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Pakistan Lifts YouTube Ban For 3 Minutes, Finds More Blasphemy 275

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from the reality-preempts-the-onion dept.
On Saturday, Pakistan briefly lifted the months-old ban on YouTube, spurred by the widely distributed U.S.-made video presented as a trailer for a film titled "Innocence of Muslims" and decried in many places around the world as blasphemous toward Islam. "After months of criticism of the ban, the government decided to allow Pakistanis to have access to YouTube again, saying steps had been taken to ensure that offensive content would not be visible. But those efforts apparently failed, and the authorities quickly backtracked," writes the New York Times. "Quickly" is right: access to YouTube was apparently open for just three minutes, which seems about right; it shouldn't take longer than that to discover things on the site to which adherents of any particular religion might take umbrage. What's surprising is that this took lifting the censorship on a wide scale, rather than just taking a smaller peek through tunneling software.
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Pakistan Lifts YouTube Ban For 3 Minutes, Finds More Blasphemy

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  • by PPH (736903) on Sunday December 30, 2012 @06:34PM (#42428419)

    Even Pakistan has better broadband than we do.

    [Sigh]

  • by MarkvW (1037596) on Sunday December 30, 2012 @06:41PM (#42428453)

    The darn transistor is the root of all blasphemy. It should be banned from the nation-states of the faithful!

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I say the transistor is the will of God. We are now enemies.

      • by Cinder6 (894572) on Sunday December 30, 2012 @06:56PM (#42428543)

        My (likely--hopefully--erroneous) understanding of Islam is that everything is the will of Allah. If that's the case, then Allah wills blasphemy. Thus, it stands to reason that blasphemy doesn't exist, because (presumably) anything Allah does is holy.

        I hope my understanding is wrong, because that's more insanity than I'm comfortable with.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          My (likely--hopefully--erroneous) understanding of Islam is that everything is the will of Allah. If that's the case, then Allah wills blasphemy. Thus, it stands to reason that blasphemy doesn't exist, because (presumably) anything Allah does is holy.

          I hope my understanding is wrong, because that's more insanity than I'm comfortable with.

          Nope, you're obviously working from a very unsophisticated theology. The joy of sophisticated theology is that it can take the sentence "I love you and I hate you" and turn it in to something coherent. Anyone thinking that sentence negative is clearly taking it out of context. Anyone thinking the sentence is about love is clearly taking it out of context.

          The problem is in men confabulating impossible ideas, and not having the slightest clue as to how they would make the shit work. Imagine a 2nd century ston

          • I think if you want to learn anything definite about god/providence/spirit you have to fixate less on the fact that all religions and all 'alternative' religious teachings are mostly nonsense. Yeah I know it's maddening that people would just make all that shit up and call it 'truth', but we can't fix them. In my experience you can find out something for yourself though, if you are patient and work at it.

      • by amiga3D (567632)

        I declare jihad! on all lovers of integrated circuitry!

      • by shentino (1139071)

        You dope.

      • this resistance *can* be rectified. ...unless you lack the capacity to reach your potential.

    • by alienzed (732782) on Sunday December 30, 2012 @06:55PM (#42428527) Homepage
      Isn't religion the root of all blasphemy?
  • I am sure officials took many a peek, I am sure they had some idea what they were unbanning. But 5 million people browsing for 3 minutes can uncover a lot more than 1 guy browsing for days.

  • by EmperorOfCanada (1332175) on Sunday December 30, 2012 @06:52PM (#42428513)
    I suspect that the average Pakistani thinks little of their government; thus anything the government blocks must be good and should be checked out. I suspect that the total amount of blasphemy watched is higher in the end as the population end runs any poorly implemented systems the same way Canadians end run the whole "This content not available in your region."
  • by Animats (122034) on Sunday December 30, 2012 @07:01PM (#42428565) Homepage

    Keep that blasphemy going out. The nuttier religions need criticism, ridicule, and opposition. As soon as a religion gets temporal power, like the power to put people in jail, it's in the politics business. Leaders of such religions have to take all the heat politicians do.

    If the only way to tame out of control religions is war, that's worse for everybody, including the leaders of the religions. Historically, leaders of militant religions don't do well when they lose a war. See most of European history prior to 1800 or so.

  • enacts its censorship roughly the same way i direct my gaze in the locker room at the gym. Although I say elderly instead of blashphemy.
  • The average Pakistani probably has no idea about any blasphemy on youtube, the people who are viewing the most blasphemy on youtube in pakistan are the people looking for it within the government so that they can block it.

    • by Shavano (2541114)

      The average Pakistani probably has no idea about any blasphemy on youtube, the people who are viewing the most blasphemy on youtube in pakistan are the people looking for it within the government so that they can block it.

      I think so. In America, the internet is for porn [youtube.com]. In Pakistan, it's for blasphemy.

  • by sg_oneill (159032) on Sunday December 30, 2012 @07:34PM (#42428731)

    "Innocence of muslims" has to be one of the worst pieces of film I've ever watched. It was quite clearly created to insult and enrage muslims.

    However I would suggest to the Pakistani authorities that if they REALLY want to stop their sensitive southerners from getting enraged at the west, perhaps they need to have a word to their american friends about those drone bombers. I figure if I was in a targetted village it would be the drones, not some silly infantile troll video, that would be my major beef.

  • So, today we learned that it takes the Internet 3 minutes to offend.

    My friends, I am ashamed. Three minutes? We must try harder!

  • The lift of the ban for 3 minutes on a global scale followed by a new global ban rather than first peek through the software is no surprise. Of course they took a peek through the firewalls first!

    This looks much more a well planed statement as a botched trial.

    • by Shavano (2541114)

      This looks much more a well planed statement as a botched trial.

      So it's exceptionally flat?

  • by Progman3K (515744) on Sunday December 30, 2012 @07:59PM (#42428867)

    Go live in a cave!

    It came to me in a dream; God spoke to me, she said "those that are offended should go live in a cave, ascetic lifestyle, ftw"

    "But lord, are you saying they're righteous?" I countered

    "Not at all," she replied "this way those who won't do as I wish won't screw it up for the rest of you living in the 21st century."

    I know you don't believe me, but may God smite the earth and destroy it, RIGHT NOW, if I am wrong!

    See? Nothing happened, therefore I am God's messenger!

  • I'm shocked there is blasphemy on this Institution! (Where are my winnings?)

  • by okmijnuhb (575581) on Sunday December 30, 2012 @08:35PM (#42429111)
    Don't like blasphemy? Don't search for it.

    You're welcome!
  • Only Allah could pass judgement and shut down YouTube in 3 minutes! Allahu Akhbar!
  • We were in the nick of time. You were in great blasphemy.
    I don't think I was.
    You were, Sir Galahad, You were in terrible blasphemy.
    Look, let me go back in there and face the blasphemy.
    It's too blasphemous.
    Look, it's my duty as a knight to try and sample as much blasphemy as I can.
    No, no, we must find the Grail.
    Oh, let me go and have a bit of blasphemy?
    No. It's unhealthy.
    ... I Bet you're gay.
    No, I'm not.

  • Wow, yet another "crazy Mooslims" story. Meanwhile, the United States government has just re-upped warrantless wiretapping and indefinite military detention of Americans. And a recent document release shows the collusion between the banks and the highest levels of government in crushing [newser.com] the Occupy movement.

    Meanwhile, both sides of the coin, I mean aisle, are thankful for the media/public fixation on the Sandy Hook shootings. Democrats, because focusing liberal rage on mass shootings distracts from FISA a

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by VortexCortex (1117377)

      It's saying we should not throw stones in fucking glass houses until we've taken steps to ensure our own shit does not stink. Stop the fucking shrieking about their molehills from on top your mountain.

      I wasn't quite with you, but at least reading with an open mind until I hit this part. Now, for someone who's apparently knowledgeable about civil liberties I'd have assumed you better at common sense logic than this. We shouldn't cite the censorship or other civil rights violations of other countries until the US has become a paragon of justice? So, you're advocating we censor ourselves too, now? I'm sorry. Fuck you. I'll "throw stones" at everyone's glass houses, even if my own is made of sugar.

  • by ryzvonusef (1151717) on Monday December 31, 2012 @04:08AM (#42431141) Journal

    As a Pakistani, I can only find this hilarious, albeit morbidly so.

    You see, all they have succeeded in making sure that *every* one knows how to use proxies.

    You see, as long as people got their damn facebook and youtube, no one gave a flying hoot about anything else. We (including I myself) didn't know there was even a way to access websites banned by the PTA, and since we were *good* boys and girls, we didn't care about *bad* websites being closed, so we didn't bother finding out how we could access them.

    Now, they can't access youtube, well guess what, people started asking, how can we access restricted websites? Answer: Proxies etc.

    We are not bad people, right? We just want to access youtube to watch University lectures (pakistan's virtual university has a youtube channel with all their lectures online), how to stitch clothes (my mom's favourite, she learnt many a good cloth making designs on youtube) etc...

    And while we are doing this to only access youtube now, well, a proxy opens the way to *all* websites.

    Now even the websites they would *genuinely* want people to stop visiting (porn etc) are open to all. Guess what, my dear local mullah, you have only succeeded in making sure people now have the tools to visit the same evil websites you wanted to stop.

    Yeah, all that, um, *effort*, that 15 year old kid did to find and collate a list of 780,000 porn websites for the govt to ban [tribune.com.pk]? The internet routes around obstructions, b'ch!

    Not that the govt cares either way, they are busy making sure the bhutto dynasty can continue on... these are all attention diversion tactics, to hide the fact that I can't find gas for a week (btw, Gas means CNG in local context, Petrol is hardly ever used, though even *that* has run out! yeah our govt is awesome)

    And it's not like *anyone* is pretending they are *not* using youtube; for example, TV channels often put their programs on youtube for people to view, and obviously they must be using proxies, since they haven't switched to other websites. They bald-faced-ly give links to the youtube version on their facebook page, for example.

    But no one can dare admit that the youtube ban is a farce, or they will be part of the *blasphemous* campaign. Also, apparently, by Pakistan banning youtube, we have brought down Google to it's knees (I have seen actual *statistics* to that effect, don't ask me where they got their figures from), we are winning! We can't give up a step away from victory!

    Vive la révolution islamique!

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