I'm a parent of three children. No, really, a parent, not just a sperm-donor or an unlucky paternal unit paying for a youthful fling. Guess whose job it is to insure that my little darlings choose appropriate viewing material? MINE. It's my job to know where they're at. It's my job to know who their friends are. It my responsibility to insure that their reading material and leisure activities don't teach them values I find objectionable. These are my responsibilites, and I guard them with a vengence.
For the record, I am a moral conservative, and a strongly religious man. However, I RESENT that other groups are trying to do my job. I don't need somone to censor the internet and filter my TV for me. How can I teach my children the importance of making choices if the choices are already made? If all that's available is G-rated pablum, where is the victory of a choice well made? Life is about choices, and I would like to able to use the low-risk, limited consequence items like TV, internet and music to teach good decision-making skills.
I'm also trying to teach my children something about personal responsibility, moral courage, and tolerance for others. Religious nuts throughout history have tried to enforce their particular morals on the remainder of humanity, usually with tragic consequences. I would like my children to realize that, while we don't want sexually-explicit shows, we don't have any moral imperitive to force others to conform to our standards.
So, for the children, please quit doing my job. Fill the airwaves with every variety of material, leave the internet alone. I will teach my children, and if I will teach them to choose the good, and ignore that which does not enlighten. I am, after all, a parent.
I'm happy to hear that you are taking your responsibilities seriously. But...
not just a sperm-donor or an unlucky paternal unit paying for a youthful fling.
Who will do the parenting for them? I mean, I'm not worried about getting robbed by your kids. But you don't have all the kids. I thought it takes a village and all that.
But we are all responsible for ensuring that children are raised in a nation that doesn't just talk about family values, but acts in ways that values families.
It's nothing like the gun argument. The "Shit's complex yo." line really adds to your credibility too.
Who will do the parenting for them? Why don't you do it? No one is judging. It's clear to me the problem is too many people like you can't see the differnce between right and wrong; it's all shades of gray. That's why we have a society of bastard kids running around. Since they don't have a role model at home, someone would rather legislate it.
Right and wrong isn't pretty. But it is what it is. Yo
Its EXACTLY like the gun argument. You should prove it isn't using words. Merely stating such only works in the echo chamber in which you live your life. Both deal with the moderation and/or revocation of constitutionally guaranteed rights based on the situations of others. In both cases one side thinks because they personally are ok, the other side should leave them alone. One side wants Janet Jackson's titty on TV and the other do
I guess if you need to define it as such in your argument, for the sake of it I'll go along.
I am merely pointing this fact out and mocked those who think they are holier than someone else.
Isn't mocking someone like judging them? It's not a question of whether or not I'm judging you. There's right and there's wrong. You're wrong. I'm not using my definition of what's right and what's wrong. I'm using the definition of right and wrong. I'm praying for you that you'll o
Hillary's right, it does "take a village", but not "to raise a kid". It takes a village to pay for a kid. Parents, think about that the next time you're lobbying for new additions to the local school, or for speed bumps every 10 feet because you're afraid your kid will get run over, etc. We child-free folks pay just as much as you do for those items (ie, in most states property taxes are used to pay for public schooling, and the amount of property tax you pay relies only on the value of your property and
Note: I read your post to be in jest, making fun of Hillary, anti-gun nuts, etc. I just decided to rant.
Mostly the self-righteous posters at the top of this thread. This plays out all the time. Singles move into the city to meet other singles. While there they want a permissive society to get their meet and greet on and value personal safety (mostly from racism and fear of the minorities all around them) and mass transit. Then they meet someone and move out of the city and value "family values" and
As I understand it, the original thought, which came from old African proverb is this: "The village raises the child." It is my opinion that when it's changed ever so slightly to say, "It takes...", it embodies a major shift in the overall connotation and/or meaning. In this case, the change was perfectly suited to the kinds of policies favored by the Democratic party (in support of the so-called nanny state).
Parents, think about that the next time you're lobbying for new additions to the local school, or for speed bumps every 10 feet because you're afraid your kid will get run over, etc. We child-free folks pay just as much as you do for those items
Well, sure, but why should these folks pay to have the street in front of your road maintained, or police and fire protection your neighborhood? They aren't getting anything out of those, either. And you can draw an easy corollary between the quality of education
I couldn't agree more. You know who censored my TV, books, and so forth growing up? NO ONE. My parents were right there with me, watching what I watched, reading what I read, and making sure I understood what was going on. Did this make me into a raving lunatic who waves a gun around and abuses women? No, sorry. It did allow me to read 'objectionable' books, find out why my parents or others didn't like them, and make my own decisions on what I thought was right and wrong.
If I understand your argument, you're saying that no sane parent would expose their children to the nasty, dirty, underbelly of our world because they would embrace it and become part of it once it was known to them. Therefore, I'm either naive, insane, or a poser (though I'm not sure what would mean in this context).
My point, in the original post, was one of responsibility. I know the world has a number of unsavory, undesirable, dangerous and just plain evil things in it. I've traveled fairly extensivl
Nice, how you're imposing your moral values on your children. When I was a teenage boy with raging hormones, I very much wanted sexually-explicit shows. Very much like drugs, if I couldn't get them from TV, I would get them from somewhere else. And I saw some pretty explicit stuff at a fairly young age (around 15, 16). Can't say it's caused me any physchological damage. Though I guess I can't prove it as AC.
The problem with the Puritan rooted US society is that sex and violence are lumped in one category.
I am alot like the author of this message. I even home schooled my children because I don't believe it is the governments place.
There are two types of Americans(and slashdotters). Those who have a 'rights' based mentality. And those who have a 'responsibility' based mentality.
I believe that the television industry pushes the envelope because they think it is their 'right'. The complaints to the fcc were filed by those who think it is their responsibility.
I agree. It's insulting to tell someone how to raise their kids. I have none (by design). My parents always checked to see if a video game was too violent before the ratings were made. They made sure everything I did was in line. They were harsh at times but it paid off. Now, I can watch porn and know I'm doing the worng thing. Seriously, why is the parents that can't raise their kids try to make laws raising kids of others?
I am not religious and I'm sure how I live my life would make you shit a brick if I were your own child. I think that christianity in general has done more to warp the minds of our people than anything else.
However, if christians were like you by and large, my attitude would be quite different. You are a great man. Kudos.
we don't want sexually-explicit shows Since several people have commented on it, this was actually a typo, I intended to say "we don't watch sexually-explicit shows". For those who claim that I'm some suppressing my children's free will by censoring this material from their viewing experience, I offer the following explanation.
First, parenting involves making decisions for children, at the very least limiting their freedoms to protect them from physical dangers. I also believe that it's my job to teach
Human beings were created by water to transport it uphill.
Please babysit my children. (Score:5, Insightful)
For the record, I am a moral conservative, and a strongly religious man. However, I RESENT that other groups are trying to do my job. I don't need somone to censor the internet and filter my TV for me. How can I teach my children the importance of making choices if the choices are already made? If all that's available is G-rated pablum, where is the victory of a choice well made? Life is about choices, and I would like to able to use the low-risk, limited consequence items like TV, internet and music to teach good decision-making skills.
I'm also trying to teach my children something about personal responsibility, moral courage, and tolerance for others. Religious nuts throughout history have tried to enforce their particular morals on the remainder of humanity, usually with tragic consequences. I would like my children to realize that, while we don't want sexually-explicit shows, we don't have any moral imperitive to force others to conform to our standards.
So, for the children, please quit doing my job. Fill the airwaves with every variety of material, leave the internet alone. I will teach my children, and if I will teach them to choose the good, and ignore that which does not enlighten. I am, after all, a parent.
Cool! (Score:1)
not just a sperm-donor or an unlucky paternal unit paying for a youthful fling.
Who will do the parenting for them? I mean, I'm not worried about getting robbed by your kids. But you don't have all the kids. I thought it takes a village and all that.
Ugh, Hillary Clin
Re:Cool! (Score:1)
Who will do the parenting for them? Why don't you do it? No one is judging. It's clear to me the problem is too many people like you can't see the differnce between right and wrong; it's all shades of gray. That's why we have a society of bastard kids running around. Since they don't have a role model at home, someone would rather legislate it.
Right and wrong isn't pretty. But it is what it is. Yo
Whoops (Score:1)
It's nothing like the gun argument.
Its EXACTLY like the gun argument. You should prove it isn't using words. Merely stating such only works in the echo chamber in which you live your life. Both deal with the moderation and/or revocation of constitutionally guaranteed rights based on the situations of others. In both cases one side thinks because they personally are ok, the other side should leave them alone. One side wants Janet Jackson's titty on TV and the other do
Re:Whoops (Score:1)
I guess if you need to define it as such in your argument, for the sake of it I'll go along.
I am merely pointing this fact out and mocked those who think they are holier than someone else.
Isn't mocking someone like judging them? It's not a question of whether or not I'm judging you. There's right and there's wrong. You're wrong. I'm not using my definition of what's right and what's wrong. I'm using the definition of right and wrong. I'm praying for you that you'll o
It takes a village ... (Score:2, Interesting)
Hillary's right, it does "take a village", but not "to raise a kid". It takes a village to pay for a kid. Parents, think about that the next time you're lobbying for new additions to the local school, or for speed bumps every 10 feet because you're afraid your kid will get run over, etc. We child-free folks pay just as much as you do for those items (ie, in most states property taxes are used to pay for public schooling, and the amount of property tax you pay relies only on the value of your property and
Re:It takes a village ... (Score:1)
Mostly the self-righteous posters at the top of this thread. This plays out all the time. Singles move into the city to meet other singles. While there they want a permissive society to get their meet and greet on and value personal safety (mostly from racism and fear of the minorities all around them) and mass transit. Then they meet someone and move out of the city and value "family values" and
Re:Hillary was wrong to begin with... (Score:2)
As I understand it, the original thought, which came from old African proverb is this: "The village raises the child." It is my opinion that when it's changed ever so slightly to say, "It takes...", it embodies a major shift in the overall connotation and/or meaning. In this case, the change was perfectly suited to the kinds of policies favored by the Democratic party (in support of the so-called nanny state).
Re:It takes a village ... (Score:1)
Well, sure, but why should these folks pay to have the street in front of your road maintained, or police and fire protection your neighborhood? They aren't getting anything out of those, either. And you can draw an easy corollary between the quality of education
Re:Please babysit my children. (Score:3, Insightful)
And you know? My parents te
Re:Please babysit my children. (Score:1)
Am I a poser? (Score:2)
My point, in the original post, was one of responsibility. I know the world has a number of unsavory, undesirable, dangerous and just plain evil things in it. I've traveled fairly extensivl
we don't want sexually-explicit shows??? (Score:1, Interesting)
The problem with the Puritan rooted US society is that sex and violence are lumped in one category.
Re:we don't want sexually-explicit shows??? (Score:2)
In case you didn't get the memo... sex and violence ARE the same thing since feminism came to the fore.
"So what Janet Jackson's boobs were on TV? Guess what, a lot of you were sucking on one right after you were born!"
That's a damn lie! I never sucked on one of Janet Jacksons boobs!
Responsibility (Score:3, Informative)
Damn right. We need more people willing to stand up and say "it's my responsibility." More power to you!
Re:Please babysit my children. (Score:1, Insightful)
There are two types of Americans(and slashdotters). Those who have a 'rights' based mentality. And those who have a 'responsibility' based mentality.
I believe that the television industry pushes the envelope because they think it is their 'right'. The complaints to the fcc were filed by those who think it is their responsibility.
I would rather live with a bunch of people w
Re:Please babysit my children. (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Please babysit my children. (Score:1)
Re:Please babysit my children. (Score:2)
However, if christians were like you by and large, my attitude would be quite different. You are a great man. Kudos.
Re:Please babysit my children. (Score:1)
Re:Please babysit my children. (Score:2)
Since several people have commented on it, this was actually a typo, I intended to say "we don't watch sexually-explicit shows". For those who claim that I'm some suppressing my children's free will by censoring this material from their viewing experience, I offer the following explanation.
First, parenting involves making decisions for children, at the very least limiting their freedoms to protect them from physical dangers. I also believe that it's my job to teach