Back in 1994, American negotiators promised a “good deal” with North Korea. Its nuclear plants were supposed to be frozen and dismantled. International inspectors would “carefully monitor” North Korea’s compliance with the agreement and ensure the country’s return to the “community of nations.” The world, we were told, would be a safer place. . .
Iran: Never invaded anyone, never used weapons of mass destruction against anyone, never posed a serious threat to anyone except Hussein's Iraq.
U.S.: Invaded Iraq with no provocation, only country in the world to use nuclear weapons, have overthrown countless democratically elected governments (including the one in Iran).
So remind me, WHO'S the threat to world peace again?
Oh, and if you're going to say that Iran "supported terrorism," well not only is there no serious evidence of that
by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Tuesday July 14, 2015 @03:26PM (#50111047)
It's difficult to say that Iran never invaded anyone since Iran is an Islamic 'nation' that rejects the notion of 'nation'. The religious leaders want an Islamic world without the Western secular idea of nation. But they first need to turn every citizen of their 'nation' into a 'good' Muslim, and than every Muslim in friendly nations and than every Muslim in unfriendly nations and only than they can start to convert non Muslims all over the world. But they are still having problems taming their own citizens and fail miserably in friendly nations (like Syria).
The only thing that is better about Iran's Islamic revolution versus ISIS is that after following the religious texts for over 30 years, their God hasn't given them paradise like described in their scriptures. Instead they have shattered dreams, a lost generation, are hated by about everyone else in the world, are in an economic mess, have no future without support from secular, Christian and Western nations (Crusaders, which should be their biggest enemy)
What will happen when Iran gets some more secular support (foreign money through investments/selling resources)? Will people start to believe that the Islamic paradise is a reality? Or will people finally step up against the religious leaders and ask for a more secular government or will the religious leaders finally see that secular forces are needed in a modern nation?
I don't know, but apparently the west is trying to make them a stronger opponent against Arabian Salafist influences (ISIS). The idea probably is that the worst thing that would happen is that they (Iran vs ISIS) destroy each other... or maybe, but probably not, another thing that could happen is that Iran turns in a modern democracy with Islamic roots (just like a typical Western country is a modern democracy with Christian roots)...
Seeing as there is absolutely no evidence they even want nuclear weapons, you might be waiting a while. When Mossad says Iran doesn't have or want nuclear weapons, you should probably believe them.
It's difficult to say that Iran never invaded anyone since Iran is an Islamic 'nation' that rejects the notion of 'nation'.
Baloney. Iran is one of the oldest civilizations on the planet. Their Islamic revolution was a response to and result of our meddling in their country, a country that a fairly secular democracy before we started meddling, over oil, and installed a dictator. Oddly enough, other than those in charge, the country is STILL fairly secular, with their internal "culture war" mimicking our own arguments between believers and non-believers of various degrees..
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error.
-- John Kenneth Galbraith
Only IRAN is celebrating (Score:4, Insightful)
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Choose one:
1) Iran/Syria
2) ISIS
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ISIS...
As bad as ISIS is, they are not really a threat to world peace. Iran is...
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Let's review, shall we?
Iran: Never invaded anyone, never used weapons of mass destruction against anyone, never posed a serious threat to anyone except Hussein's Iraq.
U.S.: Invaded Iraq with no provocation, only country in the world to use nuclear weapons, have overthrown countless democratically elected governments (including the one in Iran).
So remind me, WHO'S the threat to world peace again?
Oh, and if you're going to say that Iran "supported terrorism," well not only is there no serious evidence of that
Re:Only IRAN is celebrating (Score:0, Interesting)
It's difficult to say that Iran never invaded anyone since Iran is an Islamic 'nation' that rejects the notion of 'nation'. The religious leaders want an Islamic world without the Western secular idea of nation. But they first need to turn every citizen of their 'nation' into a 'good' Muslim, and than every Muslim in friendly nations and than every Muslim in unfriendly nations and only than they can start to convert non Muslims all over the world. But they are still having problems taming their own citizens and fail miserably in friendly nations (like Syria).
The only thing that is better about Iran's Islamic revolution versus ISIS is that after following the religious texts for over 30 years, their God hasn't given them paradise like described in their scriptures. Instead they have shattered dreams, a lost generation, are hated by about everyone else in the world, are in an economic mess, have no future without support from secular, Christian and Western nations (Crusaders, which should be their biggest enemy)
What will happen when Iran gets some more secular support (foreign money through investments/selling resources)? Will people start to believe that the Islamic paradise is a reality? Or will people finally step up against the religious leaders and ask for a more secular government or will the religious leaders finally see that secular forces are needed in a modern nation?
I don't know, but apparently the west is trying to make them a stronger opponent against Arabian Salafist influences (ISIS). The idea probably is that the worst thing that would happen is that they (Iran vs ISIS) destroy each other... or maybe, but probably not, another thing that could happen is that Iran turns in a modern democracy with Islamic roots (just like a typical Western country is a modern democracy with Christian roots)...
Re:Only IRAN is celebrating (Score:5, Insightful)
Last I checked Iran had government, constitution, borders, provinces, taxes, etc. Your BS claims are without foundation, they have a nation
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They also have a combined CIA & Special Forces called the Quds force that shapes events in the Middle East like a puppet master.
The Shadow Commander [newyorker.com]
Just wait till they get nuclear weapons.
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Wait you're saying their plan for world domination is sucking at world domination? Shruuuuuuug.
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It's difficult to say that Iran never invaded anyone since Iran is an Islamic 'nation' that rejects the notion of 'nation'.
Baloney. Iran is one of the oldest civilizations on the planet. Their Islamic revolution was a response to and result of our meddling in their country, a country that a fairly secular democracy before we started meddling, over oil, and installed a dictator. Oddly enough, other than those in charge, the country is STILL fairly secular, with their internal "culture war" mimicking our own arguments between believers and non-believers of various degrees..