As an European, I'm struck by depending on media outlets announcements. Here we have official government committee, which gathers official results from all districts, sums the results and proclaims winner. Does USA have official, federal bureau for election results?
No, we don't. Because we started as a loose sort of semi-independent states with the idea that there would not be a strong central government. However that all changed with the civil war, however the south managed to insist that states be allowed to conduct their own elections (to ensure that only the correct shade of skin was allowed to vote). It's a seriously touchy issue, even today. So no uniform rules or central authority. There is a federal election commission, but it has little power and mostly
Two mailed to you? That is not fraud. That is just a clerical error. It would be fraud if you filled in both and tried to turn them in, and you almost certainly would have been caught.
Of course I do. They check the name on each and every ballot to make sure it is a registered voter. What, do you think they just rip off the top of the envelope and dump the insides into the tabulating machine?? Check the signature on the envelope, verify the name has not already voted in person somewhere else or has another ballot already opened and ticked off on the registration lists.
We have been voting by mail for DECADES! This is not something new, they're not screwing this up by being noobs. In a
if you filled in both and tried to turn them in, and you almost certainly would have been caught.
Really? You believe this?
Yes, because that's basically what happened to me. I asked for a mail-in ballot as I didn't know what my schedule would be on vote day. Got it, but as my schedule got set a couple weeks before vote day I never filled it out. When I got to the polls they looked up my name, seen I gt a mail-in. I had to fill out an affidavit claiming I didn't return the mail-in ballot.
Or are you claiming they wouldn't actually double check that? That would take a special kind of stupid to think that.
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As an European, I'm struck by depending on media outlets announcements. Here we have official government committee, which gathers official results from all districts, sums the results and proclaims winner.
Does USA have official, federal bureau for election results?
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No, we don't. Because we started as a loose sort of semi-independent states with the idea that there would not be a strong central government. However that all changed with the civil war, however the south managed to insist that states be allowed to conduct their own elections (to ensure that only the correct shade of skin was allowed to vote). It's a seriously touchy issue, even today. So no uniform rules or central authority. There is a federal election commission, but it has little power and mostly
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Anyone who thinks the fraud is happening now though is pretty much deluded.
I got two ballots myself, and I know other people who did too.
We live in California so it won't affect this election, but if there is fraud it wouldn't be the first time.
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Two mailed to you? That is not fraud. That is just a clerical error. It would be fraud if you filled in both and tried to turn them in, and you almost certainly would have been caught.
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if you filled in both and tried to turn them in, and you almost certainly would have been caught.
Really? You believe this?
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Of course I do. They check the name on each and every ballot to make sure it is a registered voter. What, do you think they just rip off the top of the envelope and dump the insides into the tabulating machine?? Check the signature on the envelope, verify the name has not already voted in person somewhere else or has another ballot already opened and ticked off on the registration lists.
We have been voting by mail for DECADES! This is not something new, they're not screwing this up by being noobs. In a
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He doesn't have trust in government. He has trust in the process. Your link is a part of that process not a counter to it.
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if you filled in both and tried to turn them in, and you almost certainly would have been caught.
Really? You believe this?
Yes, because that's basically what happened to me.
I asked for a mail-in ballot as I didn't know what my schedule would be on vote day. Got it, but as my schedule got set a couple weeks before vote day I never filled it out. When I got to the polls they looked up my name, seen I gt a mail-in. I had to fill out an affidavit claiming I didn't return the mail-in ballot.
Or are you claiming they wouldn't actually double check that? That would take a special kind of stupid to think that.