Unions do have a place and need in certain industries... it's just that tech isn't one of them. Anyone sufficiently competent in the tech industry can improve him/herself and get a better income over time - far faster than the typical Union could ever get you. There is a sufficient amount of work to be had out there for those who know what they're doing and can prove it... I think that only a brief 2-3 year period during the dot-bust was the main exception, in a field that has technica
People like you keep saying that, yet I'm not seeing it. I know a lot of people who work in tech and none have had their compensation increase dramatically in the last 15 years.
I've never worked in a place where they told you where the 'new ideas' go. In fact in the places I have worked the job is very narrowly defined and people are discouraged from thinking outside of it. I've come up with some good ideas in the past and have been just told to 'do my job'. It's not like I was being told that because it was a bad idea, the reasons have always been something like, "well then we have to support it".
I've known a few people with 'good ideas'. I threatened one of them in comments that if they ever checked in another 'good idea' I'd break all their fingers (and toes, so they couldn't code with their feet).
'Then we have to support it' sounds like someone trying to tell you nicely that you have a very very bad idea.
It's hard to retort without going into specifics that I shouldn't go into. Let's just say that I have recent independent proof that the ideas were quite viable. I think more the issue is, in a large corporations you end up with managers that don't see the big picture. If you have a big idea it quite easily goes over their heads. Because your idea may not be quite in line with what your group does, you can be seen as a threat or a nuisance. A lot of managers really just want people who will be one hundr
by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Thursday January 07, 2016 @04:30PM (#51257873)
The only place which will financially reward great ideas is your own company, complete with your products, your sales guys and your customers. You customer relationships.
In a big corporation, they are generally ignoramuses and in the small businesses they are not much better.
Bite the bullet and sell a product of your own. It is not easy, but the only way to monetize your ingenuity.
Even worse, in some places you will make secret enemies by doing innovative things. Along the lines of "this evil guy made sally, jack and celina redundant by writing those wicked automation shell scripts. Put the knife in the back of this sorcerer !!!"
Too many technical people are Very Naive Indeed. This is a world of snakes.
COMPASS [for the CDC-6000 series] is the sort of assembler one expects from
a corporation whose president codes in octal.
-- J.N. Gray
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Corporate shills claiming victory and deriding unions as evil in 3.. 2..
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Actually, it's a wash.
Unions do have a place and need in certain industries... it's just that tech isn't one of them. Anyone sufficiently competent in the tech industry can improve him/herself and get a better income over time - far faster than the typical Union could ever get you. There is a sufficient amount of work to be had out there for those who know what they're doing and can prove it... I think that only a brief 2-3 year period during the dot-bust was the main exception, in a field that has technica
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15 years ago I made around 40% of what I make now in IT.
I got a degree, came up with patent-able ideas, and made value for my company.
In return, I have been compensated.
Seems a fair deal.
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What makes you think they were 'good ideas'?
I've known a few people with 'good ideas'. I threatened one of them in comments that if they ever checked in another 'good idea' I'd break all their fingers (and toes, so they couldn't code with their feet).
'Then we have to support it' sounds like someone trying to tell you nicely that you have a very very bad idea.
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The only place which will financially reward great ideas is your own company, complete with your products, your sales guys and your customers. You customer relationships.
In a big corporation, they are generally ignoramuses and in the small businesses they are not much better.
Bite the bullet and sell a product of your own. It is not easy, but the only way to monetize your ingenuity.
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Even worse, in some places you will make secret enemies by doing innovative things. Along the lines of "this evil guy made sally, jack and celina redundant by writing those wicked automation shell scripts. Put the knife in the back of this sorcerer !!!"
Too many technical people are Very Naive Indeed. This is a world of snakes.