Unions do have a place and need in certain industries... it's just that tech isn't one of them. Anyone sufficiently competent in the tech industry can improve him/herself and get a better income over time - far faster than the typical Union could ever get you. There is a sufficient amount of work to be had out there for those who know what they're doing and can prove it... I think that only a brief 2-3 year period during the dot-bust was the main exception, in a field that has technica
Unions do have a place and need in certain industries... it's just that tech isn't one of them.
Tech is special, because we're tech workers and we're special.
Tech jobs are being outsourced faster than shit through a goose. Working conditions are suffering, job satisfaction is suffering, their work week is getting longer, pay is lagging, and we don't need to organize, dammit! Because we're special.
We're not "special" - our circumstances and mechanisms just happen to be unique. Just the way it is.
Yup - there's outsourcing, but 9/10 times, it comes back to bite the corporations that do it, and bites them right in the ass... usually in a spectacularly expensive way. Outsourcing is often touted as a big, bad boogeyman, but it has been around for what, 10-15 years now? Given that amount of time, you'd think that the entire global tech industry would be based in Mumbai or Hyderabad by now - yet it isn't. T
But the modern CEO very rarely stays at any company long enough to feel those effects. They come in, cut and slash, make their bonus...and their off to ruin the next company. Of course I might just be biased; I was recently "work force reduced" at HPE lol...but I got a severance package, so this time I didn't mind as much hahaha.
And if they suck out too much of the money, they go bankrupt and get replaced by someone who wasn't so dumb.
I don't fear outsourcing, I fear falling behind the curve.
Unions aren't going to help that, they just give you another boss. If I was low-skill and in an industry where becoming better wouldn't matter that much, like factory work (which I have done), I'd understand the union's place. In tech? The unions can forget about it. Half the people advocating them are only doing so because they're clueless
Its a Darwinist world. HP chose to infect itself with MBA. Now they will die off in a matter of years.
Also, America chose to infect itself with NY. Maybe Trump can keep NY in check. They certainly scream like Greek Sirens because that is their core capability. If Trump does not suceed, well, too bad. Darwin.
COMPASS [for the CDC-6000 series] is the sort of assembler one expects from
a corporation whose president codes in octal.
-- J.N. Gray
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Corporate shills claiming victory and deriding unions as evil in 3.. 2..
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Actually, it's a wash.
Unions do have a place and need in certain industries... it's just that tech isn't one of them. Anyone sufficiently competent in the tech industry can improve him/herself and get a better income over time - far faster than the typical Union could ever get you. There is a sufficient amount of work to be had out there for those who know what they're doing and can prove it... I think that only a brief 2-3 year period during the dot-bust was the main exception, in a field that has technica
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Tech is special, because we're tech workers and we're special.
Tech jobs are being outsourced faster than shit through a goose. Working conditions are suffering, job satisfaction is suffering, their work week is getting longer, pay is lagging, and we don't need to organize, dammit! Because we're special.
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We're not "special" - our circumstances and mechanisms just happen to be unique. Just the way it is.
Yup - there's outsourcing, but 9/10 times, it comes back to bite the corporations that do it, and bites them right in the ass... usually in a spectacularly expensive way. Outsourcing is often touted as a big, bad boogeyman, but it has been around for what, 10-15 years now? Given that amount of time, you'd think that the entire global tech industry would be based in Mumbai or Hyderabad by now - yet it isn't. T
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And if they suck out too much of the money, they go bankrupt and get replaced by someone who wasn't so dumb.
I don't fear outsourcing, I fear falling behind the curve.
Unions aren't going to help that, they just give you another boss. If I was low-skill and in an industry where becoming better wouldn't matter that much, like factory work (which I have done), I'd understand the union's place. In tech? The unions can forget about it. Half the people advocating them are only doing so because they're clueless
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Its a Darwinist world. HP chose to infect itself with MBA. Now they will die off in a matter of years.
Also, America chose to infect itself with NY. Maybe Trump can keep NY in check. They certainly scream like Greek Sirens because that is their core capability. If Trump does not suceed, well, too bad. Darwin.