How exactly did Trump incite violence? He condemned the insurgents. He said today that killing cops should result in the death penalty. How exactly is he inciting violence?
He called for the violence. He celebrated the violence. To the people who perpetrated the violence, he told them 'I love you.'
He is the cause of the violence, and continues to call for more violence.
He uses the word "fight" 23 times during the 1 1/4 hour rambling speech. This is what he says towards the end:
“Something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened.” And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore....
So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’r
there's been chatter in right wing forums for months now about violent uprisings. Trump knows this, his Secret Service and intelligence details would have told him. Instead of conceding the election he lost he continued to make thinly veiled threats.
Again, context matters, and from that context we can easily infer Trump & the GOP meant for there to be violence. The GOP is hoping to use the violence to oust Trump from control of the party. Trump was hoping to keep his base engaged and donating money
It is happening here. Biden is the main author of Patriot 1 (they reused a lot of a bill from 1994) and he is now calling the demonstrators terrorists. You'll have patriot 2 soon. With your enthusiastic support.
Full stop. They came with weapons to halt election proceedings. Several of them came with heavy zip ties to take hostages. The "protests" were way, way more violent than Fox News and OAN are showing you. Step outside your media bubble. Start with that video of the cop being beaten to death with the American flag. Hell, start by reading that sentence two or three more times until it bloody well sinks in.
And what is my media bubble then? fox news? I have said so before on here, I'm much closer to leftish people like Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi.
This is a crisis situation. A lot of stupid decisions are taken at such moments. And slapping a name on it which carries the load of the last two decades of an extremely aggressive foreign and domestic policy is the most stupid reaction you can have. You want terrorism? Make sure all those Trump supporters have the feeling that all their roads of action have been closed off. The crowd at the capital were only a militant minority but there are an awful lot who voted Trump and that is an antiestablishment vote. It means they don't trust the system anymore to do anything for them. They have a good point. This is not about fraudulent elections. Heck the Republicans probably did more to cheat on the actual elections [truthout.org].
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He uses the word "fight" 23 times during the 1 1/4 hour rambling speech. This is what he says towards the end:
“Something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened.” And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore. ...
So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’r
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Context matters (Score:4, Insightful)
Again, context matters, and from that context we can easily infer Trump & the GOP meant for there to be violence. The GOP is hoping to use the violence to oust Trump from control of the party. Trump was hoping to keep his base engaged and donating money
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It is happening here. Biden is the main author of Patriot 1 (they reused a lot of a bill from 1994) and he is now calling the demonstrators terrorists. You'll have patriot 2 soon. With your enthusiastic support.
They are terrorists. (Score:5, Insightful)
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And what is my media bubble then? fox news? I have said so before on here, I'm much closer to leftish people like Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi.
This is a crisis situation. A lot of stupid decisions are taken at such moments. And slapping a name on it which carries the load of the last two decades of an extremely aggressive foreign and domestic policy is the most stupid reaction you can have.
You want terrorism? Make sure all those Trump supporters have the feeling that all their roads of action have been closed off.
The crowd at the capital were only a militant minority but there are an awful lot who voted Trump and that is an antiestablishment vote. It means they don't trust the system anymore to do anything for them. They have a good point.
This is not about fraudulent elections. Heck the Republicans probably did more to cheat on the actual elections [truthout.org].