By the way, while there is *actual* fake news, most real news has "editorial bias" because it is reported and written by human beings, who are in general not completely unbiased however they may try.
Doesn't that describe mainstream media in general? The only exceptions I can think of are activist outlets, which are biased as all hell by definition, and tax or TV license funded organizations like the BBC (who have managed to become an activist outlet somehow).
Doesn't that describe mainstream media in general?
No, it does not. Mainstream media faces major repercussions for posting false stories, and it becomes a huge scandal. They aspire to journalistic standards of avoiding sole-source stories, and understand that credibility is their greatest asset.
The actual fake news willingly misrepresents the news or outright fabricates it in order to make money and/or push an agenda. Much like you misrepresented the GP's position with your cherry-picked quote, in order to draw a false equivalence and further your personal
So spinning and editing a quote to make it seem something different was said is not "fake news"?
The "60 Minutes" television show is infamous for doing just this.
That's why there are multiple news outlets for people to choose from. It only becomes a real problem when people with power try to selectively curtail some of them.
That's why there are multiple news outlets for people to choose from. It only becomes a real problem when people with power try to selectively curtail some of them.
The problem is most people are completely lousy at filtering nonsense from sense. I mean you have fox news who spent two presidential terms airing uncritical claims that the president is some sort of kenyan homo-communist muslim athiest without even stopping to say "You know, this might actually be crazy nonsense". And since so many people rely o
And so we seer the bias, you could have also described how CNN spent all the campaign airing uncritical claims against Trump, but you didn't.
This is the bias we're talking of, the idea that the bad stuff only happens from one side, whilst casually ignoring the same crap from the other side.
the only solution today is to read as much different places as you can, read both a Breitbart and a Guardian (or a Fox and a CNN). They are both as shit as each other, but once you view them both equally, you realise wha
I read Breitbart occasonally, its interesting. I just wish the media would also follow up on the stories BB runs instead of ignoring them as its obvious there's interest in knowing of the usua reported atrocities out there.
But until the media does get a little less biased and propagandising, I'll just have to make do with what I can and attempt to fill in the blanks with a widespread read of various sites.
Incidentally, the most amusing one at the moment is Guido Fawkes' Order Order. those hypocritical and n
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While they probably should, Trump feels this way because Jeff Bozo, who owns Amazon, also owns the NYT - or as Trump says "Fake News"...
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By the way, while there is *actual* fake news, most real news has "editorial bias" because it is reported and written by human beings, who are in general not completely unbiased however they may try.
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the purpose of monetary gain
Doesn't that describe mainstream media in general? The only exceptions I can think of are activist outlets, which are biased as all hell by definition, and tax or TV license funded organizations like the BBC (who have managed to become an activist outlet somehow).
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knowingly false for the purpose of monetary gain
Doesn't that describe mainstream media in general?
No, it does not. Mainstream media faces major repercussions for posting false stories, and it becomes a huge scandal. They aspire to journalistic standards of avoiding sole-source stories, and understand that credibility is their greatest asset.
The actual fake news willingly misrepresents the news or outright fabricates it in order to make money and/or push an agenda. Much like you misrepresented the GP's position with your cherry-picked quote, in order to draw a false equivalence and further your personal
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By the way, while there is *actual* fake news, most real news has "editorial bias" because it is reported and written
and read or consumed
by human beings, who are in general not completely unbiased however they may try.
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That's why there are multiple news outlets for people to choose from. It only becomes a real problem when people with power try to selectively curtail some of them.
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The problem is most people are completely lousy at filtering nonsense from sense. I mean you have fox news who spent two presidential terms airing uncritical claims that the president is some sort of kenyan homo-communist muslim athiest without even stopping to say "You know, this might actually be crazy nonsense". And since so many people rely o
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And so we seer the bias, you could have also described how CNN spent all the campaign airing uncritical claims against Trump, but you didn't.
This is the bias we're talking of, the idea that the bad stuff only happens from one side, whilst casually ignoring the same crap from the other side.
the only solution today is to read as much different places as you can, read both a Breitbart and a Guardian (or a Fox and a CNN). They are both as shit as each other, but once you view them both equally, you realise wha
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I could see your Fox and CNN but you lost me when Breitbart got involved.
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Completely ignoring the fact that the rules haven't taken effect yet since they need to be entered into the federal register first..?
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I read Breitbart occasonally, its interesting. I just wish the media would also follow up on the stories BB runs instead of ignoring them as its obvious there's interest in knowing of the usua reported atrocities out there.
But until the media does get a little less biased and propagandising, I'll just have to make do with what I can and attempt to fill in the blanks with a widespread read of various sites.
Incidentally, the most amusing one at the moment is Guido Fawkes' Order Order. those hypocritical and n
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I read Breitbart occasonally, its interesting.
Because you are a moron?