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Pirate Party's North American Debut 178

Posted by samzenpus
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adonoman writes "A 25-year-old Winnipeg businessman is the first Pirate Party of Canada candidate to run for federal election. At the same time, the US and UK pirate parties have put out an open letter to Anonymous requesting that they cease Operation Payback's DDOS attacks and focus on taking a legal route to fix intellectual property law."
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Pirate Party's North American Debut

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  • by BadAnalogyGuy (945258) <BadAnalogyGuy@gmail.com> on Wednesday November 24, 2010 @05:26PM (#34337446)

    Here in America, we have politicians that tell us to grin and bear the gloved hand of tyranny up our metaphorical rectums. This past week has been a tumultuous time for our country with millions upon millions angry, demanding the end to the usurpation of our human rights. These calls have fallen on deaf ears.

    Canada, the great untamed frontier, still seems to have politicians who put people over policy. What a topsy-turvy world we live in that we Americans finally look northward for leadership!

    Maybe it's time we held our own Boxing Day.

    • Here in America, we have politicians that tell us to grin and bear the gloved hand of tyranny up our metaphorical rectums. This past week has been a tumultuous time for our country with millions upon millions angry, demanding the end to the usurpation of our human rights. These calls have fallen on deaf ears. Canada, the great untamed frontier, still seems to have politicians who put people over policy. What a topsy-turvy world we live in that we Americans finally look northward for leadership! Maybe it
    • by Hatta (162192)

      My representative is great at listening. Doesn't make a damned bit of difference in what he does, but he will definitely listen to you.

  • Update (Score:3, Informative)

    by airfoobar (1853132) on Wednesday November 24, 2010 @05:45PM (#34337600)
    O:P have replied to the Pirate Parties (link to pdf on their website [anonops.net]), and basically told them to F off.
    • Re:Update (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Xacid (560407) on Wednesday November 24, 2010 @06:52PM (#34338176) Journal
      "and basically told them to F off"? Umm, no. From your own link: "We recognize and respect the work of all the Pirate Parties and wish them luck. We hope that they all continue their fight as they think is right. And so will we fight, as we think is right." That's a mile away from telling anyone to "F off". They're supporting the same cause - they're just not aligned in their methodology.
    • by Andy_R (114137)

      Indeed... while other O:P people have said they would stop.

      The end result is that politicians of other parties will be less able to confuse O:P with the PP, and less able to dismiss the PP as rogue lawbreakers, since the PP can truthfull say they did more than anyone else to try and get O:P to behave lawfully.

  • I dunno... it sounds.... haaaaard!
  • by adonoman (624929) on Wednesday November 24, 2010 @06:03PM (#34337740)
    Given Mr. Coleman's limited budget, to save save money, he only used a single campaign sign [youtube.com] and posted it on the web. It's an interesting take on IP rights, given that the used another sign to create his.
  • by unity100 (970058) on Wednesday November 24, 2010 @06:08PM (#34337816) Homepage Journal
    one should equate it to the masses in front of the guillotine back in 18th century. it is not wise, to keep ignoring their will, despite they having started to openly express it and become aggressive over it. last batch to do that, had their heads in a bucket.
    • This doesn't work in the anglosphere unfortunately. The English had a revolution, remember, and they went promptly back to a monarchy, which they still have in the 21st century and no sign of wanting to change. And while the Americans overthrew the British yoke, that's a far cry from exterminating the nobles and clergy and reinventing society from the ground up, as was the goal in France.

      Something in the collective psyche of the English speaking world seems to favour appeasement and compromise with the ru

      • by unity100 (970058)
        thats an interesting approach. or is it that, the old world still dominating the new, through its influence ?
      • Your understanding of the removal and subsequent restoration of the English monarchy is a little stunted - there were several subsequent further rebellions against the installed Parliament, including the removal of the Lord Protectorate (the position that Cromwell created to replace the monarchy - essentially the same in all but name) by the army, and the closure of the Houses and installation of a new committee to oversee England.

        The installed governor of Scotland also marched against England, which res
    • by Shadow99_1 (86250)

      Well the problem with ever finding their heads in the bucket is that the overwhelming military might is now on their side, as it has become since at least WW I. As long as they retain the support of the military they are confident their heads will stay in place.

      Well that and they have spent ages creating public apathy along with their corporate friends...

    • by yariv (1107831)

      The idea that no one ignored "the masses" since the French revolution is simply ignorant. You can see all sorts of riots since then, including in the US, which ended in nothing at all, or sometimes small compromises by the government. You simply don't understand the level of unrest required for a revolution, IP will never be enough, an economic collapse that will cause lack of food supplies might do it...

      Oh, and stop romanticising the revolution, they beheaded not only the king, but tens of thousands, mos

      • by unity100 (970058)
        noone ignored the masses since french revolution. they always paid them attention. they rarely gave them what they wanted, but, they never ignored masses, for they knew that how it would end, if they did.
        • by yariv (1107831)
          Well, no one is ignoring the masses now, they make examples of some people, ruining their lives (financially) for some downloaded stuff. So, not ignoring them, but still what the OP meant by ignoring...
    • one should equate it to the masses in front of the guillotine back in 18th century. it is not wise, to keep ignoring their will, despite they having started to openly express it and become aggressive over it. last batch to do that, had their heads in a bucket.

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      • by unity100 (970058)
        geeks ? masses ?

        do you think that there are millions of geeks in america ? hehehehe.

        and do you think the jury had acted along with the will of masses ? hahahaha.
  • by unity100 (970058) on Wednesday November 24, 2010 @06:22PM (#34337948) Homepage Journal
    let me see. i have qualified in first 500 out of 1.5 million youth who took the national university entrance exam in my country during my generation (a very hard exam that people prepare for 3 years, like tokyo u entrance exams), i have entered a university that is in the first in my nation, and have been sending graduates to teach in schools like MIT (yeah the one in usa) for a long time. (actually my professor was flying to mit to give lessons, and flying back, while teaching us), i have quit college, not wanting to go on with a career, and out of nowhere, with nothing, i have learned coding/programming/databases and established myself as a professional in the field for 5 years now, with clients from all over the world.

    during this time, i havent engaged in any illegal activity. havent been involved with the underground world, hacks, cracks, phreaks, and all that goes about it, despite i had ample opportunities, like any tech-savvy i.t. person that lives today.

    but rip my freedoms off that way, and you will push a lot of people like me, to underground, with a cause. and, i assure you, pushing that many smart people that way, is not a good thing.

    just saying.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by lidocaineus (661282)

      I'm loathe to tell you this because it SEEMS like trolling, but it's not; if you write like this, even in an informal public forum, with bad grammar, no punctuation, a strange logical string that doesn't make any sense, and an overwhelming sense of mis-placed esteem and hubris, you aren't doing yourself any favors. You come off like someone who maybe wanted to graduate in the top 500, but really ended up near the bottom.

  • Very disappointed in the Pirate Party. If they were winning seats in elections, successfully introducing legslation into parliaments, and making headway in making reforms relecting their policies, then I would understand their calls for Anon to stand down. However, I cannot see what platform upon which they have built their moral authority.

    They can distance themselves from illegal actions, other than the illegal actions that *they* have decided should not be illegal, but maybe they should concentrate on cha

  • Anonymous’ spokesperson...

    I'm sorry, who?

    • by jack2000 (1178961)
      Ha, just more people who don't know what they are talking about. A faceless mass of angry doesn't have a spokesperson.
  • Whatever happened to the reply from Ask the leader of the British Pirate party questions thread on Slashdot, was there ever and answer?

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