Unions do have a place and need in certain industries... it's just that tech isn't one of them. Anyone sufficiently competent in the tech industry can improve him/herself and get a better income over time - far faster than the typical Union could ever get you. There is a sufficient amount of work to be had out there for those who know what they're doing and can prove it... I think that only a brief 2-3 year period during the dot-bust was the main exception, in a field that has technica
Unions do have a place and need in certain industries... it's just that tech isn't one of them.
Tech is special, because we're tech workers and we're special.
Tech jobs are being outsourced faster than shit through a goose. Working conditions are suffering, job satisfaction is suffering, their work week is getting longer, pay is lagging, and we don't need to organize, dammit! Because we're special.
See, here's the thing: It's the wages at the bottom that set a floor for the wages the "high skill tech jobs" are paid. If there's a race to the bottom, you're on the short bus, boyo.
See, here's the thing: It's the wages at the bottom that set a floor for the wages the "high skill tech jobs" are paid. If there's a race to the bottom, you're on the short bus, boyo.
Haha, you wish. Like the wages of workers at fast food places set a floor for the wages of executive chefs at four star restaurants? Get real.
Wages at the bottom set wages at the bottom, nothing more, because there's a vast oversupply of folks with only basic skills. At the top, there's very inadequate supply and booming demand, so it's still a sellers' market if you've got the skills people need.
Like the wages of workers at fast food places set a floor for the wages of executive chefs at four star restaurants?
Tech workers see themselves as the "executive chefs at four star restaurants", when they're really just the bus boys. Even the best of them are just workers. You're not going to be on the cover of any magazine or get a reality TV show of you writing code.
Tech workers see themselves as the "executive chefs at four star restaurants", when they're really just the bus boys. Even the best of them are just workers. You're not going to be on the cover of any magazine or get a reality TV show of you writing code.
Nope, I sure won't. Instead I address technical conferences and write patents. As kids these days would say, "W00T!"
Anyway, have fun with your sour grapes. I'm off to help my fellow "just workers" build some more world changing products.
COMPASS [for the CDC-6000 series] is the sort of assembler one expects from
a corporation whose president codes in octal.
-- J.N. Gray
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Corporate shills claiming victory and deriding unions as evil in 3.. 2..
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Actually, it's a wash.
Unions do have a place and need in certain industries... it's just that tech isn't one of them. Anyone sufficiently competent in the tech industry can improve him/herself and get a better income over time - far faster than the typical Union could ever get you. There is a sufficient amount of work to be had out there for those who know what they're doing and can prove it... I think that only a brief 2-3 year period during the dot-bust was the main exception, in a field that has technica
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Tech is special, because we're tech workers and we're special.
Tech jobs are being outsourced faster than shit through a goose. Working conditions are suffering, job satisfaction is suffering, their work week is getting longer, pay is lagging, and we don't need to organize, dammit! Because we're special.
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Tech jobs are being outsourced faster than shit through a goose.
Only low skill tech jobs are being outsourced. If the bottom of the barrel wants to unionize, fine by me.
As for the high skill tech jobs, get good or get out.
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See, here's the thing: It's the wages at the bottom that set a floor for the wages the "high skill tech jobs" are paid. If there's a race to the bottom, you're on the short bus, boyo.
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See, here's the thing: It's the wages at the bottom that set a floor for the wages the "high skill tech jobs" are paid. If there's a race to the bottom, you're on the short bus, boyo.
Haha, you wish. Like the wages of workers at fast food places set a floor for the wages of executive chefs at four star restaurants? Get real.
Wages at the bottom set wages at the bottom, nothing more, because there's a vast oversupply of folks with only basic skills. At the top, there's very inadequate supply and booming demand, so it's still a sellers' market if you've got the skills people need.
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Tech workers see themselves as the "executive chefs at four star restaurants", when they're really just the bus boys. Even the best of them are just workers. You're not going to be on the cover of any magazine or get a reality TV show of you writing code.
Some people are still living in the '90s.
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Tech workers see themselves as the "executive chefs at four star restaurants", when they're really just the bus boys. Even the best of them are just workers. You're not going to be on the cover of any magazine or get a reality TV show of you writing code.
Nope, I sure won't. Instead I address technical conferences and write patents. As kids these days would say, "W00T!"
Anyway, have fun with your sour grapes. I'm off to help my fellow "just workers" build some more world changing products.