Unions do have a place and need in certain industries... it's just that tech isn't one of them. Anyone sufficiently competent in the tech industry can improve him/herself and get a better income over time - far faster than the typical Union could ever get you. There is a sufficient amount of work to be had out there for those who know what they're doing and can prove it... I think that only a brief 2-3 year period during the dot-bust was the main exception, in a field that has technica
People like you keep saying that, yet I'm not seeing it. I know a lot of people who work in tech and none have had their compensation increase dramatically in the last 15 years.
by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Wednesday January 06, 2016 @05:26PM (#51251827)
People like you keep saying that, yet I'm not seeing it. I know a lot of people who work in tech and none have had their compensation increase dramatically in the last 15 years.
Seriously?
The current average salary at Google is $115K/yr. At Amazon it's $102K/yr. At nVidia it's $104K/yr.
Those are NOT bad salaries, and most of the big IT shops pay in that range. That puts IT workers in the upper percentages for the US population. And you are complaining about this? Especially it is common for IT workers to marry other IT workers, so it's frequent to have a two-income family pulling down close to $250K/yr in IT.
STEM salaries beats union salaries on average (yes, there are exceptions to anything, I'm talking the typical case). And they are in the upper reaches among all possible careers, with only a few (eg doctors) being higher on average.
The current average salary at Google is $115K/yr. At Amazon it's $102K/yr. At nVidia it's $104K/yr.
Lol. If you look at COL of where you'd have to live, those numbers actually are solidly lower class (if you can't afford a house with a yard you're one of the pov's) and getting worse. Wages are flat while costs are skyrocketing. You'd need at least $250k to maintain a halfway decent standard of living in the bay area these days. If I wanted to go back to living like a pauper in junkietown with several roomma
Yeah. I earn good money, have a very comfortable lifestyle, and am planning a very nice retirement. My earnings in real dollars haven't gone up in at least fifteen years, despite working to get new and relevant skills. These are not contradictory statements.
COMPASS [for the CDC-6000 series] is the sort of assembler one expects from
a corporation whose president codes in octal.
-- J.N. Gray
Aaaaand.. (Score:2, Insightful)
Corporate shills claiming victory and deriding unions as evil in 3.. 2..
Re: (Score:3, Insightful)
Actually, it's a wash.
Unions do have a place and need in certain industries... it's just that tech isn't one of them. Anyone sufficiently competent in the tech industry can improve him/herself and get a better income over time - far faster than the typical Union could ever get you. There is a sufficient amount of work to be had out there for those who know what they're doing and can prove it... I think that only a brief 2-3 year period during the dot-bust was the main exception, in a field that has technica
Re: (Score:3)
Re:Aaaaand.. (Score:0)
People like you keep saying that, yet I'm not seeing it. I know a lot of people who work in tech and none have had their compensation increase dramatically in the last 15 years.
Seriously?
The current average salary at Google is $115K/yr. At Amazon it's $102K/yr. At nVidia it's $104K/yr.
Those are NOT bad salaries, and most of the big IT shops pay in that range. That puts IT workers in the upper percentages for the US population. And you are complaining about this? Especially it is common for IT workers to marry other IT workers, so it's frequent to have a two-income family pulling down close to $250K/yr in IT.
STEM salaries beats union salaries on average (yes, there are exceptions to anything, I'm talking the typical case). And they are in the upper reaches among all possible careers, with only a few (eg doctors) being higher on average.
Shed me a tear.
Re: (Score:-1)
The current average salary at Google is $115K/yr. At Amazon it's $102K/yr. At nVidia it's $104K/yr.
Now factor out the janitors and give us the real numbers, because you can easily make $130k pushing badly written PHP right now.
If you're a poor starving techie, I got news for you son, people hire the competent, and clearly you ain't one.
Re: (Score:1)
Lol. If you look at COL of where you'd have to live, those numbers actually are solidly lower class (if you can't afford a house with a yard you're one of the pov's) and getting worse. Wages are flat while costs are skyrocketing. You'd need at least $250k to maintain a halfway decent standard of living in the bay area these days. If I wanted to go back to living like a pauper in junkietown with several roomma
Re: (Score:0)
Since when is Amazon in the Bay Area?
You can definitely afford "a house with a yard" on $102k/yr in Puget Sound these days.
Re: (Score:2)
Yeah. I earn good money, have a very comfortable lifestyle, and am planning a very nice retirement. My earnings in real dollars haven't gone up in at least fifteen years, despite working to get new and relevant skills. These are not contradictory statements.