If they want to go after someone that is abusing the USPS it's the Chinese sellers that use international postal law to get the USPS to pay the expensive last mile.
This. A 4oz package i ship to someone next door to me (or anywhere in the US) costs me $2.66 (with a commercial discount). A 4oz package from China (to anywhere in the US) costs the Chinese company.17 cents.
For these dipshits complaining us "leftists" should be on board with everyone paying their fair share but aren't... it's not that we don't think that, it's just that we seem to have a better idea of what the problem is than shit-for-brain idiots who only listen to grab-them-by-the-pussy-Trump.
What an asshat. No you dipshit. You lefties are confused. If you would just leave services like deliveries to the private sector, you wouldn't have our tax dollars that prop up the USPS subsidizing Chinese delivery. Private business would fix the price or go out of business. It's you fucking fagots that thing were deplorable and incapable of good thought that's the problem.
by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Thursday March 29, 2018 @01:29PM (#56347891)
Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution, known as the Postal Clause or the Postal Power, empowers Congress "To establish Post Offices and post Roads".
But you deplorables know the constitution inside and out... lol
That the Constitution empowers Congress to establish Post Offices, does not mean that Congress should do so. It also does not mean that Congress should set postal rates, which rates are a result of political pressure and bribes.
I love it when people think the private industry is what's best for public utilities and services. You've learnt nothing from the internet, you'll learn nothing after you mail gets delivered once every 2 weeks and you get charged not only for sending it but also for receiving it. Go capitalism.
"You've learnt nothing from the internet, you'll learn nothing after you mail gets delivered once every 2 weeks..."
That would sure suck. But it sucks also today, here's how the deliveries were done in London in 1844
'The hours by which letters should be put into the receiving houses in town for each delivery are as follow - For delivery in town, Over night by eight o'clock, for the first delivery. Morning by eight o'clock, for the second delivery. Morning by ten o'clock, for the third delivery. Morning by twelv
But it sucks also today, here's how the deliveries were done in London in 1844
Let me stop you there. The function of a public utility needs to suit the current requirements. That we don't get letters seven times a day today doesn't mean the postal service sucks, people literally don't get that much mail anymore. The current requirements overwhelmingly tend towards 1 or 2 parcel deliveries per day and a letter delivery every couple of days.
The fact they don't do more than that doesn't mean they suck compared to how it was in London in 1844, it just means they are doing what is require
I used to live in Israel. The postal service was atrocious. I am told (I haven't lived there for a while) that it only ever started getting better after private companies started competing with it. It's still not a decent service, though. Not by any stretch of the imagination. Look for the opening hours of any of its branches on Google Maps.
On top of postal service being delegated in the Constitution, private companies can't compete with USPS... and they don't want to. Dipshits like you are too stupid to understand that. Every time conservatives have "privatized" something, the costs to taxpayers goes up in the form of subsidies, and the benefits go down. Now, if you hate this country.... like you seem to... and are literally too damn stupid to understand how things work, then i suppose that's ok. Problem is, for all your whining like a li
We had our national post company incorporated a while ago, here in the socialist Northern Europe. They are competing with the international delivery companies on the local logistics markets just like everybody else. The incorporated post company still has its basic service responsibility to carry mail, they just have the liberty to change the way they are performing it within the reasonable limits. I can't see any particular reason why that wouldn't work in the US as well, and that low cost enabled by "inte
The repub-tards forget to look how it works for other countries and then take and improve.
They think they are the shit and if it's not made by them it's caca.
Well the reality is that other nations lead in many domains and US is dragging behind because the corruption which is rampant during Republican administrations.
Our tax dollars don't go to the USPS. The USPS is not only self-funded, but each class of service pays for itself. That is, your 1st-class letters don't subsidize bulk mail or vice versa.
Honestly, if the USPS ceased to exist, it's a good bet that it would be red-state flyover country that would feel the effect with higher prices and reduced service.
But by all means, please rant some more. I anxiously await seeing you use the word "libturd".
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You lefties are confused. If you would just leave services like deliveries to the private sector, you wouldn't have our tax dollars that prop up the USPS subsidizing Chinese delivery. Private business would fix the price or go out of business.
No confusion on this side of the education divide; USPS gets NO taxpayer funding. NONE. It's all paid for by postage.
It's the way international postage works. They pay for their cost where it originates, not where it ends up.... something like that. Go to a site like Ebay, for example, and search for some little low value item. You'll see all sorts of sales for less than a dollar, with free shipping.... all from China. With a minimum $2.66 just in postage, US companies simply can't compete; and that's not mentioning cost increases. 6 years ago, my first class package cost was $1.68 (i believe... maybe it was $1.63) f
yeah but if you have ever ordered anything like that you understand why - I will order connectors and such from china (and canada) all the time because they are like literally $.30- $1.00 a pop and you do wait a good 2-6 weeks usually for the items to show up. The Int'l shipping comes at a cost of convenience because they are group shipped often by sea rather than air so even when they are shipped out immediately you may wait a month or more for your package depending on the volume that they happen to be hi
This. A 4oz package i ship to someone next door to me (or anywhere in the US) costs me $2.66 (with a commercial discount). A 4oz package from China (to anywhere in the US) costs the Chinese company.17 cents.
Did you mean 17 cents, or does the package actually cost a fraction of a cent? Pedantic it may be but my level of outrage is affected by whether it costs.17 cents or 17 cents.
And as the postal service is a vital part of the economy... shouldn't there be rates set that in the end MAKE money?
And instead of complaining about "misusing" the postal service by delivering packages (after all, what else is their job then?), shouldn't he enforce those rates? I'm not from the US and don't have that much details, but shouldn't the USPS somewhere under the executive branch as the President?
You've described a real problem. Unfortunately you then followed it up with an uncalled-for attack on our great President. How about you leave the politics out of it and focus on the issue?
Use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy? (Score:5, Funny)
Isn't that, literally, why they exist?
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I think that he thinks that the USPS delivers Amazon's stuff for free using Unicorns.
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If they want to go after someone that is abusing the USPS it's the Chinese sellers that use international postal law to get the USPS to pay the expensive last mile.
Re:Use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy? (Score:5, Insightful)
For these dipshits complaining us "leftists" should be on board with everyone paying their fair share but aren't... it's not that we don't think that, it's just that we seem to have a better idea of what the problem is than shit-for-brain idiots who only listen to grab-them-by-the-pussy-Trump.
Re: Use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy? (Score:1, Troll)
What an asshat. No you dipshit. You lefties are confused. If you would just leave services like deliveries to the private sector, you wouldn't have our tax dollars that prop up the USPS subsidizing Chinese delivery. Private business would fix the price or go out of business. It's you fucking fagots that thing were deplorable and incapable of good thought that's the problem.
Re: Use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy? (Score:5, Funny)
Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution, known as the Postal Clause or the Postal Power, empowers Congress "To establish Post Offices and post Roads".
But you deplorables know the constitution inside and out... lol
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Re: Use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy? (Score:0)
Well. You ass-hat Republicans have control of both the White House and Congress. So fix it or shut the hell up.
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does not mean that Congress should do so
I love it when people think the private industry is what's best for public utilities and services. You've learnt nothing from the internet, you'll learn nothing after you mail gets delivered once every 2 weeks and you get charged not only for sending it but also for receiving it. Go capitalism.
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"You've learnt nothing from the internet, you'll learn nothing after you mail gets delivered once every 2 weeks ..."
That would sure suck. But it sucks also today, here's how the deliveries were done in London in 1844
'The hours by which letters should be put into the receiving houses in town for each delivery are as follow - For delivery in town,
Over night by eight o'clock, for the first delivery.
Morning by eight o'clock, for the second delivery.
Morning by ten o'clock, for the third delivery.
Morning by twelv
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But it sucks also today, here's how the deliveries were done in London in 1844
Let me stop you there. The function of a public utility needs to suit the current requirements. That we don't get letters seven times a day today doesn't mean the postal service sucks, people literally don't get that much mail anymore. The current requirements overwhelmingly tend towards 1 or 2 parcel deliveries per day and a letter delivery every couple of days.
The fact they don't do more than that doesn't mean they suck compared to how it was in London in 1844, it just means they are doing what is require
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I used to live in Israel. The postal service was atrocious. I am told (I haven't lived there for a while) that it only ever started getting better after private companies started competing with it. It's still not a decent service, though. Not by any stretch of the imagination. Look for the opening hours of any of its branches on Google Maps.
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UPS, FedEx, DHL don't do this, dumb-ass.
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Yeah we should do this and rural hicks should pay the full cost of getting their deliveries about 4 times what they pay now.
Oh wait thats not fair you cry - what are you some kind of commie?
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Re: Use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy? (Score:0)
Can you site an example? Perhaps with a link to a source?
Re: Use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy? (Score:0)
Of course.
https://www.usps.com/
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We had our national post company incorporated a while ago, here in the socialist Northern Europe. They are competing with the international delivery companies on the local logistics markets just like everybody else. The incorporated post company still has its basic service responsibility to carry mail, they just have the liberty to change the way they are performing it within the reasonable limits. I can't see any particular reason why that wouldn't work in the US as well, and that low cost enabled by "inte
Re: Use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy? (Score:0)
That! Exactly.
The repub-tards forget to look how it works for other countries and then take and improve.
They think they are the shit and if it's not made by them it's caca.
Well the reality is that other nations lead in many domains and US is dragging behind because the corruption which is rampant during Republican administrations.
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Were so sorry we cant thing as good as you
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Our tax dollars don't go to the USPS. The USPS is not only self-funded, but each class of service pays for itself. That is, your 1st-class letters don't subsidize bulk mail or vice versa.
Honestly, if the USPS ceased to exist, it's a good bet that it would be red-state flyover country that would feel the effect with higher prices and reduced service.
But by all means, please rant some more. I anxiously await seeing you use the word "libturd".
dom
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ruh-roh. the randoids are out in force!
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You lefties are confused. If you would just leave services like deliveries to the private sector, you wouldn't have our tax dollars that prop up the USPS subsidizing Chinese delivery. Private business would fix the price or go out of business.
No confusion on this side of the education divide; USPS gets NO taxpayer funding. NONE. It's all paid for by postage.
Re: Use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy? (Score:0)
Obvious leftist troll playing at being knuckle dragging conservative.
If you have to humanize the opposition then you've already lost.
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You are an embarrassment to your parents.
I know. Your mom told me last night when my cock was in her ass.
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> costs the Chinese company .17 cents.
how is that possible?
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Actually this is incorrect.
Read about "e-packets" from the source..
This is why it costs less to send a package from China to New York then it does to send a package from New York to a block away.
http://about.usps.com/news/nat... [usps.com]
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yeah but if you have ever ordered anything like that you understand why - I will order connectors and such from china (and canada) all the time because they are like literally $.30- $1.00 a pop and you do wait a good 2-6 weeks usually for the items to show up. The Int'l shipping comes at a cost of convenience because they are group shipped often by sea rather than air so even when they are shipped out immediately you may wait a month or more for your package depending on the volume that they happen to be hi
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> costs the Chinese company .17 cents.
how is that possible?
He was rounding off. It's actually 6 shipments for a penny.
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Nice divide and concur Yuri, everyone gets inflamed and no one will notice.
Re: Use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy? (Score:2)
Conquer you fucking moron
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I don't give a shit
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I don't give a shit
Thank you for keeping us all informed about what you do or do not give a shit.
Re: Use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy? (Score:2)
You're very welcome
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> A 4oz package from China (to anywhere in the US) costs the Chinese company .17 cents.
1/5 of a penny? Doubtful.
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This. A 4oz package i ship to someone next door to me (or anywhere in the US) costs me $2.66 (with a commercial discount). A 4oz package from China (to anywhere in the US) costs the Chinese company .17 cents.
Did you mean 17 cents, or does the package actually cost a fraction of a cent? Pedantic it may be but my level of outrage is affected by whether it costs .17 cents or 17 cents.
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And as the postal service is a vital part of the economy... shouldn't there be rates set that in the end MAKE money?
And instead of complaining about "misusing" the postal service by delivering packages (after all, what else is their job then?), shouldn't he enforce those rates? I'm not from the US and don't have that much details, but shouldn't the USPS somewhere under the executive branch as the President?
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Irony. I love irony, especially unintended.