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Australian Greens Demand Public Access To Cloak and Dagger Anti-Piracy Meetings 93

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Fluffeh writes "Continuing the recent stories on the secret, closed door, FOI blocked talks, the Australian Greens have filed a motion in the Senate requesting that the Government release documents regarding its closed door meetings on Internet piracy which the Attorney-General's Department has blocked from being released under Freedom of Information laws. This morning, Greens Communications Spokesperson Scott Ludlam filed an order in the Senate that the Government disclose details of the most recent meeting. 'The Government refuses to reveal almost any information about the attendees, the substance or the outcomes of the meeting,' he said in a separate statement. 'A Freedom of Information request from a journalist looks like it's been met with maximum resistance.'"
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Australian Greens Demand Public Access To Cloak and Dagger Anti-Piracy Meetings

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  • How to assist this (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 22, 2012 @07:04AM (#39438767)

    Who do we petition or write to to make this a reality?

  • by blahplusplus (757119) on Thursday March 22, 2012 @07:11AM (#39438779)

    "Actually, they never were."

    Except for roads, electrification, water and sewage, healthcare (outside the US), and the social safety net??? To say government doesn't govern at least somewhat in the interests of the people is a lie. The issue has always been the people do nothing to change things until the proverbial shit hits the fan (great depression).

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 22, 2012 @07:57AM (#39438963)

    I'd dare say that mob rule is often even more dangerous. Especially when the mob is emotional.

  • Re:At last... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Elaugaufein (1758724) on Thursday March 22, 2012 @08:29AM (#39439141)
    I think you're confused about what a request/motion from a Senator is. Its not asking politely, its essentially proposing that the matter be considered by that House (and as such it needs to be voted on, even if it gets voted down) and the Greens hold the balance of power in the Senate, and our major parties are so polarized at the moment that they'll vote against something just because the other side votes for it, it'd be pretty difficult to dismiss it out of hand anyway in any practical sense.
  • It's not that simple (Score:4, Interesting)

    by F69631 (2421974) on Thursday March 22, 2012 @09:35AM (#39439719)

    If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.

    When Churchill said the above, he very much meant liberal as in libertarian. The point was that when you're young and idealist, you think that free economy/people/etc. lead to the best results... and after you've seen a bit more of the world (and grown a bit more cynical), you end up thinking that regulations and the like have their place.

    So... while the term "liberal" appears to be synonymous to cultural liberalism [wikipedia.org] to those who reside in the USA, it can mean either cultural or economic liberalism or any combination of those here in Europe. It all depends on what kind of rhetoric the party wants to use... For example, here in Finland we have a Libertarianist party (which doesn't have much support) under the name of "Liberals".

  • Re:At last... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mcgrew (92797) * on Thursday March 22, 2012 @09:49AM (#39439899) Homepage Journal

    Both sides here in the states

    We have a Green Party here in the US, too. Their Presidential candidate was on enough ballots last election to win, had the media given them coverage instead of convincing you that we only have two parties, or that a vote for a Green or Libertarian (also on enough ballots to win, as was the Constitution Party) is "wasted".

    You know why our voter turnout is so low here? The above explains it. Rather than choosing between eating a shit sandwich and poking yourself in the eye with a stick, they just stay home.

    The Dems and GOP want to put some of your friends and family in jail for an innocent, harmless activity. Someone you love smokes marijuana. Why are you voting for candidates who want to incarcerate your loved ones?

    I'm not sure about the CPs, but neither the Greens nor Libbies want to put your dope smoking son in law in prison. I'll be voting GP this November, as I did last election.

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