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Kerry Blows Red Sox Stats, Again, and Again 180

Posted by pudge from the sox>president dept.
This week John Kerry twice messed up the Red Sox playoff scores, in one game proclaiming them to be ahead 10-9, in another 7-1. The Sox never had 10 runs in the first game (they went from 9 to 11 on Mark Bellhorn's two-run homer off the right field foul pole), and scored six in the second (see footballfansfortruth.us for more info). For those of you who are not Boston-area natives, you might not understand that Red Sox loyalty is far greater than political loyalty, and while this might not cause anyone to vote for Bush, it might make Kerry voters stay home. Worse, many Red Sox fans have vowed to see the Sox win a World Series before they die, so tens of thousands of Kerry voters could die before November 2. Of course, this won't affect Massachusetts, Vermont, or Rhode Island, and probably not Maine, but New Hampshire is a possibility.
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  • This is lame. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by DylanQuixote ( 538987 ) <dylan@@@hardison...net> on Tuesday October 26, 2004 @12:24PM (#10632444) Homepage
    This... is lame. God I can't wait 'til the election is over, and the pro-kerry and pro-bush supporters stop taking drugs....
    • You mean start taking drugs. I personally am buying stock in an anti-depressant and a tranquilizer stock on November 1. :)
      • I personally am buying stock in an anti-depressant and a tranquilizer stock on November 1.

        Ah, but what if the winner starts allowing Canadian drugs to be imported?

        • Re:This is brain dead. (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Oliver Wendell Jones ( 158103 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2004 @01:54PM (#10633442)
          I know you're joking here, but...

          Where do most of those Canadian drugs come from? The United States.

          The Canadian government meets with US pharmaceutical companies and negotiates price breaks for bulk purchases. The US pharmaceutical companies go along with this because if they don't, then they will sell almost zero quantities to Canada.

          You really think that the US pharmaceutical companies are going to willingly double, triple or even quadruple the amount of pills shipped to Canada in order to meet the needs of US citizens who want to re-import the drugs back to the US?

          If you're allowing the idea of re-imported drugs from Canada to influence your voting choice, you really need to re-think your decision.

  • Finally (Score:5, Insightful)

    by aztektum ( 170569 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2004 @12:25PM (#10632452)
    I'm glad /. is finally showing a non-bias towards the candidates. Especially over such an important issue as this during a time of war, crappy economy, etc.

    Where is the free world headed if we elect a man who can't keep track of baseball scores while trying to win an election?

    • Re:Finally (Score:2, Insightful)

      by displague ( 4438 )
      What kind of crap is this? The man is a little busy at the moment, please forgive him if he slips up a ballgame score. He's got enough numbers to keep straight, what with the past 4 years of economic, employment, and military figures.
      • Pls add these to my original post

      • Re:Finally (Score:5, Funny)

        by _xeno_ ( 155264 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2004 @12:45PM (#10632662) Homepage Journal
        Due to low scores on tests to determine American's abilities to detect sarcasm, we are going to be cutting school's budgets by a total of $2.4 billion. Halliburtin has been awarded a $1.2 billion contract over the course of 4 years to attempt to remedy the problem, by drilling for humor in Alaska.
      • It's funny... Laugh.

      • Re:Finally (Score:3, Funny)

        by sybert ( 192766 )
        If Kerry has enough time to go goose hunting and then use the Red Sox game as an excuse for being too lazy [washingtonpost.com] to carry the goose he supposedly shot, then he should at least be able to get the score correct.

        We know that Kerry is getting all his sports wrong because we are informed about sports. How much do you think Kerry gets wrong [nationalreview.com] about subjects you are not well informed about?

        • just a reminder (Score:5, Insightful)

          by IndependentVik ( 582582 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2004 @04:53PM (#10635634)
          Look, both Bush and Kerry misspeak ALL THE TIME; it's simply the nature of American politics. As a citizen, it's your civic duty to seek out the misstatements of both candidates and determine which has been speaking the more dangerous/egregious misstatements (and, yes, in some cases, outright lies). This means more than just reading the National Review's bashing points of one candidate.

          As for Kerry's goose-hunting, it's a shallow photo-op. He has time for it because he think it'll get him votes, whereas he's probably calculated that following the world series won't give him as much benefit. Don't tell me Bush has never engaged in a shallow photo-op when he should've been running the country.
      • Speaking of the numbers. As a Canadian, I'd like to thank Mr. Bush for great economic policy. [www.ctv.ca] Keep up the good work. See if you can do something about that pesky 2 term rule this time around too.

        Bush for prez!
      • Quit being a Kerry apologist. Say what you want about Howard Dean, at least he was consistant about what his views where. Kerry can't even do that.

  • There are worse things... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by taitertot ( 823964 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2004 @12:25PM (#10632458)
    If Kerry is going to get faulty intelligence, I'd rather it be on baseball scores than on, say, whether a country should be invaded.
    • If Kerry is going to get faulty intelligence, I'd rather it be on baseball scores than on, say, whether a country should be invaded.

      Of course, both sides tell plenty of lies in their ads [theomega.org].
    • And you are assuming that kerry get non-faulty intelligence on everything else? John Kerry skips almost all of his intelligence committee meetings, and gets his faulty intelligence from the NY Times (explosives that were missing before the invasion) and forged documents (Bush's guard records). Kerry was also very much in favor of invading Iraq until we actually did so.
      • explosives that were missing before the invasion

        Date of invasion: March 20

        From BBC news: "AEA Director-General Mohamed ElBaradei passed on the letter from Iraqi authorities informing the agency of the theft to the Security Council. He told the council that the high explosives had been lost after 9 April 2003, during 'the theft and looting of governmental installations'."

        It's also been reported that the stuff was already gone by the time that the troops got there, on the 10th. However, troops actuall

  • Sad for democracy (Score:4, Insightful)

    by gorre ( 519164 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2004 @12:26PM (#10632470) Homepage
    Personally I think it's disgusting that people would change their vote based on how much a candidate knows about a sporting event. Of course it does make Kerry look rather silly if he just pretended to be interested; but on the other hand the fact that candidates feel they must be seen to like baseball is pretty sad (and reflects very badly on the electorate).
    • I completely agree with you, but I think it's important to stress the key issue here.

      Folks wouldn't be changing their vote because he can't keep the score straight. They'd be changing it because he fervently claims to be such a huge fan and supporter of the team while seemingly demonstrating a complete lack of same.

      It's the petty misrepresentation that may swing a few votes (I stress MAY).

    • Re:Sad for democracy (Score:5, Insightful)

      by the morgawr ( 670303 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2004 @12:59PM (#10632822) Homepage Journal
      I would suggest that most Americans vote the candidate they are comfortable with: a guy they could picture sitting in their living room or being married into the family. i.e. Someone they are comfortable with.

      The reason for this is simple, most american's don't have time to read massive amounts of political stuff, so they try to pick a good person who they are confident is generally in line with their way of thinking about things.

      For Kerry if voters are stuck on the perception that he's "faking", it's going to be damn near impossible to win the election. (I'd like to remind you that all of the people on TV and here on slashdot who are deeply concerned about every single issue are the exception instead of the rule).

      • If people that actually care about their country are the exception, then maybe we should have some sort of change in the laws to facilitate getting those uncaring people away from the polls on election day.

        Whether or not he gets the right scores, seeing as he likely was working on his campaign instead of watching the game and got the info from an aide, is the least important thing he can possibly be wrong about.
        • I think you are failing to distinguish caring about the country from desiring to spend the inordinate amount of time required to become truely informed about every issue.

          No candidate is ever going to agree with you on every issue; choosing who to vote for is a matter of priorities and trade-offs. Furthermore, today's issues may not nessessarily be tomorrow's problems. Many people see it as a waste to be fully informed about every candidate and every issue (after all that's why we have representatives inst

      • I would suggest that most Americans vote the candidate they are comfortable with: a guy they could picture sitting in their living room or being married into the family. i.e. Someone they are comfortable with.

        Based on that- no wonder I'm running in 2008- I'm the only guy that I can picture sitting in my living room or being married into my family.
    • Umm, GW Bush used to OWN a Major League team. I don't think he needs to pretend to be interested.

  • Obligatory vulgar reference... (Score:3, Funny)

    by jbarr ( 2233 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2004 @12:26PM (#10632473) Homepage
    ...after reading the title...whew!

  • Next story: Linus misspells 'kernel' in comment (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Neil Blender ( 555885 ) <neilblender@gmail.com> on Tuesday October 26, 2004 @12:35PM (#10632563)
    Linus Torvalds repeatedly misspelled the word 'kernel' in smp.c. Twice he wrote 'kernl' and three times he used 'kernal'. Not being a Slashdot regular, you might not know how important spelling is. This might not move any users to BSD, but it could keep a few nerds from recompiling their kernal until patches are submitted.
    • Not being a Slashdot regular, you might not know how important spelling is.

      Most Slashdot regulars might not know how important spelling is, either.

  • STOP THE PRESSES! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Keith Russell ( 4440 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2004 @12:36PM (#10632576) Journal

    What? John Kerry can't keep his Red Sox scores straight? Well, fuck me gently with a chainsaw! I've clearly been supporting the wrong man all along! How can we possibly expect strong leadership from a man who doesn't watch enough SportsCenter?

    Please. Did it ever occur to anyone that John Kerry might be a little bit busy, considering that there's one week to go before Election Day? Naw, that couldn't be it.

    Here's an idea: After the election, Malda deletes the entire Politics section from production, and burns any backup tape from a date that the Politics section was active. His editorial staff has already proven that they're juvenile half-wits. We didn't need a two-party pissing contest to reinforce it.

    • Please. Did it ever occur to anyone that John Kerry might be a little bit busy, considering that there's one week to go before Election Day?

      The general theme drawn by this website isn't that he makes alot of mistakes, it is that he makes alot of little lies and deceptions concerning Kerry's being down to earth. Kerry is not in touch with the average guy who watches sports, and this is what this website attempts to say, and it seems to provide quite a bit of evidence. John Kerry couldn't care less about

    • If he can't even keep scores straight, what the hell makes you think he can keep the important things straight?

      Look at the NYT 'article' on the missing explosives.

      NBC debunked it last night; Kerry keeps repeating it (ding ding ding...MORON).

      Even on the little things he lies. Earth day, he said he didn't own an SVU. When confronted with the fact the he did indeed own an SVU, he said "his family" owned the SVU.

      The guy's an idiot.

  • Comparison (Score:5, Informative)

    by Skyshadow ( 508 ) * on Tuesday October 26, 2004 @12:41PM (#10632625) Homepage
    Okay, this is a really fucking stupid discussion to be having, but seeing as it's a Tuesday morning and my only other alternative is to actually *work*, allow me to provide a comparison:

    One candidate has messed up the score of the Bosox series a couple of times, keeping in mind that the series is also taking place during the busiest most demanding time of his life.

    The other candidate traded Sammy Sosa for Harold Baines and Fred Manrique, and as a sidenote also rushed us into a terrible protracted destablizing and unnecessary war in the middle east while running up record deficits and presiding over a massive job loss.

    Make your choice, America.

    • Maybe he could remember the score better if he got Bosox injections...
    • I was going to post something like this, I was even going to use the word fuck, but I probably would have missed the reference to Bush's ownership of a sports team. Well done.
  • TV ratings for Game 7 of the Sox-Yanks series topped a 50 share in Boston. Games usually don't get more than a 20 share, even for a playoff series. The point of that is that there are lots of people who are suddenly Red Sox fans.

    Shrug. I never liked Kerry anyway.

    Anybody can make a mistake. Kerry never said he watched the games, did he? His people should get the facts straight ... and maybe he should hire more well-rounded staff :-).

  • PUDGE YOU ARE SO FUNNY.

    Reminds me of that "Audible.com is biased" thing. Boy, did that have me laughing.

    You are so witty and good at baiting us liberals who can never tell.
    • Slashdot seems like a reasonable format to have an intelligent discussion about politics. Unfortunately, that hasn't turned out to be the case. Oh well.

      It's stupid to think that any real issues are solved in a presidential election anyway. If you really care about politics, join/form a PAC. I joined iPac [ipaction.org] which I think is a good start.
  • Don't blame Kerry on this. He doesn't care about the Red Sox. He would have bought the team already if he cared a bit about it.
  • You'd think that on Slashdot of all places we could have a rational discussion of something that matters! (After all the average slashdot reader is a bit smarter and a bit better educated than the average American. Oh my g-d! We're doomed...)

    There are a good number of political issues that do matter to Slashdoters. Perhaps we could discuss those?

    P.S.: Pudge - Just because michael posts Stupid Crap [slashdot.org], doesn't mean you have counter by posting more of the opposite type.

    • but then again, the average slashdot reader is also a bit more petty and prone to overreact than the average American.

      I'm not saying you're overreacting; I agree that this is a stupid story. It's just that even slashdot readers are idiots about some things.
    • Ya know, this article was marked with the "funny" stamp. Laugh :)
    • After all the average slashdot reader is a bit smarter and a bit better educated than the average American.
      Why do you think that? I completely disagree. I think that the majority of slashdot posters/moderators are angst ridden 16-20 year olds. And given the title of your comment, I would assume you fall into this category.
  • ...how seriously people take Slashdot. This story is silly. It's kinda funny. The whole "Football Fans For Truth" site is hilarious -- it has by far the funniest, stupidest pictures of Kerry. I'm sure all of us have equally dumb pictures of ourselves.

    I'm also pretty sure that this kind of campaign is doing less damage to the Kerry campaign than the campaigning of the Socialist party.
  • He was booed [washingtontimes.com] when he appeared at a Red Sox games before the convention. I think they see through his "insincerity" when it comes to his Red Sox Fandom.
    • The Washington Times? You have anything about this "booing" from a respected/non-insane paper?

      • The Washington Times? You have anything about this "booing" from a respected/non-insane paper?

        Umm.... ok. Here are some other selections: (not hyperlinks because I don't have all day)

        http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/07/26/loc_ lo c1akerrypit.html
        http://worldnetdaily.com/news/ar ticle.asp?ARTICLE_ ID=39633
        http://jskelly.squarespace.com/display/S howJournal Entry?moduleId=15843&entryId=35883
        http://www.wee klystandard.com/Content/Public/Artic les/000/000/004/378dethg.asp
        http://www.drudge.co m/web

        • I'm sorry, but you have to recognize that drudge, worldnetdaily, foxnews and washington times are all right wing hack jobs. That's fine if you accept that from the get-go, but I would imagine if I posted news from moveon.org and michaelmoore.com as proof of some left-wing rant, you wouldn't believe it.

          The John Kerry blog response is just from some poster JT2254, not anyone associated with the Kerry campaign. I couldn't see anything in the Boston Globe piece posted by someone else.

          Washington Post is the re

  • Sure this is pedantic, but...

    a baseball team can only score runs one at a time. Before scoring 11 runs, a team must score 10. In the case of the game in question, there was a runner on base when a home run was hit... but the runner on base must score before the batter does.

    So, for a few seconds, there were exactly 10 runs. If, for whatever reason the batter didn't cross home plate, the score would have remained 10. That would never happen, right? Ask Robin Ventura about his NLCS Game 5 grand slam bac
    • Sure this is pedantic, but...

      I can only fit so much in the story. Explaining all that would have added about 50% to the article and made no difference in the meaning of the story.

      P.S. Bellhorn hit the home run to right field (not left) and it hit the right field foul pole, AKA the Pesky Pole. See how easy it is to mis-remember?

      To be pedantic, that's not misremembering, it's me confusing my right and my left, which happens far too often. I know very well which pole it hit (BTW, did you notice how whe

      • P.S. Bellhorn hit the home run to right field (not left) and it hit the right field foul pole, AKA the Pesky Pole. See how easy it is to mis-remember?

        To be pedantic, that's not misremembering, it's me confusing my right and my left, which happens far too often.

        But when you make a simple mistake -- one which, I note, remains uncorrected in the article text as I write this (I can't decide if that's integrity or not) -- it's okay, but when Kerry makes one, he's somehow hopelessly out of touch?

        What's

  • ...but doesn't anyone else think that it looks bad when the only anti-Kerry submission on /. in the past week or so is a humor piece?

    Rob

  • neither news for nerds or stuff that matters (Score:4, Insightful)

    by avi33 ( 116048 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2004 @02:06PM (#10633607) Homepage
    Wow. I have spent considerable time in the past putting together well-linked relevant stories, only to have them rejected. Not that I'm grousing about it, but what exactly is this?

    Is it a 'most of our political posts bash bush, so let's try and keep it balanced' kind of a story? WTF? Is this a goddamn political blog? There are hundreds of those out there, why did we have to drag it in here, and worse still, couldn't we try to stick to relevant issues, or barring that, actual fucking news?

    Are we all supposed to spin off of some technological analysis of this gaffe? (Kerry must have been getting his 'updates' from Windows XP. he he.)

    I mean, can someone step up and tell me what possible reason someone would think that should be posted. And for that matter, why would an editor accept it?

    I had this sinking feeling that having a politics section would somehow cloud the otherwise mostly worthwhile content on slashdot, but I never could have predicted the results would be this dismal.
    • This is obviously a bone thrown to the whiny right-wingers who keep claiming slashdot it biased.

      This is also probably as legitimate a story you can find that "maligns" John Kerry without being loaded with lies and distortions. So the closest we come is something that really nobody could care about that redefines the concept of triviality.

      Congrats right-wingers. Does this make you happy? Will you finally stop whining? I doubt it.

  • We are talking about a political candidate (Nerd check: FAILED) and that candidate's sports knowledge (Nerd check: FAILED).

    I'm hard pressed to think of anything that matters LESS to me than if Kerry correctly remembered baseball game scores.

  • Yeah. Ok, Pudge. Sure thing. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by babbage ( 61057 ) <cdevers@cis.usou ... minus herbivore> on Tuesday October 26, 2004 @03:22PM (#10634623) Homepage Journal
    For those of you who are not Boston-area natives, you might not understand that Red Sox loyalty is far greater than political loyalty

    "...for Pudge."

    This is a really bizarre blanket statement with little basis in reality.

    Yay blanket assertions!

    Come on -- on one hand you have baseball, on the other you have the absolutely worst president in recent memory. What's worse -- a simple gaffe about sports statistics (big surprise: not everyone gives a damn about such minutae), vs another four years of this nightmare? Somehow I think Pudge is resoundingly incorrect on this one.

    But still, it's nice to see that he feels comfortable enough in his position as one of the "official" voices of Slashdot to use the site as a soapbox for his cranky politics... :-)

    and while this might not cause anyone to vote for Bush, it might make Kerry voters stay home.

    Or not. You never can tell!

    Worse, many Red Sox fans have vowed to see the Sox win a World Series before they die, so tens of thousands of Kerry voters could die before November 2.

    ???

    Of course, this won't affect Massachusetts, Vermont, or Rhode Island, and probably not Maine, but New Hampshire is a possibility.

    This article seems to be some new application of the phrase "news for nerds, stuff that matters" that flouts just about every term in the phrase. Impressive.

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