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Canadian Government Lobbies Europe To Pass CETA (freezenet.ca) 69

Dangerous_Minds writes: The Canadian government isn't just siding with the controversial Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). Justin Trudeau is also actively lobbying Europe to try and pass the Comprehensive economic and Trade Agreement (CETA). Freezenet points out that the agreement contains many provisions including a three strikes law and website blocking.
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Canadian Government Lobbies Europe To Pass CETA

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    Please pass the reichsermachtigungsgesetz. Kind regards, canadia, already ruled by corporations. Companies protect europe from muslim terrorists setting european parlament on fire. All hail godwin.

  • Apparently the sticky point that is holding up the deal is the tariff on maple syrup.
    • by Minupla ( 62455 )
      Probably worried about our stategic reserve [theatlantic.com]. Seriously though, laugh if you want, but maple syrup is worth ~50x as much as oil per barrel. It's big business in Quebec and Vermont. Min
      • Probably worried about our stategic reserve [theatlantic.com].

        Seriously though, laugh if you want, but maple syrup is worth ~50x as much as oil per barrel. It's big business in Quebec and Vermont.

        Min

        In 2010 Quebec produced about 8 million gallons and Vermont did about 1 million gallons. New Brunswick did about 200,000 gallons but, in my opinion, it's the best maple syrup you can buy.

        Vermont maple syrup just doesn't cut it, it just doesn't have the robust flavor and tastes lighter. Maine maple syrup is similar to New Brunswick maple syrup (it should be, they border each other) and is what I buy when I run out.

  • ITYM CETAA. Sorry.

  • by ADRA ( 37398 ) on Friday January 29, 2016 @02:00PM (#51397315)

    Just like the old boss. People voted for a party who's interests have been well known to side with big business, so there's zero surprise here. For the uninformed, the 'party' rules the individual representatives much tighter than say the US where its common to vote against/abstain from voting on ballot measures against one's personal (or representative) interests.

    • To be completely fair, the Cons were selling us out just as fast. The thing that really pisses me off is that people still voted for a party that was pro-TPP and pro-C51. This shit had seriously better not pass, but we all know it will... once this shit hits this level, it's pretty much already signed.
  • Justin Trudeau (Score:3, Insightful)

    by roman_mir ( 125474 ) on Friday January 29, 2016 @02:03PM (#51397327) Homepage Journal

    Ha ha ha ha ha, Justin Trudeau, the so called 'liberal'. He'll legalise your pot and he will oppress you in every other way imaginable.

    • by Prune ( 557140 )
      But, but... muh "sunny ways"! Trudeau kept saying that! Oh, wait, he stole that phrase from Wilfrid Laurier, one of Canada's greatest statesmen (Trudeau himself, on the other hand, we can just hope isn't one of the worst)
    • Actually he's already backpedalling on the legalising pot thing.

      I'm not worried though, because the budget will balance itself, and there's a level of admiration for China because of their basic dictatorship.

      I don't want to live in this country any more, but the US isn't much better with 'bama. :(

      • TPP was already proceeding with conservatives so nothing changes, he just finished the job. The benefits are highly in Canada's advantage because Canada is already importing a hi percentage of good from other countries. What happens now is that the goods other countries need become more affordable due to the removal of high importation fees.

        Only time will tell if it's as beneficial as it looks on paper.

        FYI, I happen to know a food manufacturer that had 2 big deals pending on this trade deal going forward.

        • Re: Justin Trudeau (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Altrag ( 195300 ) on Friday January 29, 2016 @04:48PM (#51398747)

          Heh if these were just trade deals, that wouldn't be a problem.

          Unfortunately what we're "trading" is our freedom, especially in the realm of copyright. CETA (and TPP and basically every other "trade" agreement you've heard of in the past decade and who knows how many you haven't heard of) give us just enough carrot that we'll brave the stick, while everyone politely overlooks the shotgun in the corner.

          • I see it as a step towards better globalization. Someone has to take a step towards this and Canada is willing to sacrifice itself for it. The global economy is real and trying to keep it out will keep you out of it. China isn't the underpriced labor market it was 15 years ago. I just came back from a conference in Florida and I got to speak to a few companies manufacturing products in China. The gap isn't 10 fold anymore. China is actually starting to buy from other countries and that is what Canada wants

      • by Curtman ( 556920 ) *
        Backpedalling how? They've been very consistent actually.
    • This was actually one of the key reasons I didn't vote for him (well, his party). The Conservatives were worse in a lot of ways (they support CETA as well, but all sorts of other nasty stuff) and had a history of building oppression (G2 summit police overreach, muzzling scientists etc), but looking at how the parties voted the Libs and the Cons were both very much in the pro-surveillance anti-privacy camp. In this case it's the lesser of two evils between the two, but the third party (NDP) voted pretty soli

    • He's actually already taken a hard stand on many issues /. users are constantly nagging politicians avoid.

      Don't forget that liberals in Canada are center-left, not left.

      • by Altrag ( 195300 )

        Also don't forget that these are massive deals that have been many years in the making (probably years before anyone even heard of them given how secretive they are) and that there's a lot of people in government that don't get changed out at election time. There's a lot of pressure both from internal and international sources against pulling out at the last minute.

        I mean I obviously have no idea what Trudeau's personal opinion is on these trade deals, but trying to blame a decade-in-the-making gong show o

        • I doubt Trudeau was against this otherwise they would have used it at ammunition during the election campaign. The TTP was in the news before the federal election campaign began in 2015.

          Trudeau wasn't my choice at election time but I must say I'm happy with his ability to leverage his team's knowledge instead of bullying it into thinking like him.

          • by Altrag ( 195300 )

            They did to a degree, but when it came to freedom-destroying election issues, the parties pretty much focused on our very own C51.

            The TPP was mentioned here and there, though more with respect to the secret courts (aka sell your sovereignty to the highest non-domestic bidder) than copyright.

            Supposedly Trudeau's cabinet was going to "review" the TPP, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. I can't imagine they did anything thorough in the amount of time they've been in power -- the treaty text is just to

    • by Livius ( 318358 )

      "Liberal" is their brand-name, not their ideology. They just don't bother correcting people who mix the two up, because only misinformed voters are the ones who vote for them.

      Sadly the same strategy as every other political party in Canada.

  • These big treaties coming out lately like TPP TTIP ACTA CETA have nothing to do with fair trade or tarriffs and everything to do with corporations bypassing national legal systems to put in place permanent laws that benefit them but certainly not the consumer or the environment or public services etc.

    Well over 3 million signatures against TTIP and CETA so far:
    https://stop-ttip.org/ [stop-ttip.org]

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