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Joe Biden Formally Clinches Democratic Nomination (npr.org) 422

Joe Biden has had a clear path to the Democratic Party's presidential nomination ever since Sen. Bernie Sanders dropped out of the 2020 race in early April. His path to the nomination reached another milestone tonight as the former Vice President officially secured the delegates needed to win. NPR reports: [T]he 78-year-old, who served as Delaware's U.S. Senator for decades before becoming vice president in 2009, will be his party's standard bearer against President Trump. Biden reached the benchmark as he has started to re-emerge on the campaign trial outside of his home, addressing twin crises that appear to be contributing to his lead over Trump in national polls, as well as in battleground states. The AP delegate estimate reached the magic number of 1,991 delegates for Biden as seven states and the District of Columbia continue counting votes from Tuesday's primaries. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who conceded and endorsed Biden in April while remaining on the ballot, failed to reach the 15% threshold to receive delegates in several contests, giving Biden more delegates than many political observers expected him to secure this week. NPR says Biden "wrapped up the nomination in practical terms faster than any Democrat since John Kerry in 2004."
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Joe Biden Formally Clinches Democratic Nomination

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  • by msmash2 ( 6922662 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @12:33AM (#60151426)
    And while we could have had Tulsi Gabbard, we let the Demoncratic National Convention shove another Hillary 2016 down our throats? Will we learn, or will we revolt? #BLM
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by arbiter1 ( 1204146 )
      "we let" you are acting like voting in DNC primary means anything. They already admitted in court during a class action lawsuit that they can pick who ever they damn well please no matter who people vote for.
      • Do you have a source for that comment? Like specifically the court case you mention?

        • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06, 2020 @12:57AM (#60151510)
          • by saloomy ( 2817221 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @01:24AM (#60151584)
            Why did this get modded down? Biden is going to lose because the DNC doesn't listen to its voter block. "Super-delegates" and establishment democrats will ensure that a loser is picked. Did you see Joe on the View? Imagine him debating trump who can change subjects and knows how to get a message across. Hillary was a much better debater than Biden, and she couldn't do it either. What were they thinking?
            • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

              What were they thinking?

              DNC is perfectly happy with Trump, or they would have supported a winner, and Trump really is a democrat. The republican getup is a poor disguise, but he couldn't win any other way. The DNC/GOP partnership is working well, with full control and tons of money coming in. After all, it is a laundromat, you know, just another mob run casino. Everything is going according to plan.

              • DNC is perfectly happy with Trump, or they would have supported a winner, and Trump really is a democrat

                Interesting. Given what all the democrat politicians have been saying about trump ... that means "real democrats" are racist orange idiots who conspire with Russians to rig elections?

                If that's the case, why the hell would anyone ever vote for a democrat?

                • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

                  Given what all the democrat politicians have been saying about trump

                  The only time I trust what they say is when there is a hot mic [politico.com] close by that they are not aware of

                • Trump campaigned as a Progressive Democrat, look at his campaign promises (better healthcare etc). He didn't follow through because he doesn't know how to lead and the Republican party has different goals. The DNC works for Corporate Money, just like the Republicans do. They don't like Biden but Corporate Money does and they must follow orders if they want to be paid. Real Democrats (the voters) hate how far Right the Democrat party has gone since they were bought off by Corporate Money, but are powerle
            • No, the story says that the VOTERS chose Biden.

              • by blindseer ( 891256 ) <blindseer@@@earthlink...net> on Saturday June 06, 2020 @04:26AM (#60151970)

                No, the voters didn't choose Biden. The people that chose Biden are a subset of Democrat Party members, those that decided to take the time to show up for the primary and vote for him.

                The question will now be how much of the subset of eligible voters bother to vote for Biden in the general election, compared to those that show up to vote for the others on the ballot.

                • those that decided to take the time to show up

                  Yep, that's how all elections work. Thus, the voters haven't really chosen anyone yet. Not Obama, not Trump, not Bush, you name it.

            • democrats will ensure that a loser is picked

              Biden was the "default" nothing-to-lose candidate because after a Trump's first term economy in good shape, Trump was very likely to win (and Biden was too old to qualify for 2024 anyway).
              That was before the Covid-19... Now the Democrats realize a win is possible, and Biden will certainly fight body and soul, but he may not be ready for that unexpected turn of events.

              • by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @02:52AM (#60151812)

                That was before the Covid-19...

                Covid is a triple-win for Democrats:

                1. It is knocking the "Trump-economy" back on its heels.

                2. It is giving Trump plenty of opportunities to display his incompetence.

                3. Covid (and George Floyd) dominate the news cycle, giving Biden fewer chances to say stupid stuff.

            • Hillary was a much better debater than Biden

              That's true, she actually did do a really good job in the debates.

            • by Cyberax ( 705495 )

              "Super-delegates" and establishment democrats will ensure that a loser is picked.

              The new DNC rules don't have super-delegates voting in the first round ( https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/25... [cnn.com] ). Basically, they now become relevant only if there's a deadlock between several candidates with a very close vote count.

            • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @06:26AM (#60152132)

              Imagine him debating trump who can change subjects and knows how to get a message across.

              Trump is able to get a message across? What world do you live in? He changes his message every 5 minutes, translators actively struggle to translate what he says, and after every speech there's a press conference where the White House basically says everyone misunderstood Trump he actually meant something else.

              Hillary was a much better debater than Biden, and she couldn't do it either. What were they thinking?

              I'm curious as to why you think the debates matter. Hillary ran circles around Trump in the debates, it changed nothing. People have made up their minds before the debate even takes place.

    • They didn't (Score:5, Interesting)

      by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @12:55AM (#60151496)
      I'm a pretty big Bernie Bro, but Bernie lost for real.

      The DNC absolutely cheated. Exit polls were off 8-11% and poll waits hit 7 hours.

      But even accounting for that Bernie barely cracked 30%. If all the progressive votes had gone his way, I gave him that 11% and a big more on top of that to account for the poll waits he still would've lost...

      And it's not hard to see why. Turnout was up across the board, but the under 29 set only came out about 30% more. Meanwhile the over 45 was pushing 60%.

      Basically, when it's actually time to vote the country is way, way more conservative (not right wing, conservative) than they probably should be. Yes, they'd like Medicare for All, but they don't really believe it's possible...

      It sucks, but there's a silver lining. More turnout will shift the Overton window left (if you don't know, it's a measure of how left/right the country is).

      The DNC is putting National Vote By Mail on the table, mostly to save their own skins from rampant voter suppression in the general. The way I see it is this. We leverage NVBM to get more voter reform: Automatic Voter Registration, Universal Suffrage, ending the Drug War (which is really Nixon's war on the left) and finally Ranked Choice voting.

      Compared to that the Whitehouse is a bauble. Biden can have it.
      • Re:They didn't (Score:5, Insightful)

        by dfghjk ( 711126 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @04:00AM (#60151924)

        The mistake isn't believing in Bernie's ideas, it's believing that those ideas would be best served with Bernie as President. He'd make a terrible President and candidate in the main. It's a relief he was not nominated, even with Biden's flaws. Having Bernie in the senate is fine, having he reign over 4 years of gridlock just wastes valuable time and elects another Trump later.

        As for the rest, the solution isn't getting your tribe's guy in the White House, it's getting good representation everywhere.

  • Joe Biden (Score:2, Funny)

    by protektor ( 63514 )

    Does Joe Biden realize that he won the DNC primary? I mean at one point he thought he was running for the senate in a speech he gave on the presidential campaign trail. LOL

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

    • Re:Joe Biden (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06, 2020 @12:48AM (#60151478)

      Man, do you really want to start counting out speech gaffes? Because your boy Trump won't fare all that well in comparison.

      Anyway, keep dismissing Biden at your peril. Paul Ryan learned this lesson the hard way.

    • Re:Joe Biden (Score:5, Insightful)

      by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @01:14AM (#60151558) Journal

      Yeah he made a bigly gaffe. If only Joe had the best words and knew more than all the generals he'd be strongly tremendous.

      But he misspoke a word so clearly he could never be president because, after all, his only experience is being Vice President for 8 years. Far better to have a failed reality TV show host as president. (I mean, 'cuz it's been working out great well so far, right?)

  • Two questions

    1) Who is going to be his VP?
    2) Is he going to win?
    • by jeff4747 ( 256583 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @12:54AM (#60151492)

      1) Who is going to be his VP?

      At this point, we can pretty much guarantee it will be a black woman.

      He already promised it would be a woman.

      The other presidential candidates that are not-black women don't have a lot to add to the ticket that Harris or someone like Abrams would bring. And recent events are going to push Team Biden towards them.

      2) Is he going to win?

      All current polling says yes. Including leaked polling from the Trump campaign.

      But he is as exciting as warm mayonnaise. So he's got plenty of room to pull a Clinton.

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        by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @12:57AM (#60151514)
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        • by dfghjk ( 711126 )

          Wow, such great insight. You chat with Hillary regularly?

      • I agree with Abrams, she would turn out voters and destroy Pence at Veep debates.
      • But he is as exciting as warm mayonnaise. So he's got plenty of room to pull a Clinton.

        Maybe boring is good, this time round. Last time, voters on the fence had a choice between the devil they knew, and the devil they didn't know. Clinton, the very embodiment of Trump's "swamp". Or Trump himself, a well known name but with no history in politics. Given that choice, I can understand why swing voters decided to give Trump a shot.
        But this time, those people know what Trump is about, and they might well prefer a boring candidate who is not going to upset the apple cart too much.

      • by dfghjk ( 711126 )

        "The other presidential candidates that are not-black women don't have a lot to add to the ticket that Harris or someone like Abrams would bring."

        Sounds like insight, but it's not. What "other candidates"? What do Harris or Abrams "bring"?

        I suppose if you mean blackness then that's true, otherwise it's meaningless. Not saying it won't be one of those two or that they aren't good choices, but there's a lot of time left.

        Considering that the choice is to pick someone actually qualified to be President, ther

    • 1) Likely either Kamala Harris or Liz Warren. Possibly Tammy Duckworth or Val Demmings. Kloubuchar is out since she looked the other way at the police officers who killed George Floyd or it would have been her.

      2. Nobody knows. The reason the protests are so huge is that unemployment's around 20%. The economy's still in free fall over COVID and the GOP is actively trying to stop giving help to the lower working class as they're worried those people will get accustom to a better lifestyle. Voter Registrat
      • Frankly, Elizabeth Warren - who turns 71 on June 22 - is too old to be on the same ticket with 78-year-old Biden. They need to pick a younger running mate.

        I think Kamala Harris would be a great choice, but then she didn't get any significant traction during the primaries so she's probably out. Not to mention that my picking a candidate is generally the kiss of death for that person's campaign, no matter what level of government we're talking about.

      • Harris is a racist who put a bunch of black people in jail though. Just like Biden himself. I'm not sure picking her would be a super wise idea. My guess: someone nobody has ever heard of with a past nobody will care about. And then hide in the basement until election day.

        • by dfghjk ( 711126 )

          That is the feeling of some in CA, but you have to realize that politics is primarily the domain of attorneys, you know, people with a background in "law". Putting a bunch of people in jail, many of whom were unsurprisingly black, is a sign that she was good at the job. DA's are not friends of the common man.

          Would you elect an ex-prosecutor that couldn't convict anyone? Do you think ex-prosecutors are disqualified from public office? Like Harris or don't. but holding being good at her job against her is

      • by dfghjk ( 711126 )

        Any "police brutality" vulnerability that would rule Klobachar out would also be effective against Harris. They have similar problems in that regard, just in different states. The optics are bad and that matters, but it's just optics. Klobachar is not to blame for police brutality. Having a candidate with some compassion AND a background in prosecution might actually be an advantage.

        Biden could win Texas though that would be uphill. You can't possibly know that talking about it signals an intent to "wa

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by ChrisMaple ( 607946 )

      1. 2 women with typical Democrat experience at ruining things are governor Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan and governor Janet Mills of Maine. They've only begun to make asses of themselves at a national level, so they have a chance. It's moot because

      2. Biden hasn't a chance. Democrats' best bet for winning the Presidency in 2020 is for Biden to croak a week before the election and a massive sympathy vote lets the electors choose whoever bribes them the most.

  • News for Nerds... (Score:4, Informative)

    by flyingfsck ( 986395 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @12:55AM (#60151494)
    Hmm, nope, not exactly, uh-uh, yawn... Americans... Sigh...
  • by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @12:56AM (#60151504)
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    • Joe got the nomination because he's expendable.

      Precisely. Nobody wants to run against an incumbent POTUS unless they can afford to lose. Those that are younger can just wait it out another 4 or 8 years to try against someone that isn't already in the White House. What makes the odds even tougher is that President Trump is fairly popular yet. While COVID-19 put the economy in the dumps this is not something that can be pinned on Trump so easily. There's also the possibility of a quick recovery that can make Trump even more popular by election day.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        What? Were you asleep when the Democratic primary had like 720 candidates running?

        • And 710 of those candidates (nearly all the Senators) were just shooting for the VP slot, to position for 2028. Another 8 just had a personal grudge against President Trump (Bloomberg, Steyer) and wanted to legally dump a few hundred million in ad-spend against the President. Only a couple (Sanders, Biden) were actual serious candidates.
      • " There's also the possibility of a quick recovery that can make Trump even more popular by election day. "

        As if by magic, I can predict the DOW will be touching 35k by November.

    • He got it because he turns out way more black votes than anybody else. It's either Joe, or blacks stay home and they lose.
    • by dfghjk ( 711126 )

      Dream on, Trump troll. The suggestion that he's the choice because the DNC is conceding is the most absurd thing anyone will post here.

  • I can't believe we're here yet again.

    Choice A: Shit
    Choice B: Shit

    Tell me again why voting is so important when our choices are limited to A and B above ?

    The absolute best people we have lack the ego and power-trip mindset to even want
    the position in the first place. Those that do strive to attain it, do so for all the wrong
    reasons.

    Hence, the reason we end up with this dumpster fire, three-ring shit-show every four
    years. :|

    How the hell the United States has survived as a country for as long as it has is a

    • by MtHuurne ( 602934 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @02:10AM (#60151692) Homepage

      Neither choice is appealing, but one is a regular politician and the other is a wannabe dictator.

    • There are other candidates in other parties; the reason they don't get traction is than they're even worse.

      If you can't figure the unique property of the U.S. that has allowed it to survive so long, you're too ignorant to choose well and thus shouldn't vote.

  • This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

    Good luck with that. :-)

  • by walterbyrd ( 182728 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @08:23AM (#60152304)

    He can barely remember his own name. He does not know where he is half the time. He forgets his train of thoughts halfway through a sentence and just rambles incoherently.

    Dems made a huge fuss over age when Reagan was elected at 69 years old. Also made a big deal of Bob Dole being too old to run at 73 years old. Dems ade a big deal of McCain's age when McCain ran at 72 years old.

    But hypercritical dems see no problems with a 78 year old Biden running the country. Nevermind that Biden already shows clear signs of dementia, and he's not getting any better.

  • by CaptainDork ( 3678879 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @12:03PM (#60152922)

    ... article on the grounds that it is not "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters."

    Stop it.

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