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Twitter Cut Out of Trump Tech Meeting Over Failed Emoji Deal, Says Report (politico.com) 551

According to Politico, Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey was "bounced" from Wednesday's meeting between tech executives and President-elect Donald Trump in retribution for refusing during the campaign to allow an emoji version of the hashtag #CrookedHillary. Trump's adviser Sean Spicer denied the report, saying "the conference table was only so big." Politico reports: Twitter was one of the few major U.S. tech companies not represented at Wednesday afternoon's Trump Tower meeting attended by, among others, Apple's Tim Cook, Amazon's Jeff Bezos, Facebook's Sheryl Sandberg, and Tesla's Elon Musk -- an omission all the more striking because of Trump's heavy dependence on the Twitter platform. Trump's campaign also made a $5 million deal with Twitter before the election, in which the campaign committed "to spending a certain amount on advertising and in exchange receive discounts, perks, and custom solutions," the campaign's director of digital advertising and fund raising, Gary Coby, wrote in a Medium post last month. So the campaign objected when the company refused to allow the anti-Clinton emoji. Coby wrote that Dorsey personally intervened to block the Trump operation from deploying the emoji, which would have shown, in various renderings, small bags of money being given away or stolen. That emoji would have been offered to users as a replacement for the hashtag #CrookedHillary, a preferred Trump insult for his Democratic opponent. Spicer also objected to the company's refusal, telling the Washington Examiner in October that "while Twitter claims to be a venue that promotes the free exchange of ideas, it's clear that it's leadership's left wing ideology literally trumps that." POLITICO's source said Spicer, who's also the Republican National Committee spokesman, was the one who made the call to refuse an invitation to Dorsey or other Twitter executives to Wednesday's meeting.
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @10:37PM (#53487709)

    I mean, with all these goddamn meetings happening in goddamn Trump Tower, am I the only one thinking that it's like a goddamn prolog to a bad cyberpunk-dystopia novel?
    "I remember the rise of the megacorps... when all the govs and corps started funneling through the Trumps. If you were anyone, if you wanted anything, you went through those doors, up that golden elevator, and would plead your case to the Trump himself..."

    I don't have anything of substance to this particular conversation, but Jesus Harold CHRIST, am I the only one who gets creeped the hell out by constanly reading about the future of our country marching through the goddamn Trump Tower?

    • by LinuxInDallas ( 73952 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @10:49PM (#53487749)

      President elect has meetings at his home and you feel what? What location would you prefer, Disneyland?

      • Trump Tower though. It sounds like a super-villain's lair.
        • Look at the facts:-
          Many say he wears a wig, meaning he's bald. He just got elected Prez.
          Who does that remind me of?
          He's Lex Luthor, and his new "cabinet" reads like the next Legion of Doom
          Super-villain lair CONFIRMED!
          • Lex Luthor was evil, but he was also a genius and a highly skilled orator. The comparison falls a bit short when those two points are in the mix, but I get your point. ;)
      • by Jeremi ( 14640 ) on Thursday December 15, 2016 @12:53AM (#53488083) Homepage

        I'd prefer the President not line up the CEO of every large company in the land to come by and personally kiss his ass. It looks too much like thinly veiled coercion.

    • by Dutch Gun ( 899105 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @10:55PM (#53487773)

      He's not in the White House yet, and Trump Tower is his home and center of operations. Where else would you like him to meet with people?

      • by KeensMustard ( 655606 ) on Thursday December 15, 2016 @01:03AM (#53488123)
        The problem (as many have noted), is the casual intermixing of his business empire, which he has refused to put at arms length and his role as president. These roles are inevitable conflict, and once he takes the oath of office he will be violating the constitution [abc.net.au].

        As noted in the link, examples of his conflicts of interest include:

        1. His daughter Ivanka was present in a meeting with Shinzo Abe. She is looking to close a deal with a Japanese clothing giant whose largest shareholder is the state-owned Development Bank of Japan.

        2. He accepted a phone call from the President of Taiwan. It turns out he is planning to build a luxury hotel in Taiwan. Is his position on Taiwan and the One China Policy influenced by his financial stake in this deal?

        A cynical observer might say he is using the presidency as a vehicle to advance his business empire, and out of the other proferred explanation this one best matches his seemingly bizarre behaviour.

        • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          It speaks to just how poor is moral character is. The guy is set to be the most powerful individual in the world by most reckonings, but can't give up his money making schemes for just four years to do the job. He can't even resist not blatantly, openly using it to enrich himself and his family and his friends.

          Of course, we knew this before he was elected. His presidency is the biggest con-trick ever pulled in the history of the world.

    • by aevan ( 903814 )
      Could be worse, could be Shadowrun
  • Fuck twitter. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @10:39PM (#53487713)

    Twitter is a chat program. And they keep censoring things. Stupid things. In crazy hypocritical ways.

    They're not DESERVING of being included in jack shit when it comes to america.

    • by zieroh ( 307208 )

      Twitter is a chat program.

      For the record, Twitter is not a fucking "chat program". First, nobody except my Aunt Josephine calls anything a "program" any more, and when Aunty J says it she's talking about Lawrence Welk. Second, Twitter is a platform to broadcast every idiotic thought that anyone has to the fucking world, simultaneously. Which means it's a fucking blog. And a microblog at that.

      Fuck me. It's like slashdot now lets complete technical retrogrades post here. No wonder this place is overrun by douchebags who think burning

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  • by Kargan ( 250092 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @10:43PM (#53487727) Homepage

    Some of us were worried that Trump was going to be petty, and seek revenge against those who he felt wronged him in the past, especially during the campaign.

    Whew, sure glad to see that's not the case!

    • by postbigbang ( 761081 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @10:57PM (#53487779)

      The roster of suck-ups at the meeting is somehwat harrowing. The photos of the expressions on their faces are priceless.

      And to those that didn't make it there-- your integrity is intact. No slime, no foul, no tainted deals that will drain your legal dept dry in four years.

      Who was missing at the table? People. Labor. The schmucks that do the actual work, like you and I. Larry Ellison? Gates? Zuck? Kravitz? Nope, not there either.

      There is the 0.5%, the next 0.5% (some present at the meeting, especially those with outer space plans), and the 99% (us) were, um, kinda missing.

    • Flamebait? C'mon, that was funny, even for Republicans.

      Anyhow, maybe when Twitter actually earns a significant profit (last quarter was their first, I believe?) they can sit at the big boys' table. They're an important company more in stature / mindshare than in their bottom line. I'm pretty sure Trump knows how to read an earnings report.

    • Some of us were worried that Trump was going to be petty, and seek revenge against those who he felt wronged him in the past, especially during the campaign.

      And some of us thought the liberals were going to be petty and seek revenge.

  • compared to this [nbcnews.com]. This is why Trump one. He (or his handlers) are a master to misdirecting folks from real scandals to fake ones. He did it all campaign long. His media and information control skills are terrifying. It's like Karl Rove 2.0.
    • by Xenographic ( 557057 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @11:18PM (#53487833) Journal

      That's a fascinating article, actually. Why don't we look at the evidence they present to support their claims?

      Two senior officials with direct access to the information say new intelligence shows that Putin personally directed how hacked material from Democrats was leaked and otherwise used. The intelligence came from diplomatic sources and spies working for U.S. allies, the officials said.

      So... they have anonymous people who are reporting rumors that they won't attach their names to. And there are other insiders saying the complete opposite. Lovely. Why don't they put out some actual, hard proof? Or prosecute someone? Maybe more of those banking restrictions they place on particular individuals? Oh, right.

      The FBI and other agencies don't fully endorse that view, but few officials would dispute that the Russian operation was intended to harm Clinton's candidacy by leaking embarrassing emails about Democrats.

      So the FBI is willing to put their name on this saying it's not true, but the anonymous people with rumors are going to say our allies gossiped about this? And NBC simply labels this as a "Russian operation" despite failing to present any evidence of that. We already discussed just yesterday how Podesta fell for a simple phishing scam [slashdot.org], but presumably here they're talking about the DNC leaks, which Wikileaks says came from a DNC insider. You can read all about the bad jouranlism [craigmurray.org.uk] behind this conclusion if you wish. They're simply laundering anonymous rumors with no factual basis and referencing each other's stories that have no factual basis. The emperor has no clothes.

      You know it's bad when my own Slashdot comments scooped the NYT on that Podesta email story by weeks and given that I provided more actual, verifiable sources than their article. Seriously, if you can't even beat Slashdot comments by some random guy on the internet, maybe it's time to give it up, guys? You don't even bother to link to the actual sources lest someone do a real investigation, what a pathetic joke.

      Back on topic, let's not forget that they brought up the 17 intelligence agencies again. Would it kill you guys to actually name them [dni.gov]? It's also misleading, because it comes from the directors (political appointees), specifically it was the: "Joint Statement from the Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security "

      The latest intelligence said to show Putin's involvement goes much further than the information the U.S. was relying on in October, when all 17 intelligence agencies signed onto a statement attributing the Democratic National Committee hack to Russia.

      I love how they don't bother to link to the actual statement [dni.gov] lest someone actually read what it said. It's not based on anything of substance as anyone can read. They essentially say this is totally something Russia would like to do. Also, we've seen random probes from Russia. Which everyone who has a network has seen all the time (same for China, incidentally), making it utterly meaningless. Everyone with an SSH server has seen this kind of crap and Slashdot has reported many such stories in the past, like this one [slashdot.org]. A nice quote from the comments in that story sums it up: "If you truly expect no traffic from those places, dropping China, Brasil and Russia from ever reaching your ssh port is a great idea."

      Let's also not forget that the DHS was

      • by Motherfucking Shit ( 636021 ) on Thursday December 15, 2016 @12:09AM (#53487955) Journal

        So... they have anonymous people who are reporting rumors that they won't attach their names to. And there are other insiders saying the complete opposite.

        Sounds a lot like Donald Trump to me. "Lots of folks are saying" Hillary is about to die from pneumonia, "some tremendous experts are saying" climate change is a conspiracy by the Chinese, "people are talking about" Obama himself unloading 100 trillion dollars from an airplane in Iran while snorting coke off a hooker's ass, etc. Always anonymously attributed to some nebulous "people," and often when making a statement that nobody was talking about until he brought it up. It's a great way to start a meme.

        Lovely. Why don't they put out some actual, hard proof?

        Indeed, I'd love it if Trump's Twitter rants were required to be accompanied by citations.

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by Xenographic ( 557057 )

          I don't remember anyone saying she was in danger of immanent death, but Hillary did get chucked into a van [youtube.com] by her staff and her health was reported as being just fine... until that very public collapse. The foreign press was far less kind [youtube.com] when they made a little re-enactment. I haven't even heard the other ones, so feel free to link me to the Tweets.

          But yes, I'd be happy to have more people posting verifiable facts rather than ill-informed speculation, no matter who they are.

      • by dbIII ( 701233 )

        Would it kill you guys to actually name them

        Spooks don't like being named especially if they say something that people in politics will not like. That's why we see so many articles like that instead of "CIA Analyst Fredrick Fishmeister says ..."
        Is it true? Spooks spend so much time crying wolf or other lies that it's hard to say.

      • by quantaman ( 517394 ) on Thursday December 15, 2016 @12:33AM (#53488029)

        That's a fascinating article, actually. Why don't we look at the evidence they present to support their claims?

        Two senior officials with direct access to the information say new intelligence shows that Putin personally directed how hacked material from Democrats was leaked and otherwise used. The intelligence came from diplomatic sources and spies working for U.S. allies, the officials said.

        So... they have anonymous people who are reporting rumors that they won't attach their names to.

        AKA anonymous leakers, a basic reporting tool.

        The leakers don't publicize their names because they're not supposed to be leaking the information, but the reporter can vouch for the fact that they are senior officials with access to the information.

        And there are other insiders saying the complete opposite.

        No there aren't, at least not in this article.

        Lovely. Why don't they put out some actual, hard proof?

        Because a lot of the evidence comes from confidential sources like CIA spies.

        Or prosecute someone?

        Who? Vladimir Putin?

        The FBI and other agencies don't fully endorse that view, but few officials would dispute that the Russian operation was intended to harm Clinton's candidacy by leaking embarrassing emails about Democrats.

        So the FBI is willing to put their name on this saying it's not true

        I'm not sure how you read that sentence and came up with that interpretation.

        The FBI did not say it was false that Russia was trying to elect Trump. The FBI, and every other agency that investigated it, said they agree that Russia was trying to hurt Clinton, but they don't know if the intent was merely to destabilize the US or to actually have Trump win the election.

        And NBC simply labels this as a "Russian operation" despite failing to present any evidence of that.

        Because that's been well established for months.

        You can read all about the bad jouranlism [craigmurray.org.uk] behind this conclusion if you wish.

        And have a good laugh at the "analysis" within. He simply dismissed all of the evidence of the hacking group intruding to the DNC network. Has Assange even disclosed how he knows that the "leaker" is a DNC insider and not some Russian operative claiming to be one?

        Back on topic, let's not forget that they brought up the 17 intelligence agencies again. Would it kill you guys to actually name them [dni.gov]? It's also misleading, because it comes from the directors (political appointees)

        Who else is going to endorse the statement except the director? And you really think that not only did 17 directors all endorse a false statement, but that no one in any of their agencies leaked evidence to the contrary?

        I love how they don't bother to link to the actual statement [dni.gov] lest someone actually read what it said. It's not based on anything of substance as anyone can read. They essentially say this is totally something Russia would like to do.

        No. They essentially say these hacks fit the profile of other attacks that have been tied to Russia.

    • And yet Obama said himself in this interview with Trevor Noah two days ago that the hacked emails were "frankly not very interesting", with "nothing explosive" and just "fairly routine stuff". @3:30-4:00 and @5:20
      http://www.cc.com/video-clips/... [cc.com]

      So Obama makes a public announcement that a "deep dive" secret, covert operation is about to begin, and then one day later the Obama appointed CIA officials conclude that the operation is complete and they know Putin's intent, that he wanted to help Trump get electe

  • by Kohath ( 38547 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @10:50PM (#53487751)

    Twitter isn't a tech company. It's a 140 character message board. Were Slashdot and Reddit invited?

    • Firstly; Facebook were invited, they're also primarily a social media site. Secondly; Twitter were invited (so they obviously were seen as a worthwhile guest initially) they just got bumped in light of events, that's the story. That's what you're missing.
    • by hey! ( 33014 ) on Thursday December 15, 2016 @12:33AM (#53488025) Homepage Journal

      Oh, for Pete's sake. Twitter doesn't sell technology; no social media company does. They sell you. That doesn't mean they're not involved in developing new technology, you just don't see it unless you're a developer who uses the open source projects or standards they contribute to.

  • Lowest Comon Denominator, that's what "emojis" are for
  • Twitter is a "major tech company." Since when??

    It's a website that can receive SMS. There's nothing tech about it. And they can't really even be a "major company," as they have no product. All they have are eyeballs into which ads can be jammed, and those are fickle beasts.

    • by afgam28 ( 48611 )

      I presume that you're not a programmer, at least not on anything big. Believe it or not, it takes a lot of engineering to build a system that can scale to the number of users that Twitter has, and provide them with more features than you give them credit for.

  • suspend his twitter account. Just to enjoy the schadenfreude.

    • They probably should. Twitter would at last have a buyer. And one that could afford to keep their sorry asses afloat just for the entertainment value, at that.

    • Yes, this. I wonder if he'd be able to figure out any other apps...hahahah

  • by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Thursday December 15, 2016 @12:02AM (#53487927) Homepage Journal

    As the only politician with his own emoji, he should be stoked. Although, to be fair, :poop: lacks a certain panache.

  • Expect a lot more of this shit at the whim of your new King.
    How the fuck did the USA of Jefferson, Washington and all the rest end up like this?
  • It's his preferred way to communicate with the public, so it would probably hurt.

  • by quantaman ( 517394 ) on Thursday December 15, 2016 @12:41AM (#53488049)

    First they were going to allow a custom emoji for "#CrookedHillary", then when it got too offensive/slanderous they decided "no, we won't do political emojis".

    Wouldn't a better policy simply be to say "we don't do emojis that denigrate other people"?

  • by zuki ( 845560 ) on Thursday December 15, 2016 @12:52AM (#53488081) Journal
    Not sure how much credence to give to such a report, but if it turns out to be true it would totally be in line with NJ governor Chris Christie's aides shutting down lanes of the GW Bridge in retribution for the town they pass through having voted against him.

    That playbook sure seems to be a popular one, so especially knowing Trump's legendary vindictiveness we should not be surprised in the least that such a thing might be true for Twitter being penalized.

    Then again if I was one of Trump's aides and needed an empty 'spin excuse' to explain why? I'd state that "Given how much Twitter's social platform is used by the president-elect every day, it would represent a conflict of interest for someone from that company to get invited to such a meeting." or something equally vacuous.

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