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Obama Delays Decision On Keystone Pipeline Yet Again 206

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Hugh Pickens DOT Com (2995471) writes "The Christian Science Monitor reports that once again, the Obama administration has pushed back a final decision on the controversial Keystone XL pipeline possibly delaying the final determination until after the November midterm elections. In announcing the delay, the State Department cited a Nebraska Supreme Court case that could affect the route of the pipeline that may not be decided until next year, as well as additional time needed to review 2.5 million public comments on the project. Both supporters and opponents of the pipeline criticized the delay as a political ploy. Democratic incumbents from oil-rich states have urged President Obama to approve the pipeline but approving the pipeline before the election could staunch the flow of money from liberal donors and fund-raisers who oppose the project. The Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell said in a statement that "at a time of high unemployment in the Obama economy, it's a shame that the administration has delayed the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline for years." Activists say its construction could devastate the environment, but several State Department reviews have concluded that the pipeline would be safe and was unlikely to significantly increase the rate of carbon pollution in the atmosphere. Even if the pipeline was canceled, it said, the oil sands crude was likely to be extracted and brought to market by other means, such as rail, and then processed and burned."
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Obama Delays Decision On Keystone Pipeline Yet Again

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  • Irrelevant... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Karmashock (2415832) on Sunday April 20, 2014 @08:36AM (#46798893)

    Every action that increases the cost of gasoline increases the profit in producing it.

    What the anti oil people have failed to grasp is that they're making the oil companies rich at everyone else's expense.

    If I didn't know better, I'd think the whole anti oil campaign were a conspiracy by the oil companies to raise prices. Because that has been the result.

    We are only getting fracking in the first place because oil got expensive enough to justify the practice. If oil were cheaper then there would be no fracking.

    Increase the cost further and see what happens next. But it won't be the green revolution.

    Long story short, batteries are what is holding back green technology. Batteries are shit. Until that changes the green revolution will mostly be a luxury feel good item for the wealthy. Anyone outside of the elite simply won't be able to afford to go fully solar with an electric car, etc.

    Which means we're on gas. And prices for gas will have to get astronomic before it will overwhelm the price advantage that gas has over electric.

  • by rossdee (243626) on Sunday April 20, 2014 @08:42AM (#46798909)

    What they need to do is build refineries in North Dakota, where there is plenty of oil, and also natural gas to power them.
    We don't want all the refining capacity of the nation to be in the Gulf where it could be all shut down by a hurricane. (stronger and more frequent due to climate change)

  • by LordNimon (85072) on Sunday April 20, 2014 @08:53AM (#46798939)

    Why can't we have a pipeline that brings fresh water, instead of oil? That would be a lot more helpful. We've been a serious drought for years, and there's no sign it will let up.

  • by Major Blud (789630) on Sunday April 20, 2014 @08:59AM (#46798961) Homepage

    This makes sense, but refineries takes years to build and perhaps a decade to come online. They also need to be built next massive water resources (which is why so many in the gulf are next to the Mississippi river) for cooling purposes and barge access.

  • Re:Irrelevant... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by ShanghaiBill (739463) on Sunday April 20, 2014 @09:15AM (#46798995)

    What the anti oil people have failed to grasp is that they're making the oil companies rich at everyone else's expense.

    This is not about facts. It is about a litmus test of ideological purity. Like spotted owls [wikipedia.org] and SDI [wikipedia.org], it has taken on so much symbolic importance as a political dog fight that the underlying facts no longer matter at all.

  • by hessian (467078) on Sunday April 20, 2014 @09:46AM (#46799095) Homepage Journal

    In the present day, the steam plant is located far from the occupants of the car, thus the cars are safer. But otherwise, it's the exact same technology. That's progress(tm)!

    Come to think of it, have we made any really startling breakthrus since the internal combustion engine and computer itself? I mean, other than obvious stuff like improving those gadgets and linking them together.

  • DeVry MBA /|\ (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Hognoxious (631665) on Sunday April 20, 2014 @10:07AM (#46799177) Homepage Journal

    Every action that increases the cost of gasoline increases the profit in producing it.

    I know a guy who runs a sandwich shop. Next time I see him I'll tell him to throw away 50% of his ingredients, leave the ovens on full even when he's closed and take on employees whose sole function is to break things.

    He'll be pleased as puch at all the extra money he'll make!

  • by WCMI92 (592436) on Sunday April 20, 2014 @11:50AM (#46799599) Homepage

    Obama only acts fecklessly after endless dithering.

    THAT is why you don't elect a "community organizer" (the politically correct term for "street agitator") President. They don't know how to lead.

  • by Trailer Trash (60756) on Sunday April 20, 2014 @11:50AM (#46799603) Homepage

    Even if the pipeline was canceled, it said, the oil sands crude was likely to be extracted and brought to market by other means, such as rail, and then processed and burned.

    Hmm, I wonder if our beloved President 1% knows any 1%ers who, say, owns a railroad company?

    Oh.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/... [bloomberg.com]

    I wonder how Burlington Northern's doing on this latest news.

  • Re:Not at all (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 20, 2014 @12:18PM (#46799757)

    Speaking of profits....I live in the Northeast, where we have high gasoline taxes. The "greedy oil companies" make about
    7 cents on every gallon sold. The state and Fed governments make over 30 cents per gallon sold. So who's "greedy" ?
    The suppliers of a needed commodity? Or our governments, who did NOTHING to make that energy available to the rest of us,
    except give their "permission" to sell it?

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