If you brand everyone slightly left of center as being just as kooky as the furthest left fringes, then why do you get so upset when those slightly right of center get accused of being just as kooky as the extreme right fringe?
You know what, I have a tran coworker. All the original parts are still there though. So what? She does a damn good job, she's polite to everyone, so why should I care? It ain't my business. Certainly far better to be hiding the dicks than to wave them around like the alpha male
You clearly do not comprehend just how far "the left" has gone to the Left, and that you are trapped within an Overton Window.
You probably think yourself a sane moderate, but you have a male coworker who thinks he's a she, and cross dresses as a woman, and insists everybody else refer to him as a her.... and you automatically comply with this total falsehood. Science (the hard sciences like biology, not the soft quasi social sciences) says this person is MALE and if this person was blasted to bits in a plane crash and had to have his remains identified SCIENTIFICALLY by DNA testing, that would produce the result of MALE (as in "he" "him" "his") but left wing politics has dragged the country so far to the left that even biological scientific facts must be discarded in favor of liberal identity politics. Incidentally, I'm NOT for being a jerk to anybody who considers him/herself "transgender" - it's a rather tragic situation that calls for compassion, but Wow, there's NOTHING compassionate about encouraging a traumatized or damaged person to live within a delusion. No decent person would encourage a teenage girl with bulimia nervosa to embrace her condition and vomit and diet even MORE. Franklin Delano Roosevelt and John Fitzgerald Kennedy would recoil in horror at what has become of their party. There were not even any "far left" radical Democrats in 1980 who would have taken the position you have taken here, yet you seem oblivious as to how far left you are and you apparently consider any guy who actually believes the SCIENCE (that your coworker is, in FACT, male) is an "alpha male moron".
Wow
It's stunning to see how many people on the left claim that they hate Trump because he's "anti-science", while they completely reject science and accept that men are women, women are men, and other such lunacy.
it's also amazing to watch modern Democrats, whose positions are so far to the radical left that they would denounce nearly every famous Democrat president as a "right wing extremist" if he was around today, claim that the problem is that Republicans have moved too far right, while those modern Republicans are today far to the left of where Democrat President Jimmy Carter was in the 1980 election.
This is probably a big part of why modern Democrats are working so hard to erase the history of the Democrat party...
The earlier poster was the one to bring up the transgender issue. I only pointed it out as an indicator of how far the window of what's accepted as normal had been moved and how fast. I did not choose the subject. And, yes, the direction has been to the left. Did I make THAT up, or are you willing to admit that yes, as a basic factual matter, the political left advanced that position of accepting transgenderism more than the political right?
where on Earth did you get that "God hates queers" garbage from any
What does this person being trans have to do with left or right in politics? What sort of crazy mixed up political world is that? Because we believe in a sane budget but must therefore insist that everyone wear clothes appropriate to their own sex?
I take the position I do on this particular topic. As I pointed out in another post, this transgender stuff is not my particular "thing", it was introduced by the previous poster and I merely addressed it as an indicator of a shift in politically-attached politics. Since it was brought up and you have decided to fixate on it, I'll address your point, and without insulting you as you childishly tried to insult me:
Human beings have a sex. Male or Female. Determined by Chromosomes. Yeah, there are a tiny numb
Human beings have a sex. Male or Female. Determined by Chromosomes. Yeah, there are a tiny number of people with defective genetics, but as with all genetic defects, these are not classed as normal.... Where is the genetic, hormonal, or other totally objective, falsifiable and calibrated medical test for "gender expression"? Is there some blood, urine, or saliva test for it? Does it show up on X-Rays? I thought we here on Slashdot loved science... oh, and those of us who ACTUALLY love science and discussion are open to discussing anything without going hostile.
One man's defect is another man's variation.:-) You can define left-handedness as a defect [rd.com] and force children to be right-handed, too, but all you're going to do is create misery, so why bother?
Many of the things you're talking about are equally true of homosexuality and transgenderism, and looking at the history of the science around homosexuality is instructive.
Homosexuality was classed as a defect for a while because most of the homosexuals that doctors knew about happened to all be mentally ill, a
You're entire focus is on a handful of Transgender individuals. You're completely ignoring economics. There is no viable economic left, and money is always what matters. The Transgender folks are just trying to avoid being stoned to death or given lobotomies.
Economically you won't find a single communist or actual post-capitalism socialist in American politics. There's a handful of them on Breadtube with subscriber numbers in the thousands.
Meanwhile Joe Biden, the defacto head of the Democratic party is basically a mid-1980s Republican. What passes for "The Left" in America detests him and is only voting for him because our First Past the Post, Winner Take All voting system means the alternative is fascism.
Science (the hard sciences like biology, not the soft quasi social sciences) says this person is MALE and if this person was blasted to bits in a plane crash and had to have his remains identified SCIENTIFICALLY by DNA testing, that would produce the result of MALE (as in "he" "him" "his") but left wing politics has dragged the country so far to the left that even biological scientific facts must be discarded in favor of liberal identity politics.
The hard science of sex is fascinating - much more interesting than just "male" and "female". You've got three parts: Chromosomes, genitals, and brain/behaviour. Most of the time all three match up, but there are more interesting variations. You probably know someone who, without you knowing it and without them knowing it until they get a DNA test, has XY chromosomes but developed into a woman.
It's less likely, but you may also know someone who is a chimera of opposite-sex fraternal twins who fused in
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If you brand everyone slightly left of center as being just as kooky as the furthest left fringes, then why do you get so upset when those slightly right of center get accused of being just as kooky as the extreme right fringe?
You know what, I have a tran coworker. All the original parts are still there though. So what? She does a damn good job, she's polite to everyone, so why should I care? It ain't my business. Certainly far better to be hiding the dicks than to wave them around like the alpha male
Wow... just... wow (Score:1, Troll)
You clearly do not comprehend just how far "the left" has gone to the Left, and that you are trapped within an Overton Window.
You probably think yourself a sane moderate, but you have a male coworker who thinks he's a she, and cross dresses as a woman, and insists everybody else refer to him as a her.... and you automatically comply with this total falsehood. Science (the hard sciences like biology, not the soft quasi social sciences) says this person is MALE and if this person was blasted to bits in a plane crash and had to have his remains identified SCIENTIFICALLY by DNA testing, that would produce the result of MALE (as in "he" "him" "his") but left wing politics has dragged the country so far to the left that even biological scientific facts must be discarded in favor of liberal identity politics. Incidentally, I'm NOT for being a jerk to anybody who considers him/herself "transgender" - it's a rather tragic situation that calls for compassion, but Wow, there's NOTHING compassionate about encouraging a traumatized or damaged person to live within a delusion. No decent person would encourage a teenage girl with bulimia nervosa to embrace her condition and vomit and diet even MORE. Franklin Delano Roosevelt and John Fitzgerald Kennedy would recoil in horror at what has become of their party. There were not even any "far left" radical Democrats in 1980 who would have taken the position you have taken here, yet you seem oblivious as to how far left you are and you apparently consider any guy who actually believes the SCIENCE (that your coworker is, in FACT, male) is an "alpha male moron".
Wow
It's stunning to see how many people on the left claim that they hate Trump because he's "anti-science", while they completely reject science and accept that men are women, women are men, and other such lunacy.
it's also amazing to watch modern Democrats, whose positions are so far to the radical left that they would denounce nearly every famous Democrat president as a "right wing extremist" if he was around today, claim that the problem is that Republicans have moved too far right, while those modern Republicans are today far to the left of where Democrat President Jimmy Carter was in the 1980 election.
This is probably a big part of why modern Democrats are working so hard to erase the history of the Democrat party...
where'd you get THAT? (Score:2)
The earlier poster was the one to bring up the transgender issue. I only pointed it out as an indicator of how far the window of what's accepted as normal had been moved and how fast. I did not choose the subject. And, yes, the direction has been to the left. Did I make THAT up, or are you willing to admit that yes, as a basic factual matter, the political left advanced that position of accepting transgenderism more than the political right?
where on Earth did you get that "God hates queers" garbage from any
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What does this person being trans have to do with left or right in politics? What sort of crazy mixed up political world is that? Because we believe in a sane budget but must therefore insist that everyone wear clothes appropriate to their own sex?
I love actual hard sciences which is why (Score:2)
I take the position I do on this particular topic. As I pointed out in another post, this transgender stuff is not my particular "thing", it was introduced by the previous poster and I merely addressed it as an indicator of a shift in politically-attached politics. Since it was brought up and you have decided to fixate on it, I'll address your point, and without insulting you as you childishly tried to insult me:
Human beings have a sex. Male or Female. Determined by Chromosomes. Yeah, there are a tiny numb
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Human beings have a sex. Male or Female. Determined by Chromosomes. Yeah, there are a tiny number of people with defective genetics, but as with all genetic defects, these are not classed as normal. ... Where is the genetic, hormonal, or other totally objective, falsifiable and calibrated medical test for "gender expression"? Is there some blood, urine, or saliva test for it? Does it show up on X-Rays? I thought we here on Slashdot loved science... oh, and those of us who ACTUALLY love science and discussion are open to discussing anything without going hostile.
One man's defect is another man's variation. :-) You can define left-handedness as a defect [rd.com] and force children to be right-handed, too, but all you're going to do is create misery, so why bother?
Many of the things you're talking about are equally true of homosexuality and transgenderism, and looking at the history of the science around homosexuality is instructive.
Homosexuality was classed as a defect for a while because most of the homosexuals that doctors knew about happened to all be mentally ill, a
"The Left" isn't very left at all (Score:5, Insightful)
Economically you won't find a single communist or actual post-capitalism socialist in American politics. There's a handful of them on Breadtube with subscriber numbers in the thousands.
Meanwhile Joe Biden, the defacto head of the Democratic party is basically a mid-1980s Republican. What passes for "The Left" in America detests him and is only voting for him because our First Past the Post, Winner Take All voting system means the alternative is fascism.
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Science (the hard sciences like biology, not the soft quasi social sciences) says this person is MALE and if this person was blasted to bits in a plane crash and had to have his remains identified SCIENTIFICALLY by DNA testing, that would produce the result of MALE (as in "he" "him" "his") but left wing politics has dragged the country so far to the left that even biological scientific facts must be discarded in favor of liberal identity politics.
The hard science of sex is fascinating - much more interesting than just "male" and "female". You've got three parts: Chromosomes, genitals, and brain/behaviour. Most of the time all three match up, but there are more interesting variations. You probably know someone who, without you knowing it and without them knowing it until they get a DNA test, has XY chromosomes but developed into a woman.
It's less likely, but you may also know someone who is a chimera of opposite-sex fraternal twins who fused in