White House Refuses To Comment On Petition To Investigate Chris Dodd 765
malraid writes "The White House has issued a statement in which they refuse to comment on the petition to investigate Chris Dodd for bribery from the MPAA to pass legislation. The reason given: 'because it requests a specific law enforcement action.'"
Re:What? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Executive branch (Score:4, Informative)
it's almost like what they taught in civics class, just have to add a phrase before each sentence and another after:
those two phrases are "The mega-corporate bitches of" and "for the benefit of the mega-corporations"
1. The corporate bitches of Congress make the laws for the benefit of the mega-corporations
2. The corporate bitches of the executive branch enforce the laws for the benefit of the mega-corporations
3. The corporate bitches of the Supreme Court interpret the laws for the benefit of the mega-corporations
Let's revise the oath of office, "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the agenda of the mega-corporations, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the interests of all those mega corporations, so help me Mammon.
Campaign contributions are not bribes (Score:5, Informative)
Nobody will be prosecuted....too many people already say "If so so doesn't vote my way Im not gonna contribute to his campaign." OR "If you support my bill I will contribute to your campaign" the promises are vague and non-specific.
"...if the payments are made in return for an explicit promise or undertaking by the official to perform or not to perform an official act. In such situations the official asserts that his official conduct will be controlled by the terms of the promise or undertaking." McCormick v. United States, 500 U.S. 257 (1991)
On the other hand if Dodd had said "If you support SOPA I will give your campaign $50,000" that would be quid pro quo. A threat to withhold support is not bribery. There has to be an explicit offer or threat. Campaign contributions have a higher standard of proof for bribery allegations than say a private payment.
Re:Alright (Score:4, Informative)
Small nitpick here: Dodd is not an elected official anymore. So he doesn't have a congressional district. He USED to be, and when he was he fought very hard for the MPAA... and now he has a very well-paying job with them. Shocking, I know.
Re:the plutocracy sucks (Score:2, Informative)
hey, asshole:
we don't live in a fascist country
all you have demonstrated with your comment is that you are historically ignorant and have not the slightest fucking clue of what real fascism is like
Re:This is overblown nonsense (Score:4, Informative)
They should be indicted - every last one of them.
Being a elected official in the US is extremely lucrative with lots of 'gifts' and 'free' vacations from friends and supporters after they have finished serving their terms, highly paid jobs within industries they 'regulated', highly paid jobs with companies that got legislated overpriced no-bid contracts, highly paid lobbying jobs that take advantage of their access, and a rate of return on investments 60% higher than market average (and about 20% higher than average RoR with insider trading). Simply because the payoff is delayed doesn't mean that it isn't happening and because it is so well known about nobody ever has to actually make an agreement for the bribery because the politician takes the lead knowing that if they behave in a particular way that they are guaranteed a lucrative result.
One of the reasons that other countries look at the US with horror is how blatant and openly corrupt your government officials are. In Canada the governing party for over 40 years fell and was replaced over a scandal directing work to a company that supported the Liberal party. The total amount was under $2 million dollars over 8 years which is less than every single representative and senator directs to supporters each and every budget. Even the most ethical politician on the national stage is wildly corrupted and should be charged and imprisoned.
Re:Darn (Score:3, Informative)
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No. The petition asked for the wrong thing. (Score:5, Informative)
The correct request for a petition would be to impeach Dodd for high crimes and misdemeanors.
The impeachment process may be triggered by non-members. For example, when the Judicial Conference of the United States suggests a federal judge be impeached, a charge of what actions constitute grounds for impeachment may come from a special prosecutor, the President, a state or territorial legislature, grand jury, or by petition.
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hhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States#The_federal_impeachment_procedure
A high crime is one which seeks the overthrow of the country, which gives aid or comfort to its enemies, or which injures the country to the profit of an individual or group.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_crimes_and_misdemeanours [wikipedia.org]
Despite that he left office on 3 Jan 2011 and went on to head the MPAA in March 2011, and therefore was not in office, there is precedent for impeaching a government official after leaving office. That precedent is the 1876 case of General William Belknap, who was impeached by a unanimous vote of the House of Representatives shortly after he had resigned for allegedly having received money in return for post tradership appointments (bribery).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_W._Belknap [wikipedia.org]
Other precedents also exist. Feel free to consult a real lawyer before submitting the next petition so that a stronger case can be made and actually trigger action.
-- Terry
Re:Dying from lack of surprise... (Score:4, Informative)
And truly, the English language is and always has been set in stone, handed over by God himself to the early man.
Wait, no, that's not it: "it's" was the possessive of "it" - and the contradiction of "it is" was "'tis".
Re:Dying from lack of surprise... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Dying from lack of surprise... (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:Dying from lack of surprise... (Score:2, Informative)
Jefferson wasn't suggesting that people rise up every so often to keep their government on it's toes. He was replying to concern of the deaths during Shay's rebellion. He cited that these men had risen up because they were ignorant and uninformed of what was happening, and that on occasion, the government will have to kill rebels who rise up to do the country harm.... and that's acceptable, and a normal process.
Too many people who want to try to make a point with fake authority take things out of context using old quotes like this, and this one in particular was often seen at teabagger rallies. The people exhibiting them clearly didn't have the first clue what Jefferson was actually saying. For them to exhibit it, they were actually saying "I'm an ignorant rebel, please kill me."
Context is everything.
Re:Dying from lack of surprise... (Score:5, Informative)