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New Zealand Government About To Legalize Spying On NZ Citizens 216

Flere Imsaho writes "After admitting they have illegally spied on NZ citizens or residents 88 times (PDF) since 2003, the government, in a stunning example of arse covering, is about to grant the GCSB the right to intercept the communications of New Zealanders in its role as the national cyber security agency, rather than examine the role the GCSB should play and then look at the laws. There has been strong criticism from many avenues. The bill is being opposed by Labor and the Greens, but it looks like National now have the numbers to get this passed. Of course, the front page story is all about the royal baby, with this huge erosion of privacy relegated to a small article near the bottom of the front page. Three cheers, the monarchy is secure, never mind the rights of the people. More bread and circuses anyone?"
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New Zealand Government About To Legalize Spying On NZ Citizens

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  • Ashamed (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 22, 2013 @08:15PM (#44356739)

    I've been a Kiwi all my life and have had some bad moments, and some moments when I'm damn proud to be one.

    This however, is the first time I'm outright ashamed.

  • by master5o1 ( 1068594 ) on Monday July 22, 2013 @08:33PM (#44356855) Homepage

    What NZ Constitution are you talking about?

  • Re:Ashamed (Score:3, Interesting)

    by jemmyw ( 624065 ) on Monday July 22, 2013 @08:46PM (#44356965)

    I've been a Kiwi for about 18 months (do you get to adopt the nomenclature? Alright NZ citizen). You take the ups with the downs, we just legalised gay marriage, an up in my opinion. This is a down. I don't think many here care about this issue. On the up side though I think most people view our security service as somewhat inept blunders.

  • by Isaac Remuant ( 1891806 ) on Monday July 22, 2013 @09:48PM (#44357339)

    Someday we'll realize all these divisions and patriotism only help to keep us occupied and divided instead of trying to find a way to avoid the corruption of those with power/money.

    We're all humans after all, no matter what religion, ideology or place of birth.

  • Re:Dialog (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Guppy06 ( 410832 ) on Monday July 22, 2013 @09:49PM (#44357353)

    China is a better neighbor to us here in NZ than the USA

    For the Kiwis, it's not "US or China," it's "US or Fiji" or even "US or France." Most of the South Pacific (i.e. New Zealand's neighborhood) isn't a very fun place to live, and the folks in Wellington would like to keep that from happening to their own (surprisingly expansive [wikipedia.org]) corner of it.

    The Chinese really don't care who's in power in any particular non-Sinosphere country (if anybody) so long as they have buyers. In contrast, the US (and Australia and France and...) has actual people and territory at stake in the region and have a vested interest in things like local coups, fishing rights, pollution, high-seas piracy, etc.

    In that respect, the US government has been relatively consistent (for better or for worse) and has helped to establish order (for better or for worse) in the region. In that respect, the US is at least a known evil, and isn't the one currently trying to "test" nuclear weapons in American Samoa.

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