant of the office who has doubled down on many a policy.

            "Nyeh! Bush tortured people!"

            Obama feels he has the right to murder american citizens.

            "Nyeh! Bush invaded Iraq based on a lie!"

            While Bush had legal authorit

            • by geoskd (321194)

              I'm trying to sort out your twisted logic, but all I keep getting is a strange comparison between Obama and Bush, as if those were the only two presidents we have ever had. Both of them suck. At times I have a hard time telling where a Bush policy starts and an Obama policy ends. They are both ineffective partisan asshats who should never have been allowed to run anything. It should be noted that neither one of them has a scrap of integrity. The same can be said of pretty much every president in the last th

            • They both deserve to be tried for war crimes at the very least.

              Why do supporters of a political party always respond to criticism by saying the other guys are just as bad? Do they like the race to the bottom we're seeing in politics?

      • by X0563511 (793323)

        they are out of power

        Bwahahaha!

        Not while they have money and ties to Oil.

    • by OffTheLip (636691)
      Good might not help. The NSA just needs to deep search their archives.
    • by gstoddart (321705) on Friday February 08, 2013 @04:30PM (#42836701) Homepage

      And since this involves 2 former presidents and their families, you can bet it will be the secret service and other high profile agencies looking into this.

      He'd better be damned good to avoid the full wrath of the agencies which are going to be all over this.

      They might even take time out of enforcing copyright for this. ;-)

      • Tinfoil hat time .. maybe this is a false flag, to create a premise to pass draconian new Internet surveillance laws. Why such mundane pics only?
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      The kid gloves are off. They're handing out actual jail time [wired.com] for people hacking phones/email for nude pics of Scarlett Johansson. If they find him/her, this dude's going to end up in gitmo over some addresses and phone numbers.

      Could be worse. He could have shared a song or movie. Ever the serial rapist/murderers get chills when you tell them you're in for that.

    • by DarkOx (621550)

      Yes and as former presidents keep their Secret Service detail for I think a decade this guy *is* going to be found and probably prosecuted such that he will wish he'd just been strung up by the balls.

      • by psm321 (450181)

        It's back up to lifetime protection as of a few months ago.

      • by sycodon (149926)

        Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Holder ignores it even after they have the little shit in custody.

    • The kid gloves are off. They're handing out actual jail time [wired.com] for people hacking phones/email for nude pics of Scarlett Johansson. If they find him/her, this dude's going to end up in gitmo over some addresses and phone numbers.

      Are you sure we are on the same page?

      I thought there was a kickstarter for nude pictures of certain celebrities?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 08, 2013 @04:18PM (#42836561)

    Just don't try the same trick with Obama. He has no problem drone bombing US citizens.

    • by 32771 (906153)

      Man, 'drone bombing' is the new meme, there is already 'drone zone' but done bombing comes right after WMD.

      • Except that unlike the mythical WMD's, 'drone bombing' is all too real [businessinsider.com], e.g.

        ""Did we just kill a kid?"
        "Yeah, I guess that was a kid," the pilot replied.
        "Was that a kid?" they wrote into a chat window on the monitor.
        Then, someone they didn't know answered, someone sitting in a military command center somewhere in the world who had observed their attack. "No. That was a dog," the person wrote.
        They reviewed the scene on video. A dog on two legs?"

  • This isn't going to end well for the "hacker".

  • by TVmisGuided (151197) <`moc.liamg' `ta' `pmuj.nala'> on Friday February 08, 2013 @04:34PM (#42836773) Homepage
    There's an object lesson here: there's no such thing as privacy on the Internet.
    • by Isaac-1 (233099)

      No, I think the object lesson will be what happens to this guy when he gets caught

      • by tnk1 (899206)

        The object lesson is that people are too stupid to realize what is really in store for them until it is too late.

        The Bush family gets owned, and the hacker becomes the new girlfriend of Enrico the Drug Dealer in the Federal Pen when he's caught. No one is going to be winning here, except the media.

  • I can't help but wonder what's in these pics, our company blocks the link for "adult themes."
  • AOL? No wonder Republicans are losing the technology war to Dems...
    • by H0p313ss (811249)

      AOL? No wonder Republicans are losing the technology war to Dems...

      I don't think the Republicans have figured out that there is a technology war yet.

  • Please please tell me the shoe really did find its target!

  • They're now private citizens, and deserve some regard for their personal privacy. IMHO, they should be left alone and this guy is a dick.

    • Really - even if they were still in office, this is a dick move. Private emails are private emails. I care less about the hacking than the release, to be honest. If there's some actual funny business (like using personal email to avoid public disclosure statutes), then maybe the relevant text, but just releasing a bunch of personal, day to day emails (and all of the petty squabbling that everyone does) is unnecessary. I don't care what names they called each other or what they said "in private" about anyone

      • Sometimes I feel people deserve to have their rights violated. Just like a serial rapist deserves to be raped in prison, a serial violator of people's privacy deserves to have his privacy violated. Sure it might not be legal, so the perpetrators deserve to get a slap on the wrist. But let's not kid ourselves, the 'victims' deserved it.

        • by Rockoon (1252108)
          Note to FBI annd SS: The above poster should be suspect #1

          Lets not kid ourselves, he is guilty of something so let the investigation commence.
  • I can almost hear the armada of drones heading to Anonymous's house.

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