New Jersey Mayor and Son Arrested For Nuking Recall Website 180
phaedrus5001 writes "The mayor of West New York, New Jersey was arrested by the FBI after he and his son illegally took down a website that was calling for the recall of mayor Felix Roque (the site is currently down).
From the article: 'According to the account of FBI Special Agent Ignace Ertilus, Felix and Joseph Roque took a keen interest in the recall site as early as February. In an attempt to learn the identity of the person behind the site, the younger Roque set up an e-mail account under a fictitious name and contacted an address listed on the website. He offered some "very good leads" if the person would agree to meet him. When the requests were repeatedly rebuffed, Joseph Rogue allegedly tried another route. He pointed his browser to Google and typed the search strings "hacking a Go Daddy Site," "recallroque log-in," and "html hacking tutorial."'"
Should have used Duck Duck Go (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Should have used Duck Duck Go (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Should have used Duck Duck Go (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:Should have used Duck Duck Go (Score:4, Insightful)
Or just use TOR. And don't say "tor can be compromised". That's only true if they are already monitoring you.
...unless you happen to pass through an FBI-run exit node.
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Your traffic will usually give you away. For example, leaving your mail, IM, or other still things with identifiers, while connected to Tor can route your traffic over it.
I once figured out who was on an open wifi, because they had some silly Windows applet running that sent their email address as their ID. They probably never thought twice about it, or the fact that they had connected to someone's wifi that was left open (someone else told them it was "easier" that way).
Re:Should have used Duck Duck Go (Score:4, Insightful)
Remind me again why he was lambasted for that?
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Because these days the law is pretty much nothing more than someone with a lot of money and power says it is. Especially when one is Google. What do you think would happen if Schmidt said instead loudly and publicly, "No, Federal Government, we're not giving you a god damned thing without a proper warrant, etc....oh, and if you try to force us, well....we just might leave the country or seriously degrade our services here for you and your cronies, in the name of Freedom, Liberty, etc." ?
Do you really think
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Yes.
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Because these days the law is pretty much nothing more than someone with a lot of money and power says it is.
By "these days" you mean: for the last 6000 years?
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Well, it was *SUPPOSED* to be different in America. Or at least according to some crusty old documents...
That didn't last very long, not even a decade. The Sedition Act was the first major blow, coming when the Constitution was barely a decade old. Egregious examples culled from Wikipedia:
"Luther Baldwin, a private citizen, was indicted for a comment he made during a visit by President Adams to Newark, New Jersey. The President was greeted by a crowd and by a committee that saluted him by firing a cannon. A bystander said, "There goes the President and they are firing at his ass." Baldwin replied that he did n
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we're not giving you a god damned thing without a proper warrant
Uhhhh..... they already do that. Don't they?
Don't requests for information need a warrant?
Oh... shit. No they don't. At least their FAQ doesn't say it does.
Damnit Google! If it's part of a criminal investigation they should be able to get a warrant. They should HAVE to get a warrant.
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Yehs, that's why someone with money and power was just arrested.
I know what would have happened, the feds would go get a warrant. assuming they didn't have one.
I know in your world of black helicopters, Illuminati, and reptile overlords something bad would happen. Fortunately most of us play in the real world.
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Tell that to Joseph Nacchio [wikipedia.org].
Nah, stick with the classics. (Score:2)
It's traditional to use the PC on your dickweed boss or cow-orker's desk.
My boss and colleagues are excellent, so I would have to use the head of HR's computer.
Luckily there's a building master key in the computer room's DR box.
I doubt that would fool anyone. (Score:2)
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Why not just use a live CD or a bootable flash drive OS?
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Heck no, There's a whole host of new PC's hitting the market for ~$50 (just mentioned one right here on Slashdot yesterday by APC.) Heck, but 10 and throw a party. Hackers delight! Just make sure you, order it anonymously and have it delivered someplace that can't be traced back to you. Helps if you aren't a puter pro too.
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I'm sorry, where did you find that out? its not in the article, or any other article I could find.
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All major browsers include porn mode now, but judging by this guy's uber hacking skillz he is probably still running IE6.
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Doing:
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You left out the bit about how lefties are all godless blasphemers who want to destroy the natural order of the world by allowing women to go around with their heads uncovered or even drive cars.
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You left out the bit about how lefties are all godless blasphemers who want to destroy the natural order of the world by allowing women to go around with their heads uncovered or even drive cars.
Well, the lefties do seem to get awfully upset whenever anyone criticizes the biggest-by-far group of people who believe those things. The word "Islamophobia" comes to mind for some reason.
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How about the even trickier blue dogs are socialist progressive liberals regardless of how neocon they actually are. Fox not-News kind of wildly exaggerated the bias, no one is blind to the extremely exaggerated bias not even the far right, they think it is OK because of the rest of the media is against them. Hold on mass media is meant to be really good a fooling people, they are professional advertisers, reality TV kings, skilled at making celebrities out of narcissistic arse holes. Yet they so fail in h
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Come on guys, if we don't cut out the bad apples we'll be as bad as the republicans. If we support a culture where we look after our own it'll just fester those rotten apples.
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You see anyone defending this jack-ass?
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Well remember. We should not put his party affiliation because after all it was just him and his son against a vast right wing conspiracy to destroy an innocent democrat.
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huh?
Did I miss the kool-aid? What the fuck are you talking about?
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huh? Did I miss the kool-aid?
No, you missed the WOOOOSH, Dr. Cooper.
Re:Party afiliation not important (Score:5, Insightful)
Democrats attack their own when they do stupid shit like this. Republicans attack their own when they do something as unbelievable as suggesting that, hey, maybe gay marriage won't destroy the nation, or that maybe taxing the people who have all the money isn't socialism.
--Jeremy
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What kool aid? The pubs have done that many, many times. Huntsman was all but castrated for saying the world is older the 6000 years.
There is a long line of people being destroyed by the pub party for not goose stepping to the party line.
This isn't opinion. It's a sad, sad fact.
I'm not sure how you're links apply to the quote.
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There is an individual who is most likely at fault. Either the person who wrote the article, or the editor. Not every single democrat out there.
This not some big conspiracy, although to be fair when he campaigned he also did not reveal his party affiliation and ran as a conservative, but on the democratic ticket.
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I looked him up expecting to see he was an R and was quite surprised. But you can rest assured if he was a proper GOP guy, his mug would show up on Fox with a big, fat D behind it. Whoops, no idea how that happened.
Fox News is awful! If they can do that in your imagination, think about what they can do in real life!
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Why choose... I say he was Incompalicious!!!
Why the surprise? (Score:2, Insightful)
I looked him up expecting to see he was an R and was quite surprised
That doesn't make any sense.
If you look over the last few years, consistently it's been Democrats doing things like stuffing freezers full of cash, sexting women inappropriately, sending guns to Mexican drug lords.
It's been liberal Occupy protestors pillaging SF, setting fire to Oakland, pooping on cars.
So when you hear about politicians caught in some illegal act, recent history teaches us it's really far likely to be Democrats, who for ye
Re:Why the surprise? (Score:5, Informative)
Bullshit. Just off the top of my head, there was David Vitter, who got caught with prostitutes, and Mark Sanford, the guy who went "hiking" with his not-wife from Argentina. Both definitely worse than sexting women who were willing participants (Weiner's "crime"). And yet neither was run out of office. Why? Because Republicans don't give a shit about morals when it would put them at a disadvantage.
Of course, if you get all your news from Fox and similar propaganda outlets, you'd be likely to believe that only Democrats get caught in scandals. Maybe you should step away from the bullshit spewers before you become one of them. That is, if it's not already too late.
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Exactly. The point is both parties are an evil duopoly that are allowed to fester with decisions like Citizen's United. A politician these days spends many more hours raising funds than they spend doing their Constitutionally mandated job. I know many that have taken the attitude of "if I never heard of you you get my vote!" that is why here
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Forgot something (Score:2)
Quick, someone call the cops! (Score:5, Funny)
He's going to hack into our div tags!
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shit! that's where I keep all my spans!
They should have gone ater terrorists' websites (Score:2)
Genius! (Score:5, Funny)
Googling for "recallroque log-in" is just pure genius. Why hack if google will just point you straight to the credentials you need!
Actually... (Score:5, Interesting)
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That how I get the non public face email account to CEOs.
It's funny when you send an email to a CEO, then get a call from the VP to take care of the issue. Lat time I did it, the issue was solved in a day, and they had to change global websites.
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That's ... somewhat disturbing, but not all that surprising.
I did see a result that caught my attention as a "how the fuck have they not secured their site?!?", and did a bit more digging:
This document is confidential site:corp.bankofamerica.com [google.com]
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0 ?
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....and even more surprised how many agents turn up at the door tomorrow.
this is the post HeckRuler was responding to. your reading glasses are not on tight enough, or your filter isn't low enough.
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Should've googled for "how to become an evil uber hacker".
That's all? (Score:4, Interesting)
You'd think the threats and other stuff would kick on a few other charges than those. ianal but I bet even I could find at least a half dozen additional things to nail them with.
I wonder if they'll let him keep his job. (Politics are bizarre.)
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OTOH, this will probably give the recall idea some new legs.
Meme warning (Score:5, Funny)
Great. Now every website hacking attempt would be called "going rogue". All "roguelike" discussions will be censored and prosecuted. And God help you if you are found in possession of a certain amulet...
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Is this anything like the game of Rouge, where you've been miniaturized and have to descend the layers of a woman's handbag? Watch out for things wrapped in tissue, they're deadly.
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Just call it rouge-like instead.
good thing (Score:3)
the web site won't be needed anymore.... that town will get their new mayor one way or another (recall or resignation)
the best part about this story though is that this idiot got into office on a recall election that ousted the town's previous mayor.
Re:good thing (Score:5, Funny)
1. Set up a honeypot with a web front that calls for the recall of a politician you don't like
2. Wait for it to be attacked by that politician
3. Tell the FBI
4. Lulz!
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More importantly...Don't phone "Victim 1" after. (Score:5, Insightful)
This article indicates that Roque the Younger called "Victim 1" to 'say that the page had been taken down by “high government officials and that everyone would pay for getting involved against Mayor Roque.” '
Now that is poor hacking skills!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76723.html [politico.com]
Hacking is an Art (Score:3)
FBI Special Agent Ignace Ertilus (Score:2)
Wow, that must be in the top three most awesome real person names ever.
I'd buy the comics based on the name alone!
I bet he fights arcane AIs with nothing but his trusty cyberspace deck and deep knowledge of neurolinguistics.
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I would disagree.
http://www.cracked.com/article_14982_the-9-manliest-names-in-world.html [cracked.com]
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I once interviewed a retiring Navy officer to become my boss. His name (I am not making this up):Captain Jack Hammer.
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Goes right along with my vote for the best job title -- "Principal Thermal Engineer".
Name that Party! (Score:2)
It's time to play the classic game of: Name that Party [google.com].
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Well, except ALL men having power should not be trusted.
Even Republicans.
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1) The guy is mayor of a town of 1 square mile. There are more people in most universities than in this guy's town. You really think any party big-wigs even know he exists?
2) He got his seat by running as an independent against a Democrat, so if you're obsessed with labels, he'd be a left-leaning independent.
3) Based on Wikipedia, he's buddy-buddy with Chris Christie, so he's not even that left-leaning (note: Christie probably doesn't give two shits about this bush league yokel)
Stop obsessing over party a
Security? (Score:5, Interesting)
Checked GoDaddy whois, and the domain was registered using their Domains by Proxy service to hide the registrant. This seems to imply that Domains By Proxy was hacked / socially engineered in order to compromise the account. Worse, it appears that this was accomplished by someone with little to no computer or hacking experience.
The article does not go into detail about how the hack was actually accomplished, other than mentioning it was via a reset email. I am curious what this actually means for the security of domain names registered on GoDaddy using Domains By Proxy. Are they truly that easy to hack?
I tend to register all of my domains using the proxy service simply to avoid spam in my inbox.
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Re:So easy to get search terms from google (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:So easy to get search terms from google (Score:5, Insightful)
Where do you think the term "warrantles searches" came from? Judge Napolitano can't stop talking about them.
The U.S.A.P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act gave the FBI the power to write their own permission to enter a premise, or demand data, without a judge issued warrant. CISPA will make it even easier. No need for paperwork at all.
Re:So easy to get search terms from google (Score:5, Funny)
The U.S.A.P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act
You know, I always wondered why they named a key piece of legislation "U Sap at Riot".
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That's the actual name of the Act
Dipshit
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... and yet he failed to do it with F.B.I. or C.I.S.P.A.
Dipshit.
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No. That is the actual name of the act in abbreviated form. U.S.A.P.A.T.R.I.O.T. == Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism. Penn&Teller did a whole episode about it on their Bullshit program.
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('< ~Hello, beautiful!
Wakka wakka!
Minor? (Score:5, Insightful)
Suppression of free political speech and intimidation by an elected official is a "minor case"? If so, it shouldn't be.
That said, I have to wonder if this wasn't a corruption investigation by the FBI in the first place, though you'd think if it was, they'd jump at the opportunity to "meet".
Re:So easy to get search terms from google (Score:5, Insightful)
Let's see...
A politician who performs an obviously illegal act in full violation of the First Amendment of the US Constitution - check.
A politician who tries nuking a website/server that is parked somewhere across state lines - check.
Yep. I can see a good warrant coming off of this one. And given the interstate angle, it's not odd at all.
Re:from whom? (Score:3)
You can ask google to not save your searches.
You can recover searches from a computer if you have physical access to the computer as long as the person didn't do any wipes.
At no point in the story does it say where the information about searches was recovered from. So yes, it is possible that the authorities contacted google and the got the information, but more likely they just got it off the computer.
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Not only will Google allow you to not have your searches saved. Google will actually show you all of the search info they have on you and allow you to individually delete things you want gone.
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The FBI tends to get a little touchy about things like election fraud.
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I thought the TSA was the one that got all touchy!
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Why are you implying they got them from Google? Does it say they got them from Google? All they need to do is view the search history from his personal computer to find out what sort of searches he has been making on google or any other site.
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> Nuking from orbit, isn't that a bit extreme?
It's the only way to be sure.
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They messed up the link when it was first posted. It's fixed now.
Geez... slashdot's editors screw up once in 15 years and you're all over it. Cut them some slack. Do you expect them to get the summary perfect every time?
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Very Funny.
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It's not in the story, so why would it be in the teaser of the story?
Oh wait, is logic and reason messing up your little brain?
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