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Full Text of Trans-Pacific Partnership Released (Officially, This Time) (mfat.govt.nz) 247

EmagGeek writes: The full text of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, or TPP, has been officially released, and is available for the public to see. According to CNN, The TPP is a 12-nation deal that touches on 40% of the global economy. The provisions of the deal would knock down tariffs and import quotas, making it cheaper to import and export, and open new Asia-Pacific markets. Negotiations have been going on for years, led by the United States and Japan — with China conspicuously absent from the list of signees.
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Full Text of Trans-Pacific Partnership Released (Officially, This Time)

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  • This is fantastic. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by gavron ( 1300111 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @10:42AM (#50870299)

    I once went on a date where the girl said "I am going to set everything up. It will be a surprise. You'll like it! Don't try to guess what's going to happen!"

    It was a great time!

    The TTP is almost like that. We don't know what's coming until it does; we all get fucked; big pharma and big media have a great time.

    E

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Can anyone shed some light on this warning from Eric Raymond about social justice honeytraps at tech conferences [ibiblio.org]?

      Is there any basis to these allegations?

      Is it true that Linus himself has been targeted by these groups?

      What the hell is going on here, and why isn't this front-page news on Slashdot?

    • by Pseudonymous Powers ( 4097097 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @10:54AM (#50870385)

      we all get fucked; big pharma and big media have a great time.

      So the TPP is all about movies, drugs, and sex that one partner enjoys way more than the other? Say, that really does sound like a date!

      • by gstoddart ( 321705 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @11:19AM (#50870555) Homepage

        So the TPP is all about movies, drugs, and sex that one partner enjoys way more than the other?

        Sure, if you mean using date rape drugs and filming it ... because that's pretty much what this stupid deal is doing to us.

        It's a grab bag of stuff from the wishlist of multinational corporations, pushed through by people who are more beholden to corporate profits than their own citizens, and largely written by the industries it benefits.

        Mark my words, this really is just more "race to the bottom" crap, and won't benefit citizens.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      we all get fucked; big pharma and big media have a great time

      Pretty much this.

      This agreement is mostly about giving corporations a wish list of things which in general won't benefit citizens.

      Because America are so fucking beholden to corporate interests they're pretty much fucking over the world to benefit multinational corporations. Stupid shit like being able to sue governments if they don't like how a law impacts them.

      Thanks, assholes, for letting your corrupt politicians on the payroll of corporations

      • You're welcome? It's not like we (citizens) have any say in what our government does. That's the greatest illusion in history. Federal elections are decided by who has the most money from "Special interests". Local and state government elections are all about who you know (read: money changing hands) And we all hoot and rave about how democracy is great and we're free. We are free to do as THEY say. We have the right to get our property taken by them, we have the right to expect no real privacy, we have the
        • by Zak3056 ( 69287 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @12:59PM (#50871323) Journal

          You're welcome? It's not like we (citizens) have any say in what our government does. That's the greatest illusion in history. Federal elections are decided by who has the most money from "Special interests".

          The older I get, the more I reject that notion. Sure, the media is manipulating you and election season is a three ring circus, and yes, there is undoubtedly election fraud that nudges things a bit, but in the end, the people still vote, and the people elect the government they deserve. Everyone pretty much agrees with YOUR statement, "special interests blah blah blah" but upwards of 90% of you (at least the ones that vote) KEEP VOTING FOR THE SAME PEOPLE! What the fuck do you expect is going to happen?

          Douglas Adams summed the situation up really well in So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish:

          “On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people.”

          “Odd,” said Arthur, “I thought you said it was a democracy.”

          “I did,” said Ford. “It is.”

          “So,” said Arthur, hoping he wasn’t sounding ridiculously obtuse, “why don’t the people get rid of the lizards?”

          “It honestly doesn’t occur to them,” said Ford. “They’ve all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they’ve voted in more or less approximates to the government they want.”

          “You mean they actually vote for the lizards?”

          “Oh yes,” said Ford with a shrug, “of course.”

          “But,” said Arthur, going for the big one again, “why?”

          “Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard,” said Ford, “the wrong lizard might get in.”

          • by zlives ( 2009072 )

            i think the real culprit is the concept of winning.
            no one wants to vote for a candidate that will lose. Bernie is a perfect example for the dems, most dems like him but think he will lose so they will vote for Hank so Hank can then beat Bubba and then they can say yayyyy we won.

          • The older I get, the more I reject that notion. Sure, the media is manipulating you and election season is a three ring circus, and yes, there is undoubtedly election fraud that nudges things a bit, but in the end, the people still vote, and the people elect the government they deserve. Everyone pretty much agrees with YOUR statement, "special interests blah blah blah" but upwards of 90% of you (at least the ones that vote) KEEP VOTING FOR THE SAME PEOPLE! What the fuck do you expect is going to happen?

            D

            • The problem with the US elections has nothing to do with money (at least not directly) or whether people are capable of deciding who to vote for.

              I'll prove it with this statement ... why don't you run for office???

              I'll wait while you form a response ....

              I'll bet the reasons fell into either it doesn't interest you, you can't afford to take the time off, you don't want the public scrutiny, you don't think you could get elected, you are too busy, or a ton of other reasons.

              Which is why we basically have dedica

              • by KGIII ( 973947 )

                I'll prove it with this statement ... why don't you run for office???

                I am. I'm running for State Senate in 2016.

          • by tnk1 ( 899206 )

            The major problem is that when I go to vote, I have a few choices on the ballot. Some I think suck less than others, but no way to vote for the sort of person I'd like to be in office.

            Yes, I can write-in sometimes, but that is almost literally pissing into the wind. If there are other candidates from independent parties, they tend to be bugshit insane in some way.

            We vote for the same people because they're the same people on the ballot. Even with a largish primary field like the Republicans have, there's

            • by KGIII ( 973947 )

              I have been, effectively, throwing my vote away for about 40 years. I vote for a third party candidate or write one in, almost without exception. Good God, half the people I vote for would be horrific if they were elected! I vote third party, not because I want them to win. I vote because I know that there's someone compiling statistics and that if enough of us do it then they'll eventually notice and pander to those of us who want more than two choices. Hell, I've voted for Nader!

    • Your analogy is only partly valid because the so-called 'full text' may not the the real full text !

      They have been cheating us for so long, what is there to keep them from cheating us just a little bit longer?

    • I once went on a date where the girl said "I am going to set everything up. ...

      It was a great time!

      we all get fucked;

      Sounds like quite an evening.

      big pharma

      Sounds like an evening that would be hard to remember.

      and big media have a great time.

      And now it sounds like an evening that you'd rather forget. Pornhub link?

      • Negotiations have been going on for years, led by the United States and Japan — with China conspicuously absent from the list of signee

        One might almost view this as a partnership between all the non-china countries on the pacific rim to compete with the growing Chinese economy. While it is good for corporations, it reduces economic friction (tariffs, etc.) and makes it easier for everyone to compete with them. I am not sure that I am for this agreement, but I can see why it might have been created.
    • Here's the difference between a hot girl and Big Pharma,Media, Corporations et al ...

      TPP is like being promised the hot girl, and getting fucked in your virgin ass by a bunch of well hung dudes.

  • Poor New Zealand, currently under cyberattack. Downloaded the first 1.6MB of the zip files fine, struggled for the next .4MB, and then proceeded to terminate the connection.

    I wonder if that attack was part of the TPP deal.

    • by jandrese ( 485 )
      It's the internet, you can't put the genie back in the bottle. Here is a mirror [ceyah.org] if you're having trouble. I can re-compress it if necessary to get around content aware filtering.
  • by john.r.strohm ( 586791 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @10:44AM (#50870313)

    There is something fundamentally wrong when the "most open administration in history" has to let New Zealand publish the document, rather than posting it themselves.

    There is something fundamentally suspicious when there is no all-up posting made. You have to download a rather large number of chunks to get the whole thing.

    Why do I get the feeling that someone is STILL trying to hide something?

    • by cdrudge ( 68377 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @10:48AM (#50870339) Homepage

      There is something fundamentally suspicious when there is no all-up posting made. You have to download a rather large number of chunks to get the whole thing.

      Or you could just download the zip file [mfat.govt.nz] of all the chapters that is at the bottom of the page.

      • by Crowd Computing ( 4269575 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @12:09PM (#50870941)
        Or you can focus on the file containing the topic likely to be of most interest to Slashdot readers: intellectual property [mfat.govt.nz]. A quick search through the chapter turned up the following section on the public domain:

        Article 18.15: Public Domain
        1. The Parties recognise the importance of a rich and accessible public domain.
        2. The Parties also acknowledge the importance of informational materials, such as publicly accessible databases of registered intellectual property rights that assist in the identification of subject matter that has fallen into the public domain.

        The agreement merely asks countries to "recognise" [sic] and "acknowledge" the importance of the public domain. This contrasts with the provisions on copyright and patents, which demand compliance in many instances, including the following example on "Criminal Procedures and Penalties" (Art. 18.77):

        Each Party shall provide for criminal procedures and penalties to be applied at least in cases of wilful trademark counterfeiting or copyright or related rights piracy on a commercial scale.

        The definition of "commercial scale" is particularly troubling: "significant acts, not carried out for commercial advantage or financial gain, that have a substantial prejudicial impact on the interests of the copyright or related rights holder in relation to the marketplace."

        • by bigpat ( 158134 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @03:10PM (#50872343)

          The agreement merely asks countries to "recognise" [sic] and "acknowledge" the importance of the public domain. This contrasts with the provisions on copyright and patents, which demand compliance in many instances, including the following example on "Criminal Procedures and Penalties" (Art. 18.77):

          That hits the nail on the head... All the parts that screw people over are iron clad, specified to the extreme while all the consumer, labor, environmental protections are all fluffy piles of bull shit wrapped in language you could drive a truck full of slaves through to their coal fired baby seal killing factory.

  • by pecosdave ( 536896 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @11:09AM (#50870485) Homepage Journal

    Do you want to outlaw something traded under this agreement in your own country?
    Nope! Your government will be tried in an international court!

    Want to legalize something not legal in this agreement or buy it from a supplier not under the agreement while one who is under it sells it at a higher price?
    Nope! Your government will be tried in an international court!

    Trade is only the excuse for this agreement. Just like the patriot act and affordable care act specifics are so vague it to allow any interpretation desired by those who head up the agreement. It's also structures in such a way that nations not complying with changes afterward will be punished. This is not an "agreement" as it's called, it's a treaty. Notice corporation wrote most of it.

    This is the official handing over of the government to corporations. It's been happening in practice, but that pesky constitution and balance of powers occasionally gets in the way. This is the bypass for it.

    If you DON'T bully your representatives, beg, plead and even threaten them to keep this from passing we're all going to be part of the "expanded EU".

    • Do you want to outlaw something traded under this agreement in your own country?
      Nope! Your government will be tried in an international court!

      It's not even a court. It's an ad-hoc panel that consists of private lawyers. Worse: very expensive lawyers that spend most of their time representing parties in front of similar panels. They can even rule over complaints filed by parties that they have previously represented.

      I would strongly recommend to read the analysis of ISDS by the European Economic and Social Committee [europa.eu], as it appears in CETA (a TPP-style agreement between the EU and Canada that is now also in the ratification phase). It contains a lot of interesting information and citations of other documents.

    • Do you want to outlaw something traded under this agreement in your own country?
      Nope! Your government will be tried in an international court!

      You seem to be trying to complain about one of the very few good aspects of this agreement.

      • I agree with you on this one - to a degree.

        The goal of this treaty is to central world government - even if it's not outright stated. In general I'm against outlawing most anything, but that dictate shouldn't come from a different bunch of control freaks. In general I'm for as decentralized power as we can get. The whole idea of tiered government instead of monolithic is when decisions are made locally you know exactly who to nab at the grocery store so you can tar and feather them in the parking lot. I

        • I agree with you there, but I don't have any problem whatsoever with a government, at any level, agreeing not to commit acts of tyranny over any of its citizens—even if a majority of its citizens are in favor of such acts. Even if it does come at the behest of big, bad multinational corporations, in this one rare instance the TPP has the effect of enhancing the sovereignty of individual citizens over all the levels of government that would try to rule them.

          • The problem is when a big multi-national treaty imposes tyranny is has the same effect you're praising - in reverse.

            • "The same effect ... in reverse." You mean the opposite effect? Empowering governments—and thus, indirectly, the corporations they represent—at the expense of individual citizens?

              I think I made it clear that I think most of TPP is awful. Since they insisted that it be pass/fail via the fast-track process, I think that it should be unceremoniously rejected. Even without that, I doubt it could be amended into anything worth passing. However, any government giving up the power to make a product or

      • by AK Marc ( 707885 )
        So if Peru makes Cocaine legal and tries to export it to Singapore, Singapore would need to change its laws to allow cocaine? How is that a good thing for Singapore?
    • I wish more people understood it the way you do. In the USA, the law is that Congress cannot bind a future Congress to enact any particular policy. This is an end-run around this law by those who want to permanently cement their place at the top of the pyramid.

      By the way, Trump and Sanders both oppose TPP. Clinton was for it before she was against it ::ducks::

      • Ted Cruz scares me - he was also for it because he was against it. He's done too much flip-flopping for me to be comfortable with him. I honestly believe the members of the Republican party that are libertarians trying to bring the party in line with freedom are a good thing. Rand Paul, his father before him, there's a couple of others. Cruz scares me because he looks like one of that bunch - but does stupid crap on occasion that makes me think he's a poser, and he's got a more solid following than a lo

      • So, Clinton may have favored it, learned more about it, and decided against it? Here at Slashdot, I'd expect people to be more sympathetic towards changing minds.

        Also, it's a treaty according to the Constitution when ratified by two-thirds of the Senate, not otherwise. It can be passed into law by a majority vote in both houses plus a Presidential signature, but that is US law and not an international commitment. There may be a reluctance to repeal it, but there's no legal reason why Congress couldn't

    • by AK Marc ( 707885 )
      No treaty is unbreakable. You don't lose sovereignty. The government can break a treaty, then wouldn't be required to show up in international court.

      Treaties are above all law, other than the Constitution. You can't end-run around the Constitution, but a treaty can give more power to the government, in direct violation of the 10th Amendment, But the Supreme Court has ruled that the 9th and 10th Amendments are legally void, vague and redundant.
      • How long has it been since the president or congress has given a shit about the 4th, 9th, or 10th?

        How long has it been since the supreme court actually respected the 9th or 10th in a ruling?

        Ever single regulatory agency in existence is an end run around the 9th and 10th. As long as the people in power are the ones placed by the corporate interest that want this treaty then we will have this treaty. After this treaty has been in place 15 or so years it will be so concrete it will be next to impossible to g

  • by xxxJonBoyxxx ( 565205 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @11:11AM (#50870493)

    That usually works out well, right?

  • by liquid_schwartz ( 530085 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @11:38AM (#50870687)
    Remember that only 2 people are against this: Trump and Sanders. The Clinton's gave us NAFTA and fully supported this agreement as the gold standard. The Republicans always push for "free trade". For the sake of yourselves and your children vote either Trump or Sanders. If it weren't for "free trade" we'd all be making approximately double what we are now as shown here:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/bus... [theatlantic.com]

    or here:

    http://www.epi.org/blog/inequa... [epi.org]

    • by bluefoxlucid ( 723572 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @11:43AM (#50870737) Journal
      Protectionism is a good way to make an economy poor. People have this ideal that they'll make twice as much salary and have a bigger piece of the pie, except they don't realize the pie just gets smaller.
      • by DarkOx ( 621550 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @12:41PM (#50871185) Journal

        On the domestic scale sure on the international scale not always the case. What you have said has been in the economics text books so long most people accept it uncritically but it fails to consider the long term effects of trade imbalances.

        Generally with a nation as large and divers as ours with an array of resources as vast as ours one would be tempted to think trade imbalances could not occur but they do. The problem the free traders consistently fail to deal with is that the economies of our trading partners are not in many cases as market oriented as our own and our own economy is not really a true open market anymore either. The rules over and above the enforcement of private property rights create opportunities to game the system and so the system gets gamed.

        If we were to:
        Drop the new Obamacare employer mandates
        Drop the individual mandate
        Drop all payroll and corporate taxes
        Replace income taxes with a flat tax
        Either rollback health/safety and environmental protections -or- restrict trade to nations with comparable regulation and enforcement

        Then we could have free trade with the remaining partners. Otherwise the ability to game the system is always going to temp people to shop the market the imposes the least penalty for the negative externalizes of whatever it is they do and lowest cost labor while still selling the output of that production into the more lucrative American market and enjoying the gifts of our society themselves. Their will be a net outflow of wealth until the US reaches nearer equilibrium in terms of median personal wealth with the rest of the world. I know there are many on the left of the political graph who think there is Justice in that, and may influencers on the Right side who don't care because they are 1%ers doing the gaming and don't care what happens to the rest of us.

        Personally I'd rather the USA stay the worlds richest nation! That is almost certain to be whats best for me, my family, and my friends. I have no desire to try and hold any other nation down or prevent the expansion of the middle class around the world. Good luck to them, but I see no reason we need to give away what's ours to enable that. Now some lefties are going to return to say we unfairly came by what we have. Yes okay maybe if you want to say we took the land from the Natives, but other than that no not really if you look at the whole of those situations and the alternatives.

        • by TheSync ( 5291 )

          What you have said has been in the economics text books so long most people accept it uncritically but it fails to consider the long term effects of trade imbalances.

          So what are the long term effects of trade imbalances? The US has had a trade deficit with the world for 35 years, yet we still are the center of global entrepreneurism, have plenty of massive global companies like Google, continue to increase our manufacturing output, and have high growth rates and low unemployment rates in comparison with mo

          • The US has had a trade deficit with the world for 35 years...

            Coincidentally the middle class has been declining for roughly the same time. Also unless you are completely unaware of history you will note that workers now put in *far* more hours than they use to. Why is that? Race to the bottom. If China et al are willing to put in more time than so should we. Ultimately we can have a happier lifestyle via protectionism or we can sink to the lowest standards the planet has to offer. Regarding economists and free trade, you know full well economists have contrived

          • Nobody knows that stuff because economics is based on the idea of value, rather than wealth. They even measure productivity in dollars; economics theories are all targeted at predicting the shelf price of goods and services, not the state of an economy.
        • The economics textbooks are based in incorrect theory.

          Productivity forms the basis of wealth economics. Everything requires human labor to produce; we can mitigate this by many factors, ranging from advanced techniques (technology: the science of improved techniques) to simply finding an available limited supply.

          For example: humans can produce gold by producing electricity and using that to run a fusor to convert vaporized lead base metal ions to gold by fusion with hydrogen; this requires so much la

        • by AK Marc ( 707885 )
          Repeal the 16th in an amendment that allows for a national sales tax, but leaves in revenue tax for corporations, as well as a land tax on the states (not the people within them) and a head tax on the states (not the people within them).

          The original idea was that the states would tax, but the feds wouldn't. Instead the fed would essentially charge the states for the cost of them. This was well tied in with the idea that senators were selected by the states, not the people within.

          Personally I'd rather the USA stay the worlds richest nation!

          Too late. Sure, some o

          • by DarkOx ( 621550 )

            I am small government conservative and I don't hate those ideas. You are correct about the tax the states plan being the original assumption about how the Federal Government was to be funded. The trouble is the Civil War happened! For good or ill (mostly ill IMHO) one of the things that came out of that is people started seeing the USA as a single entity rather than a group of member states.

            Americans are already upset about the economic disparities that exist today. What say West Virgina look like witho

    • For the sake of yourselves and your children vote either Trump...

      The world has officially gone to hell. We just don't notice it because of air-conditioning..

    • Take a gander through all the foreign nationals and governments that have laundered thinly veiled bribes through the Clinton Foundation.

  • No coincidence (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    You know what else is in the Pacific?

    R'lyeh.

    Chew on that for a bit. It's happening.
  • Vote trump to kill this job killing bill.

    And not only will this kill us jobs it will also cut off cheap med's as well and then add the GOP 2016 health insurance plan. Now jail / priosin is looking good for people who are job less and need a DR.

    • by cfalcon ( 779563 )

      Will this thing seriously hit the desk of any president except this one? Also note that your best bet to actually stop TPP is to get your representative and senators on board with voting against it. The "fast track" means that Congress can't try to amend or change it in any way, giving them go / no-go vote on it whenever it comes to vote (now that the draft is public, I would assume this will occur as fast as they can to minimize the time for the mainstream media to report it as anything but a "trade deal

  • Yearlong secrecy, closed doors, only some "chosen few" have a say and can vote... as it appears. What really is going on, nobody knows but one can only guess who will be benefiting from all that stuff.

    Late capitalism symptoms, assets are accumulated on certain layers of entities developing their own laws and procedures ballooning even more.

    Are actions performed benefiting the general population as a whole - hardly. Common sense actions are prevented and converted to serve those new laws in use harming inst

  • by andrewa ( 18630 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @12:34PM (#50871135)
    I'm as likely to read this as I am a typical EULA, and likely to get just as fucked either way...
  • I know of no agreement that, while increasing profitability while impoverishing people. I am trying to parse through this. and see what implications there are.

  • Includes not only Bernie, Hillary, Warren, Unions, and Environmentalists; but some Conservatives are referring to it as "Obamatrade". Not quite ringing support from the Conservatives. The overall vote might be dicey if the Dems and independents abandon Obama and pick up a modicum amount of support from the Republicans.

  • Has anyone confirmed the previously leaked text against this official one? Do I need to re-read it if I already read it when it was leaked?

  • "and open new Asia-Pacific markets" ... to the massive manufacturing juggernaut that is the United States Of America.

    Too soon, after the Detroit bankruptcy? My bad...

  • 6,000 pages is ridiculous, how is anybody supposed to fully understand and agree to that. It is just a way hide important detail in a ocean of boredom.

    • by AK Marc ( 707885 )
      You just grep for the piece you are intersted in, and nobody understands it all, especially those voting for it.
    • by bigpat ( 158134 )

      6,000 pages is ridiculous, how is anybody supposed to fully understand and agree to that. It is just a way hide important detail in a ocean of boredom.

      Took years to even negotiate, but they want congress to just rubber stamp it. How about this... as soon as every congressman is able to pass a comprehensive test detailing the bills text, then they can be allowed to vote on this.

  • by WOOFYGOOFY ( 1334993 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @02:06PM (#50871877)

    This is such an over-reach, especially the intellectual property parts, it's going to lead to mass civil disobedience in the form of a fundamental attitudinal shift from one of basically respecting the law to one of basically disrespecting it *on the part of everyone* including society's intellectuals, academics and cultural leaders.

    That's the deeper danger of this kind of law making, not to mention the content of the law itself. It leads to contempt for the law, contempt for Congress , the Executive and the Judiciary. Contempt leads to mass, defacto civil disobedience where ignoring or subverting the law becomes the norm, as in the days of prohibition.

    How is this good for the country?
     

    • What, in the IP section, is worse than treaties and statutes that are already US law? There hasn't been mass civil disobedience (there has been massive lawbreaking, but that's not the same thing) over those.

      • What, in the IP section, is worse than treaties and statutes that are already US law? There hasn't been mass civil disobedience (there has been massive lawbreaking, but that's not the same thing) over those.

        It mandates ISP monitoring and reporting, because since RIAA and MPAA can't figure out how to do it, they figure the ISPs should have to work as unpaid employees to figure it out for them.

        The reporting part means your ISP is no longer a common carrier, because they are required to tattle on people specifically.

        It transfers said information without a warrant or court order.

        Technically, this was designed to enforce copyright in NZ and Australia, and is basically a ratification of some of the things that Telst

  • by PhantomHarlock ( 189617 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @02:18PM (#50871973)

    New Zealand's tariff elimination schedule is pretty straight forward. It shows what it currently is and what it will be up to 7 years out (most are completely eliminated the first year.)

    On the US's schedule, it lists the "base rate" which I assume is what it is right now sans TPP, and then columns representing the other countries, which all say "EIF". Does anyone know what that stands for? Does that mean that for those countries the tariff is eliminated completely?

  • by PhantomHarlock ( 189617 ) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @02:24PM (#50872037)

    Another question. Does anyone know if the TPP eliminates the chicken tax [wikipedia.org] for participating countries?

    I did not find any mention of it in the US Motor Vehicle Trade document [mfat.govt.nz] that is part of the TPP documents.

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