the hackers manipulated invoices from four vendors who were being paid for direct mail for Trump’s reelection efforts as well as for pro-Trump material such as hats to be handed out to supporters. Invoices and other documents were altered so when the party paid them for the services rendered, the money went to the hackers instead of the vendors
So it looks like someone generated a fake invoice and possibly a different bank routing number and someone paid it.
The Trump family has been stealing huge amounts of money from their campaign, it's pretty obvious this is just more of the same. Where did all those billions in the re-election war chest go? Straight into their own pockets.
Once they lose this election, expect to see the Trumps flee the country with their ill-gotten gains. They will almost certainly go to Russia. And of course, the Trump cultists will make excuses for why their messiah was perfectly justified in doing so.
Look, I'm no Trump fan but he has literally ZERO reason to steal funds from the war chest or his campaign. He's been able to pour more money into his properties during his presidency than they've probably made in decades through hosting large gatherings on the government dime and meetings with other world leaders. I get how bad most of what he does looks, but there's plenty of real shit to be upset about when it comes to Trump. There's no reason at all to make shit up about him and his family. They're l
He knows that gravy train is ending. He knows he won't be president much longer. He has huge outstanding debts. Almost certainly with the sort of people who take toes as collateral.
And besides that, thievery is in his blood. It's all he knows.
What you're doing at the moment is nothing more than wild speculation. I would say focus on the actual bullshit he's done, of which there is plenty, and direct your ire those directions. Wait for a real conclusion to be found on this subject before wasting energy on it. This constant need for hyperbolic speculative fiction on both sides is part of why the country feels like it's sitting right on the brink right now. We need more facts rather than more anger at things we're not even sure are true.
Nah man. I don't think I will follow your advice here. If you think "facts" are going to change the mind of one single Trump cultist, I have a bridge to sell you. Fascists love people who argue "facts." That just means they are admitting to the fascist that facts are important to them. To the fascist, there are no facts. There is only power. You can't reason with them. But you can humiliate them. You can laugh at them. That's the only thing, besides a bullet to the head, that works with fascists.
I guess I have some level of hope that the general public can come back to reality a bit and start acting like adults again. I suppose that was a naive hope to have.
Oh, don't "both sides" me bud. One side is calling for open insurrection, and throwing out elections to install their idiot King, while the other side is saying "Maybe some health care, please?" and you complain that both sides are acting like children?
Fuck that noise. That false equivalence promulgated by self-styled "moderate centrists" is part of the reason we're in the predicament we're in.
Oh go fuck yourself. Seriously, I know damn good and well Trump and his followers are insurrectionists at heart and it sickens me. But watching the left froth at the mouth and make shit up about a man that has plenty fucking wrong with him to actually complain about makes everybody look like a fucking idiot. Can we please, for the love of fucking god, try to base our arguments on rational and real cogent points rather than hyperbolic nonsense? That's what I'm asking. Stepping into the muck with the Tru
But slinging accusations gets the fascists' knickers in a twist. They go chasing after a red herring, and exhaust themselves.
Am I reading this right? I wonder, because you appear to be saying your OP was "slinging" false allegations. IMO, this makes you just as reprehensible as the Trump jerks who constantly do the same.
What the fuck kind of civil discourse do you expect to find here?
We should be working towards civil discourse, not away from it. Unless I've misunderstood you, you're just making civil discourse in this country worse.
You know, fascists love it when people call for "civil discourse." They know it means their opponents will try bringing a pen to a gun fight. We're WAY past the point of civil discourse. They have never, and will never argue in good faith, and they love it when their foes claim that they value "civil discourse." Because they just exposed their own weakness to the fascists, who will turn around and use it against them.
You're coming across a bit insane. It's like you think making yourself just as shit as them is somehow a sign of strength they'll respect. They aren't going to respect you no matter what you do or say. All you're doing is making it harder for people that would be on your side to respect you. Good job losing potential allies.
You're free to your opinions on the value (or lack thereof) of civil discourse, just don't expect me to agree with them. IMO, you're never going to change anyone's mind without fact-based, reasoned arguments.
Speaking of facts, you didn't address the main issue I raised. Shall I assume your claims of Trump's family stealing billions from his campaign are just false accusations designed to send "fascists" chasing after red herrings?
The trouble with a lot of self-made men is that they worship their creator.
How the hell? (Score:5, Informative)
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the hackers manipulated invoices from four vendors who were being paid for direct mail for Trump’s reelection efforts as well as for pro-Trump material such as hats to be handed out to supporters. Invoices and other documents were altered so when the party paid them for the services rendered, the money went to the hackers instead of the vendors
So it looks like someone generated a fake invoice and possibly a different bank routing number and someone paid it.
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The Trump family has been stealing huge amounts of money from their campaign, it's pretty obvious this is just more of the same. Where did all those billions in the re-election war chest go? Straight into their own pockets.
Once they lose this election, expect to see the Trumps flee the country with their ill-gotten gains. They will almost certainly go to Russia. And of course, the Trump cultists will make excuses for why their messiah was perfectly justified in doing so.
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Look, I'm no Trump fan but he has literally ZERO reason to steal funds from the war chest or his campaign. He's been able to pour more money into his properties during his presidency than they've probably made in decades through hosting large gatherings on the government dime and meetings with other world leaders. I get how bad most of what he does looks, but there's plenty of real shit to be upset about when it comes to Trump. There's no reason at all to make shit up about him and his family. They're l
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I can be upset with two things at once.
He knows that gravy train is ending. He knows he won't be president much longer. He has huge outstanding debts. Almost certainly with the sort of people who take toes as collateral.
And besides that, thievery is in his blood. It's all he knows.
Re:How the hell? (Score:2)
What you're doing at the moment is nothing more than wild speculation. I would say focus on the actual bullshit he's done, of which there is plenty, and direct your ire those directions. Wait for a real conclusion to be found on this subject before wasting energy on it. This constant need for hyperbolic speculative fiction on both sides is part of why the country feels like it's sitting right on the brink right now. We need more facts rather than more anger at things we're not even sure are true.
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Nah man. I don't think I will follow your advice here. If you think "facts" are going to change the mind of one single Trump cultist, I have a bridge to sell you. Fascists love people who argue "facts." That just means they are admitting to the fascist that facts are important to them. To the fascist, there are no facts. There is only power. You can't reason with them. But you can humiliate them. You can laugh at them. That's the only thing, besides a bullet to the head, that works with fascists.
I argue thi
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I guess I have some level of hope that the general public can come back to reality a bit and start acting like adults again. I suppose that was a naive hope to have.
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Oh, don't "both sides" me bud. One side is calling for open insurrection, and throwing out elections to install their idiot King, while the other side is saying "Maybe some health care, please?" and you complain that both sides are acting like children?
Fuck that noise. That false equivalence promulgated by self-styled "moderate centrists" is part of the reason we're in the predicament we're in.
You are not helping. You are part of the problem.
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Oh go fuck yourself. Seriously, I know damn good and well Trump and his followers are insurrectionists at heart and it sickens me. But watching the left froth at the mouth and make shit up about a man that has plenty fucking wrong with him to actually complain about makes everybody look like a fucking idiot. Can we please, for the love of fucking god, try to base our arguments on rational and real cogent points rather than hyperbolic nonsense? That's what I'm asking. Stepping into the muck with the Tru
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But slinging accusations gets the fascists' knickers in a twist. They go chasing after a red herring, and exhaust themselves.
Am I reading this right? I wonder, because you appear to be saying your OP was "slinging" false allegations. IMO, this makes you just as reprehensible as the Trump jerks who constantly do the same.
What the fuck kind of civil discourse do you expect to find here?
We should be working towards civil discourse, not away from it. Unless I've misunderstood you, you're just making civil discourse in this country worse.
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You know, fascists love it when people call for "civil discourse." They know it means their opponents will try bringing a pen to a gun fight. We're WAY past the point of civil discourse. They have never, and will never argue in good faith, and they love it when their foes claim that they value "civil discourse." Because they just exposed their own weakness to the fascists, who will turn around and use it against them.
Fucking sea lions man. Fuck 'em. http://wondermark.com/1k62/ [wondermark.com]
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You're coming across a bit insane. It's like you think making yourself just as shit as them is somehow a sign of strength they'll respect. They aren't going to respect you no matter what you do or say. All you're doing is making it harder for people that would be on your side to respect you. Good job losing potential allies.
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You're free to your opinions on the value (or lack thereof) of civil discourse, just don't expect me to agree with them. IMO, you're never going to change anyone's mind without fact-based, reasoned arguments.
Speaking of facts, you didn't address the main issue I raised. Shall I assume your claims of Trump's family stealing billions from his campaign are just false accusations designed to send "fascists" chasing after red herrings?