Unions do have a place and need in certain industries... it's just that tech isn't one of them. Anyone sufficiently competent in the tech industry can improve him/herself and get a better income over time - far faster than the typical Union could ever get you. There is a sufficient amount of work to be had out there for those who know what they're doing and can prove it... I think that only a brief 2-3 year period during the dot-bust was the main exception, in a field that has technica
People like you keep saying that, yet I'm not seeing it. I know a lot of people who work in tech and none have had their compensation increase dramatically in the last 15 years.
People like you keep saying that, yet I'm not seeing it. I know a lot of people who work in tech and none have had their compensation increase dramatically in the last 15 years.
Seriously?
The current average salary at Google is $115K/yr. At Amazon it's $102K/yr. At nVidia it's $104K/yr.
Those are NOT bad salaries, and most of the big IT shops pay in that range. That puts IT workers in the upper percentages for the US population. And you are complaining about this? Especially it is common for IT workers to marry other IT workers, so it's frequent to have a two-income family pulling down close to $250K/yr in IT.
STEM salaries beats union salaries on average (yes, there are excepti
The current average salary at Google is $115K/yr. At Amazon it's $102K/yr. At nVidia it's $104K/yr.
Lol. If you look at COL of where you'd have to live, those numbers actually are solidly lower class (if you can't afford a house with a yard you're one of the pov's) and getting worse. Wages are flat while costs are skyrocketing. You'd need at least $250k to maintain a halfway decent standard of living in the bay area these days. If I wanted to go back to living like a pauper in junkietown with several roommates, I could just quit and start cutting meat at the grocery store, and not even have to move or deal with the horrible traffic. Oh, and the 15 to 20 grand you need saved up just to buy out of your lease if you lose your job. And better invest in some microdermabrasion and some Just For Men hair dye...because once that face stops looking fresh you're out of the job club. No thanks!
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Corporate shills claiming victory and deriding unions as evil in 3.. 2..
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Actually, it's a wash.
Unions do have a place and need in certain industries... it's just that tech isn't one of them. Anyone sufficiently competent in the tech industry can improve him/herself and get a better income over time - far faster than the typical Union could ever get you. There is a sufficient amount of work to be had out there for those who know what they're doing and can prove it... I think that only a brief 2-3 year period during the dot-bust was the main exception, in a field that has technica
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People like you keep saying that, yet I'm not seeing it. I know a lot of people who work in tech and none have had their compensation increase dramatically in the last 15 years.
Seriously?
The current average salary at Google is $115K/yr. At Amazon it's $102K/yr. At nVidia it's $104K/yr.
Those are NOT bad salaries, and most of the big IT shops pay in that range. That puts IT workers in the upper percentages for the US population. And you are complaining about this? Especially it is common for IT workers to marry other IT workers, so it's frequent to have a two-income family pulling down close to $250K/yr in IT.
STEM salaries beats union salaries on average (yes, there are excepti
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Lol. If you look at COL of where you'd have to live, those numbers actually are solidly lower class (if you can't afford a house with a yard you're one of the pov's) and getting worse. Wages are flat while costs are skyrocketing. You'd need at least $250k to maintain a halfway decent standard of living in the bay area these days. If I wanted to go back to living like a pauper in junkietown with several roommates, I could just quit and start cutting meat at the grocery store, and not even have to move or deal with the horrible traffic. Oh, and the 15 to 20 grand you need saved up just to buy out of your lease if you lose your job. And better invest in some microdermabrasion and some Just For Men hair dye...because once that face stops looking fresh you're out of the job club. No thanks!