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Are SOPA Sponsors Violating SOPA Rules? Not So Fast, Says Ars Technica 115

Posted by timothy
from the wash-your-mouth-out-with-sopa dept.
TheNextCorner writes "Remember how the Stop Online Piracy Act would make streaming of copyrighted material a felony? Many of these lawmakers actually stream copyrighted videos on their websites." However, that's not the whole story. according to a followup at Ars Technica to the tweeted claims about streaming and SOPA. From which: "The Electronic Frontier Foundation tweeted the post, and it was re-tweeted more than 100 times. So are the sponsors of SOPA hypocrites? We're not fans of SOPA, so we'd love to have this story check out. But we're also a news site, so we contacted James Grimmelmann, a copyright scholar at New York Law School, (and judging from his tweets, not a SOPA supporter) to get his expert opinion."
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Are SOPA Sponsors Violating SOPA Rules? Not So Fast, Says Ars Technica

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 19, 2011 @11:15AM (#38108482)
  • by zero.kalvin (1231372) on Saturday November 19, 2011 @11:23AM (#38108514)
    With a quick search, there is this : http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/communications/ASCAP.html [umkc.edu] I think it is ridiculous...
  • by skr95062 (2046934) on Saturday November 19, 2011 @11:27AM (#38108530)

    I have been so opposed to SOPA due to the shift in who has to scan and check.
    The content companies got what they wanted with the DMCA.
    They then found out it was to much of a problem for them to check.
    Bad enough they did not know what others inside the same content holder were doing. (VIACOM v GOOGLE)
    Now they want to shift the responsibility over to the internet operators, eliminate safe harbor.
    In addition this gives the government even broader powers to shut down "infringing" internet sites, remove or change DNS.
    Some of these are legal in the country that the sites operate in.
    The US/Content companies are yet again trying impose there will on the rest of the world.
    Now several prominent members of congress have come out against it.
    This includes the former speaker of the house, Nancy Pelosi.
    Hopefully enough of them will realize this is bullshit and come to there senses.

    I doubt it, but there is always hope.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 19, 2011 @11:32AM (#38108564)

    The same people who sued to stop the Camp Fire Girls from singing "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" in the woods around a fire as a "public performance" will be making accusations and shutting down web sites en mass. Because all it takes is for a site to be a suspected offender.

    Citation please. That song was written in it's modern form in 1881.

    In reference to the Girl Scouts, a source is here: http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/communications/ASCAP.html [umkc.edu]

    They cite ASCAP (American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers) as the perpetrators. A different source describes the particulars of how they decide who and what infringes: http://woodpecker.com/writing/essays/royalty-politics.html [woodpecker.com], which specifically says ASCAP has more than 80 arrangements of "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" under copyright. So the song is public domain, but if you infringe upon their arrangement, they are going to get you.

    Note on sources: more reliable sources may be available, this is all I had time to find.

  • by JoeMerchant (803320) on Saturday November 19, 2011 @11:52AM (#38108680)

    Ever notice that major restaurant chains don't sing the traditional "Happy Birthday to You!" [snopes.com]?

    AOL Time Warner currently collects about $2M per year in royalties on "Happy Birthday to You", originally popularized more than 80 years ago.

    and, won't the world be such a better place when these rights are more vigorously protected? cough, gag

  • by BigSlowTarget (325940) on Saturday November 19, 2011 @11:56AM (#38108710) Journal

    Expect Congress to exempt themselves from SOPA, just as they did with insider trading laws. In fact if they realize they could be charged for streaming those videos they may just exempt themselves from having to pay to use copy-written material for political uses at all. Certainly enough of them have been caught using material without the author's permission to make them think about it and this would solve that little issue.

  • Re:I don't has list (Score:4, Informative)

    by SuricouRaven (1897204) on Saturday November 19, 2011 @12:59PM (#38109122)
    Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont) and Lamar Smith (R-Texas) are the big ones - the sponsors of the two bills. There are lots of co-sponsors though, 61 in total between house and senate.
  • Re:I don't has list (Score:5, Informative)

    by Bratmon (1649855) on Saturday November 19, 2011 @01:10PM (#38109188)
  • by hairyfeet (841228) <bassbeast1968@NOsPAM.gmail.com> on Sunday November 20, 2011 @01:11AM (#38114018) Journal

    Actually I've toured the south a few times myself and known several indie bands and most of us put our stuff on P2P, thanks anyway. you know why? Because fans will STILL happily buy your CDs at the shows, along with the T-Shirts, caps, mugs, keyrings, mousepads (those were my idea BTW) and anything else to help out the band because guess what? they are FANS and want to see you get ahead.

    BTW I probably shouldn't share this trick, as we were raking in the cash with it, but what the fuck, sharing is caring right? Indie guys, want to make a fuckton of money and sell out your swag? The magic word is "raffle". We would go to a local pawnshop in whatever town we were at, but a cool cheap guitar or bass, me or the guitarist would play it for 3 or 4 songs and at the end of the show we would all sign it and anybody who bought a piece of swag had their name in the drawing for the instrument.

    Not only did audiences eat it up but we ended up with several hardcore fans that showed up at nearly every gig simply because they won something that made them feel closer to the band. We'd always let them sit with the wives and GFs and they were happy to hang up posters or post on FB or anything else that got out the word, simply because it made them feel like a winner.

    It works, its cheap, makes you a hell of a lot more than the guitar costs, and creates really loyal long lasting fans. Last gig I played even though i wasn't with that band anymore and hadn't been in 5 years i had a guy show up and bring nearly 30 friends, all of whom bought swag, simply because 'hey man I still have that bass i won in Memphis, remember me?" so he and his buds got to hang out with the wives and GFs while we played and we had a beer afterward. Its a great way to get long term fans

    . I hereby release this to the world as GPL, if you use the idea just give the old hairyfeet a little credit now and then, kay? Who knows one day i might be your opening act, or you may be mine. peace fellow bass players and never forget to show the ladies we bass players are ALWAYS good with our fingers!

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