WikiLeaks Publishes Cryptic UFO Emails Sent To Clinton Campaign From Former Blink 182 Singer (gizmodo.com) 205
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Gizmodo: The former lead singer of Blink 182, Tom DeLonge, has publicly admitted to his obsession with UFOs -- but that still doesn't explain why he was sending two cryptic messages about alien spacecrafts to Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta, as the Wall Street Journal reported earlier today. The former rockstar's UFO emails became public in the latest Wikleaks dump, published earlier this month. DeLonge, who is best known for his shitty guitar riffs and vocals in songs like "What's My Age Again," emailed Podesta at least twice from his personal account, urging him to meet in person so he could introduce Podesta to high-level officials (presumably with info about UFOs). Here's a small taste of one of the messages: "I would like to bring two very 'important' people out to meet you in DC. I think you will find them very interesting, as they were principal leadership relating to our sensitive topic. Both were in charge of most fragile divisions, as it relates to Classified Science and DOD topics. Other words, these are A-Level officials. Worth our time, and as well the investment to bring all the way out to you. I just need 2 hours from you." In another email, DeLonge said he's been working with someone named General McCasland, and explained some of the General's public comments. The email is rather strange, given that there's no specific request made or really any context at all for the message: "He mentioned he's a 'skeptic,' he's not.... He just has to say that out loud, but he is very, very aware -- as he was in charge of all of the stuff. When Roswell crashed, they shipped it to the laboratory at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. General McCasland was in charge of that exact laboratory up to a couple years ago." It's unclear if Podesta ever responded to the messages, but he has shown interest in UFOs in the past. When he stepped down from his role as a senior advisor to President Barack Obama, Podesta tweeted, "Finally, my biggest failure of 2014: Once again not securing the #disclosure of the UFO files. #thetruthisstilloutthere cc: @NYTimesDowd." The famous tweet now appears under the name of Obama's new senior advisor Brian Deese.
Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! (Score:4, Funny)
And Make The Aliens Pay For It!
Trump 2016!
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A fact you never hear news on is Mexico's concern with its northern border. Mexico may be happy to export its poor across it, but it is deeply concerned that in return it's importing American guns.
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Well, some of the "exports" they have are also quite awful for mexico, like women trafficking, "brain drain", people that come from other countries and frak up mexico before moving on to the US...
Mexico would love this wall as long they had control over it.
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I wonder if anyone has told Trump that the human & drug smugglers already use tunnels.
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Likely, though a lot of that is easy to detect if you have the sensors for it. Keep in mind that the US border across Mexico doesn't, and the Obama administration heavily leans on ICE to stop guards from actually doing anything.
Anyway, what I find interesting is how this is a story on /. but something like the NYC election commissioner coming out and saying that there's serious voter fraud going on [youtu.be], with groups busing people around and that voter ID is a good thing isn't up.
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Sounds like something that would be easy to break up with a little law enforcement intervention, and would be generally likely to run into felony-level problems. If the police and precinct workers are turning a blind eye, there's bigger problems than voter ID would solve.
I'm not necessarily against voter ID. I'm against every implementation of voter ID I've seen in the US, which usually comes with ways to prevent people from voting, either built into the proposal (the Minnesota proposed constitutional
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Outing crooks being crooks is one thing. Outing honest people for being honest, when that will surely cost them their careers, is something else.
If he's unwilling to push for reform while being at the top of his position and in a position of power. He's no different then a crook, or in truth he has no problem with it because it supports his ideology(and that of his party in power).
Keep in mind that several states have now on-going investigations. Probably the largest right now is Indiana, which is investigating every county and fraudulent voter ID's have been linked to democrat linked or backed organizations.
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Yes, which is why the new wall will have seismic sensors to detect tunneling.
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Yes, Trump has mentioned building the wall into the ground...
Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! (Score:5, Funny)
I think your optical drive needs realignment.
Uh, don't you have some contrails to clean up (Score:2)
by spraying vinegar in their general direction?
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But Hitler nazi trump xenophobic racist
Yep. Mysogynist too. You forgot that one.
That's a nice smoke screen you got there (Score:5, Insightful)
Not that I am a huge fan of Blink 182 or anything, but is there really a need to call their riffs "shitty"? Afterall, they probably accomplished more in their lives than the shill who wrote this article.
Captcha: Frigid, just like Hillary.
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Holy shit, me too! I read "shifty" a couple of times, but after AC's comment I checked and it actually does read "shitty". The thing is, though, that in the original Gizmodo article it *also* reads "shitty".
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Clearly he meant schwifty but for some reason had autocorrect on.
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Additionally, "What's my age again?" is one of the few Blink 182 songs not to feature his horrible vocals.
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Being a huge fan of Blink 182 (in my top 10 bands), I can say the riffs are simple, which some might define as shitty if what they appreciate is sheer technical ability. And if have you ever seen them live, be it in person or on through a TV show where they actually singing and playing, you wouldn't even thought of writing that comment. I have actually seen them live and it's worse than shitty, especially Tom. One of the worst live bands ever, Sex Pistols-level. Mark's instrument being the bass and his low
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And if have you ever seen them live, be it in person or on through a TV show where they actually singing and playing, you wouldn't even thought of writing that comment. I have actually seen them live and it's worse than shitty, especially Tom. One of the worst live bands ever, Sex Pistols-level. Mark's instrument being the bass and his low tone might be more forgiving, but Tom is buttfck bad bad live.
Man, that's the funniest fan written description ever!
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CHOSEN TO SHOW THE WORLD (Score:2)
But surely this dude should already know the real truth.
Because teh intarwebs [archive.org] tell me that that the Space People communicate [blogspot.com] to the great unwashed through the medium of Rock n Roll. David Bowie, Jimi Hendrix and dozens of other examples have met the Space Brothers.
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Not sure if he's thinking of ELO [wordpress.com], Boston [pinimg.com] had a lot of UFOs [wordpress.com] on their album covers [wordpress.com], too.
Not as much as Yes' [alien landscapes*, UFO songs]. Even The Carpenters made a UFO song. Those were the days.
(*) Appropriated by the producers of Avatar without credits for Roger Dean. But I digress.
And let's not forget Klaatu. They had UFO/Alien-themed songs across at tleast two of their hard-to-find albums.
"Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft" and "Anus from Uranus" (a HILARIOUS song, with lyrics that were recorded BACKWARDS with words phonetically-chose to sound like the words they wanted when played FORWARD). WAY cool!
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The song with the Backwards lyrics was "Silly Boys", on their third album, "Sir Army Suit". They LYRICS from that song are from the song "Anus of Uranus" from their FIRST album, which I believe was called
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Sorry to disappoint you, but they're not the Beatles.
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Sorry to disappoint you, but they're not the Beatles.
Oh, I know. I read all those things back then. But I still like a lot of their songs in small doses.
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Not that I am a huge fan of Blink 182 or anything, but is there really a need to call their riffs "shitty"? Afterall, they probably accomplished more in their lives than the shill who wrote this article.
Captcha: Frigid, just like Hillary.
Because, unlike UFOs, we can substantiate the shitty guitar rifs
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Not that I am a huge fan of Blink 182 or anything, but is there really a need to call their riffs "shitty"?
Yes
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By what standards? The standards of a society that saw fit to reward blink 182?
I think it's the standards we should question..
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Personal attacks are how you distinguish real journalists from the wannabes like Anonymous Coward, bloggers, and cable news channels.
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A summary in a discussion website is not the right place to insert colorful qualifiers. That entertainment is for the comments to provide. --Editor 101, chapter 13.
Agreed.
It would be more useful to keep personal opinions in a summary away and instead perhaps provide some links to the actual emails in question instead rather than an article talking about someone elses opinions on them; But hey reading and forming your own opinions is so unfashionable these days.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-... [wikileaks.org]
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-... [wikileaks.org]
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-... [wikileaks.org]
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An Anonymous Coward fight! Get the popcorn!
his shitty guitar riffs and vocals (Score:2, Insightful)
Biased much?
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"peaking at number two on Billboard's Modern Rock Tracks chart for ten weeks" -Wiki
Is shitty the new word for cool?
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Typically, what's considered cool and popular by the majority is insipid to those with half a braincell.
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I am so sorry to hear you only have half a brain-cell. Although it is promising to see you able to post comments to slashdot.
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an unbiased media is in all of our interests, even if we don't agree politically.
Why does being rich and famous... (Score:2)
make so many people lose their grip on reality? Whether it is thinking we all live in a computer simulation or UFOs are scouting the planet, or that the earth is really flat, there seems to be a connection between making too much money and losing your mind.
Re:Why does being rich and famous... (Score:4, Interesting)
They either believe they are so much better than everyone else and they've got it all figured out, the universe loves them and they're blessed, or just incredibly lucky.
None of those is exactly a recipe for great mental health.
Re:Why does being rich and famous... (Score:4, Interesting)
VALIS wept (Score:2)
I think needing to concern yourself with money to fulfill your basic needs grounds you in reality a bit compared to living off of some giant nest egg managed by your accountant.
Wow man, careful with your phrasing there.
How about something along the lines of "having to constantly work in order to merely survive doesn't leave much time for philosophical vaporings".
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Re:Why does being rich and famous... (Score:4, Insightful)
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You stated nothing, you offered no information. You just claimed I was biased. How is that intelligent or meaningful? Please, at least pretend you have something meaningful to say.
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And considering how much information is out there about how money affects people's behavior and rationality, I think my case is strong.
http://www.livescience.com/112... [livescience.com]
https://www.researchgate.net/p... [researchgate.net]
http://www.businessinsider.com... [businessinsider.com]
http://nymag.com/news/features... [nymag.com]
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make so many people lose their grip on reality?
It's likely drugs or medications, it's the only reasonable explanation. Ask yourself, what's the most insane thing you thought has been true while on some pain medication or hypnotic drug for whatever. Now consider you've got lots of money, and can afford to grease a doctors palms to get you a steady supply of something that'll make you feel great, all the time. Makes a lot of sense doesn't it?
Anyone who's been on pain meds at a high dose will tell you all the fucked up stuff that they've either done or
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Ask yourself, what's the most insane thing you thought has been true while on some pain medication or hypnotic drug for whatever
I can't think of anything "insane" I ever thought while being on pain meds. In fact, I never noticed much effect at all from pain meds when I've taken them. Similarly, I've never noticed any kind of mental effect or "buzz" from drinking alcohol. Maybe I'm weird...
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You are not uncommon either but pushing forward an idea you are not totally informed on either.
I think you misunderstand me. I'm not saying that *other* people don't have real mental effects from drugs and alcohol. I'm just relating my own personal experience that I don't seem to have any for some odd reason. (Yes, I realize this is very tangential to the discussion here.) I'll admit that I've never taken *a lot* of either one, but I've taken plenty of hard pharmaceuticals for various medical procedures
Drugs (Score:2)
He admitted to being high on painkillers during the entire recording session for his side project's debut album (Angels And Airwaves).
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Plenty of people are nuts and you don't know them. You know about the famous nuts BECAUSE THEY'RE FAMOUS. There are literally thousands of famous actors, musicians, and athletes, and it only takes a few visible nuts to make it seem like there are a WHOLE LOT of nuts.
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Citations please. The research I have read indicates that lots of money makes people less empathic, less social and more irrational. And I was not talking about mental illness as you know, I was talking about delusional thinking. But go ahead and defend wealthy people without offering any information or citations.
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I had a close friend who suffered from delusions of some kind. (I would guess paranoid schizophrenia, but i'm not a doctor.) At the start it was just that she thought people were spying on her (or at least that was all she would admit to at the time.) Eventually this developed into a belief that the government was bouncing signals off of tesla coils on the moo
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It doesn't.
You just don't hear about the poor people who lose their grip on reality.
Rich people are more visible, so their ridiculous ideas are more visible. Doesn't actually make them more prevalent.
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Citations please?
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Citations on what? That poor people can be crazy?
Spend 5 minutes in a wallmart, or check out any of the conspiracy theories on Youtube.
Rich folks do not have a monopoly on insanity.
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I said in several of my posts I was not talking about insanity. Now I know you are not reading what I wrote. You are assuming what I wrote. I am not talking about being insane or having a mental illness. I was saying that having too much money affects people's thinking and behavior in negative ways. I wanted you to provide citations that purport that having huge sums of money does not affect people's reasoning, empathy, risk taking, etc. My original question was why do many really rich people seem to lose t
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You are correct: I have not read everything you wrote, but I've read enough here to know that you're full of shit.
I don't need to provide citations for anything. You have made the claim that "having too much money affects people's thinking and behavior in negative ways," so the burden of proof is on you. When you make the claim, you need to support that claim.
You need to prove that Tom DeLong being a nutter is related to his wealth, and not simply just a random nutter who also happens to have money. Or a
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You're ability to debate is abysmal. You are obviously a jerk.You can't understand what other people are saying. Wow.
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Why does being rich and famous...make so many people lose their grip on reality?
Because (like beauty), having money, power, and/or fame distorts the feedback they get from other people about their ideas. When they say something oddball, they may receive encouragement, rather than discouragement, from people who want them to be attracted and friendly to them, in the hopes of receiving benefits (such as money, beneficial exercise of power, or physical intimacy). Reward their wrong and/or wierd opinions and
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To keep wealth it is often good to make contact with the political class. Charity work globally, NGO's with full gov backing.
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We can prove the Earth is not flat. But, how can you prove something has never been seen? And where's the proof that we aren't in a simulation? As soon as you got proof or even later a restore from an earlier snapshot would undo your work.
Same place as the proof that I'm not really a space baby and you're all part of my dreams and when I wake up I'll go back to munching on stars. You can't prove a negative.
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You can't prove a negative.
Of course you can.
Define your terms such that A and B are mutually exclusive. Proving A proves !B.
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Again, ad hominem. Not one word about the topic. You clearly have nothing of substance to say. But that is not surprising. Can't wait for your next, off topic ad hominem.
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You and the others have provided no proof for your statements. I already gave links, and could give many more that show that money affects people's thinking, their behavior towards others, their empathy and their decision making. These effects are well documented. You and the others only comment was that I had selection bias. You will never win a debate with that approach. You certainly haven't won this debate. So instead of talking about me, how about you talk about the effects or lack thereof of money on
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I am a neuroscientist by trade and your description of the brain functioning is not particularly accurate nor helpful for the discussion. I was talking about the growing body of scientific literature that shows that money has negative effects on human cognition, everything from risk assessment and risk taking, to empathy toward others. I also maintain that it allows people to live in a fact free bubble even more easily than it is for people of modest means to be fact free. What I don't understand is why you
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You can make your points without reference to me personally, and you know it. Yes, you did start with sarcasm and I accept your apology. I was not trying to be condescending, and I don't think I was. The topic I brought up was why do so many rich people seem to have trouble with reality. I fully understand that many regular (non-wealthy) people have a very poor grip on reality. But you would think that highly successful people with more money than God might be more rational. My contention, and you have prov
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Hardly worth the leak (Score:2)
I'm neither a conspiracy nutter nor a high profile public figure (does this Tom DeLonge count as both?) but I'm willing to bet that the former message the latter via all sorts of medium all the time.
If Wikileaks have got something interesting then reveal that, not this nonsense.
Project Mogul (Score:3)
This is an especially worthless leak because the documents dealing with the thing that crashed in Roswell in 1947 were already declassified [csicop.org] back in the mid 1990's [csicop.org].
My freshman physics teacher [nmt.edu], and undergraduate college advisor, worked on project mogul. He was part of the team that built the craft that crashed in Roswell in 1947. I learned college physics from one of the beings that built the craft that crashed in Roswell and started a UFO 'craze'! (He was a human being, but that is still a being.) New Mexi [nmt.edu]
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I don't really understand the purpose of the 'leak' unless it is to show that some people who work with Hillary Clinton have some pretty wacky beliefs. Has anyone been paying attention to politics for the last few decades? This is not startling in any way. Finding evidence of a rational person, without wacky beliefs, involved in politics would be a world shattering revelation.
I can tell you what this is all about:
For whatever you think about the Clintons, they (both Bill and Hillary) do seem genuinely interested in the topic of UFOs. It is Bill Clinton, as President, that pressured the Air Force and Joint Chiefs and Congress and anyone he could pressure to come clean about Roswell, which prompted the Gummint to "declassify" the Project Mogul documents, and (supposedly) re-examine the Roswell crash "afresh".
So, I assume that the guy from Blink 182 knew that, and thought he wo
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Thanks,
That is interesting to know.
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On the contrary, we now know...it really was aliens!!! Surely you can see this also proves all the other off-the-cuff conspiracy theories made up in the past decade. Say goodbye to your precious bodily fluids!
All the small things (Score:2)
Welp, that does it. (Score:2)
Guess I'll have to vote for the Cheeto Messiah.
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It ain't easy being cheesy
If you search one's trashcan you will find junk (Score:5, Insightful)
Publishing one's mailbox content, it is no surprise to find junk.
Thus I am not surprised a political figure in need for more funding is receiving frivolous solicitations from a person with questionable mental health. And guess what, when a public political figure has to smile and be kind with all ppl, even those that are disturbingly ill. This is even more important if your are in need for funding.
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Publishing one's mailbox content, it is no surprise to find junk.
Thus I am not surprised a political figure in need for more funding is receiving frivolous solicitations from a person with questionable mental health. And guess what, when a public political figure has to smile and be kind with all ppl, even those that are disturbingly ill. This is even more important if your are in need for funding.
It's not frivolous. Podesta is a long time UFO nut. In fact he even publicly swore once to release UFO information the government has if he held public office.
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This isn't junk at all. If you go back to Julian Assange's previous announcement:
So, here's Wikileaks October Surprise. Hillary and her campaign staff are ignoring the alien invasion! The Lunar Ambassador is calling for help, and Hillary is ignoring him! Just as she's
In closely related news... (Score:2)
METV just started airing the X-Files from the beginning.
Doesn't explain? Yes it does (Score:5, Insightful)
he former lead singer of Blink 182, Tom DeLonge, has publicly admitted to his obsession with UFOs -- but that still doesn't explain why he was sending two cryptic messages about alien spacecrafts to Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta
Whadyamean, it doesn't explain it? It explains it perfectly. He's obsessed with UFOs.
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I'm obsessed with UFOs. It's kind of an issue in my house. I'll start to watch a UFO documentary on Netflix and and without fail I get too pissed off to finish it. Sure, it's a given that the filmmaker is a nut or a charlatan, but I keep hoping that for once it'll be a better class of nut or charlatan. It's the utter lack of originality that I find so depressing. I mean we're talking about putative contact with a superior alien civilization, something that if it were true would make the world even more
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Yes, Much the same here.
Every few months I will sit down with one in the hopes that "This will be different.." I seldom finish one.
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Oh that's simple. If you wanted to know about an Unidentified Flying Object that may not be from the Sol system, wouldn't you want to try to get into contact with our friends the lizard people to see if they know what it is?
I mean, that's what a UFO is. It's merely unidentified. (And also flying. And an object.) The lizard person mothership in orbit may be cloaked, but it's not a UFO.
If Star Trek has taught me anything, they certainly must have had an adventure or two on the trip over from Thuban! I m
So are Kang and Kodos. . . (Score:2)
. . . .impersonating our major party candidates AGAIN [youtube.com] ??
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. . .
SubjectsInCommentsAreStupidCauseTheSubjectIsTFA (Score:2)
Tom says 5 words on What's my Age Again... (Score:3)
...silly. He does have horrible live performances on the guitar, but he definitely doesn't sing that song. That song is all Mark (the bassist) except the chorus, which is sang in chorus (sorry) by both Mark and Tom. I just wanted to bring some sense to this senseless article is all.
For scientific completion, Tom says exactly 23 words of the chorus, roughly a third of the entire chorus words, 1/5 of the chorus duration:
Now, on the very next album song, Tom does sing some amazing wordsmith quotes like "He's a player, diarrhea giver". We can all assume that and his likely "abuse of substance" are very good credentials for someone stating anything about the paranormal.
Illiteracy (Score:2)
The plural of spacecraft is spacecraft, chump.
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No, spacecrafts is correct: aliens macrame their pressure suits, and their star charts are macaroni pictures.
October Suprise? (Score:2)
So this is the much-anticipated Wikileaks October Surprise? UFO emails from Blink 182? Julian needs to up his game and give us something just a tad more significant, like maybe Hillary's dry cleaning list or some of her Nigerian 401 spam.
The have always had alien themes (Score:2)
Consider "Aliens Exist" form probably their most popular album "Enema of the State"
Hey mom there's something in the backroom
Hope it's not the creatures from above
You used to read me stories
As if my dreams were boring
We all know conspiracies are dumb
What if people knew that these were real
I'd leave my closet door open all night
I know the CIA would say
What you hear is all hearsay
I wish someone would tell me what was right
Up all night long
And there's something very wrong
And I know it must be late
Been gone sinc
Yeah, yeah, I get it. (Score:2)
Slashdot is big on Privacy but let's face it, if you send whack-job email to a public figure it may leak and embarrass you. So this guy really has nothing to complain about.
Drugs are bad (Score:2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Comments overridden by "shitty" (Score:2)
This is ridiculous. Why allow such bias towards someone's musicianship when you're posting an article about something completely different? The comments are plagued now, very little to do with the topic of UFOs or whatever the fuck it was. I don't remember, I saw "shitty guitar riffs" and got agitated and wanted to post a comment rebuking it. Fucking Slashdot, get it together. I've been on since the year 2000 and this blatant editorial nonsense in an otherwise "News for Nerds" story just makes you look like
Smoking gun links Putin with Trump (Score:2)
http://secondnexus.com/politic... [secondnexus.com]
DeLonge working with General McCasland? (Score:2)
Can 'General McCasland' corroborate DeLonges story?
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Shitty musicians.
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Wait! I see it all now, Hillary and Trump are REALLY Kang and Kodos. Dont vote for the wrong lizard. You know it makes sense.
Kodos2016