Facebook, Zuckerberg Sued For $1 Billion Over Intifada Page 350
An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt from ZDNet: "Larry Klayman, the founder of Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch, has filed a lawsuit against Facebook and its CEO Mark Zuckerberg for their role in furthering a 'radical' Facebook Page called 'Third Palestinian Intifada,' which openly advocated another uprising against the citizens of Israel. The complaint reserves the right to be amended into a class action suit and prays for compensatory and punitive damages in excess of $1 billion. ... As a quick refresher, Facebook originally said it would not remove the page but would monitor it instead. The company later pulled the page after discussions degraded into violence and hatred."
Welcome Back... (Score:1, Interesting)
As usual, this is my annual first post to the first story after the April Fools Day Denial of Service day on Slashdot. And boy do we have a good one tonight....
Where's the dropdown box to lower the number in the story to something more reasonable than a billion?
Facebook had it right. When the page was new there was no problem with it. When it devolved into hate speech by both sides, it was pulled. All's well, nothing to see here.
Re:Fail (Score:3, Interesting)
It's an attempt to apply Israeli values to the American Facebook site and that's just not going to stick in an American court, and an Israeli court has no nexus to force Facebook to care about its result. They should be happy the page was pulled and go home.
Re:Welcome Back... (Score:4, Interesting)
Cool, so you're saying that so long as people aren't on your side it's ok to commit war crimes?
Maybe talk to the Jews who survived auschwitz about that one. Tell them that it's ok their families were gassed because the Jews were on the wrong side of WWII. Maybe tell the families that survived occupied France that it was just to kill off dissidents because France sided with the allies.
Tell the families of Vietnam that their agent orange babies are cool because they sided with the USSR.
It's easy to shrug off war crimes as "necessary" when you're siding with the ones committing the war crimes. War crimes are war crimes, there's no way to dodge the issue. No matter what an aggressor does it's never ok to commit war crimes.
Re:Welcome Back... (Score:2, Interesting)
Arabs in Israel enjoy more civil rights and a higher standard of living than the Arabs living in West Bank and Gaza.
No sh*t, few people in the world live as poorly as those who live in Israel's gutters. The ones you let vote are a minority to those of your specific religion that you've imported from around the world. Even refusing to extradite wanted criminals of Jewish decent who manages to make it 'home'.
If Isreal gave up the "if you're Jewish you're a citizen", and started repatriating Palestinians it might just gain a little credibility. Instead, you'all are locked in a police state mentality. You just can't 'store' the Palestinians in a ghetto, they get pissy and angry, would you if you were in their place? Most of the were born there. It's like a society of angry kids you've got locked in your basement. Maybe there is some way you can come up with a final solution. You've got walls, all you're missing are some ovens.
Re:Fail (Score:1, Interesting)
"You DO realize they are a first world country, with an incredible military, right?"
Wonder if you realize this incredible military is supported by yearly hand-outs from the US...
Umm no, mass murder isn't the answer. (Score:4, Interesting)
The Six Day War doesn't matte now. The old rhetoric about driving the Jews into the sea probably doesn't matter either. I think thus far the problem has been :
(a) The Palestinians have never had a really credible peace directed leader.
(b) Israel only rarely has leaders who credibly want peace.
If even a significant minority of the Palestinians were following some strong Imam who preached peace, well that'd likely inspire the Israelis to elect someone sane. Instead : The PLO/PA's leadership focusses more upon their own bank accounts. Hamas' are a bunch of religious psychopaths. Israel's right wing are equally psychopathic. And Israel's moderate politicians cannot retain power without acquiescing to the right.
The wall is helping though.
Re:Welcome Back... (Score:2, Interesting)
Fair enough that there are no good guys but if we're going to count every feud back to the dawn of civilization then most of the world would be at war. For example, France and Germany did not just one but two world wars last century, and yet now they're both EU members with open borders, common currency and whatnot. At some point you need to leave the past behind you and accept that it happened, but that you don't need to get even anymore. Particularly if that "getting even" is dealing twice as much as you got, then it'll never end. Somebody have to be less bad than the one before them, then maybe hopefully over time things can heal. Yet every time there's a period of relative peace and stability, someone is ready to deal new, fresh scars...
Personally I decided not long after both Israel accused Norway of being anti-semitic because of some writings and the Arab countries accused us of being anti-muslim because of the Muhammad caricatures. They're both anti-freedom of speech and anti-freedom of press. As far as I am concerned, I wouldn't mind at all if the entire Middle East disappeared off the face of the earth. Or at least got their head out of the dark ages.
Re:Welcome Back... (Score:5, Interesting)
Would you?
Now lets look at history and revise the above scenario.
In this case Isreal had experienced over 120 acts of terror against it in the preceding 18 months by the new PLO and had seen major troop build ups and movements by both Syria and Egypt.
SO back to my original scenario, you see someone lurking outside your home with a gun, rapping on the windows and breaking into your car in the driveway. Do you wait until they enter the house and kidnap your family? Or do you act first?
I know what I would I do.....
Facebook did it to themselves... (Score:4, Interesting)
When they said they would not pull it, but would monitor it, they opened themselves up for litigation. This is the sort of thing that's allowed common carriers at least the illusion of immunity from persecution over what goes through their networks. As soon as Facebook said they would monitor it, that was a statement that they are not a common carrier. By "monitoring" it, they assumed responsibility for it.
Bad move on their part, no matter what you might think of the subject.